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Post by Dave the Dave on Feb 22, 2023 23:30:06 GMT -5
Her reign and skills are no good but like, this is major hyperbole.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 22, 2023 23:33:01 GMT -5
Her reign and skills are no good but like, this is major hyperbole. Still think she works better than people give her credit for She's not the best worker in the division but she's improved from where she started I remember watching Chyna and Sable matches back in the day and... Jade's better than those two, and it helps because she has a star presence, she just has to be decent in ring to pull it off, but she does need to lose soon. I'm shocked they've held off to have Statlander dethrone her... shows they love Statlander and wanna give her a moment but don't wanna wait too much longer tbh.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 22, 2023 23:46:50 GMT -5
I was a big fan of her early on and she seemed to be improving. But the reign has just become so redundant with no real challengers or stories, and her work has seemed to plateau.
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Post by Some Guy on Feb 22, 2023 23:48:33 GMT -5
I think Jade is fine in the ring and works well with random people, but the lack of giving her consistent good opponents is annoying. With the sheer amount of Joshi women that are signed and occasionally work for the company, not a single one could have faced Jade even once in this 13 month reign? Not a single interaction with anyone in the main women's title feuds ala Hayter, Toni or Britt? No matches against Mercedes Martinez or Serena?
It's just the most needlessly constrained title reign humanly possible. Though this speaks to the complete lack of creative or world building within the women's booking in general. Everyone is just isolated to their own corners and that's just that.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 23, 2023 0:22:29 GMT -5
Jade is stuck in a weird booking circle. TK doesn’t want her to lose, so none of the other women can get the TBS Title and make the division more interesting.
But it’s like he thinks if she starts beating the upper tier women they’ll be a backlash, so she’s spent most of her steak beating lower card women or flat out jobbers. Which means there’s no tension in her matches because you never buy she’ll lose. But also her streak doesn’t feel like a big deal since none of the upper tier women in storyline seem to care about trying to beat her.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 23, 2023 0:28:47 GMT -5
In AEW, yeah.
Of all-time? Not even top 10.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 23, 2023 0:31:25 GMT -5
In AEW, yeah. Of all-time? Not even top 10. I'm gonna even argue that in AEW the whole Sammy/Scorpio TNT title chaos was worse, and actively did hurt that belt for a little bit.
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Post by ppl591 on Feb 23, 2023 0:40:34 GMT -5
It's not the absolute worst. But it's definitely on that list with all thw previously mentioned reigns. It may not be worse than all of them but it's getting in the conversation.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Feb 23, 2023 2:48:01 GMT -5
No notable moments? Hey, remember when Bow Wow interrupted her promo for..uh..oh right that went literally nowhere and was completely forgotten about.
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Post by tuckerguy on Feb 23, 2023 3:32:32 GMT -5
There have been many worse title reigns than Jade's
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Post by Ryushinku on Feb 23, 2023 3:49:11 GMT -5
There definitely have been. Sadly, quite a lot.
That still doesn't make Jade's reign a good one. It's a complete vanity belt, for someone that they ran out of any ideas for beyond "Uh, Jade wins", and that has failed to elevate anyone to a worthwhile level after feuding with her.
And that exists in this separate universe all by herself, as the winningest winning winner that never even pays the slightest attention to the world title in her division.
They should've bitten the bullet and had her lose a long time ago.
Jade's young and green, no pun, and has a promising ceiling of potential. But this reign long ago passed the point of actual usefulness.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 23, 2023 3:50:20 GMT -5
No notable moments? Hey, remember when Bow Wow interrupted her promo for..uh..oh right that went literally nowhere and was completely forgotten about. I mean I think we all agreed that was for the best lol But her entire feud with Nyla was memorable and fun, Nyla's "TBS Champion" graphic for the PPV still kills me
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Post by tuckerguy on Feb 23, 2023 5:01:24 GMT -5
Her reign and skills are no good but like, this is major hyperbole. Still think she works better than people give her credit for She's not the best worker in the division but she's improved from where she started I remember watching Chyna and Sable matches back in the day and... Jade's better than those two, and it helps because she has a star presence, she just has to be decent in ring to pull it off, but she does need to lose soon. I'm shocked they've held off to have Statlander dethrone her... shows they love Statlander and wanna give her a moment but don't wanna wait too much longer tbh. How do we really know that they're waiting for Stalander to come back? We're gonna be waiting a long time if that's the case.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 23, 2023 5:28:40 GMT -5
Still think she works better than people give her credit for She's not the best worker in the division but she's improved from where she started I remember watching Chyna and Sable matches back in the day and... Jade's better than those two, and it helps because she has a star presence, she just has to be decent in ring to pull it off, but she does need to lose soon. I'm shocked they've held off to have Statlander dethrone her... shows they love Statlander and wanna give her a moment but don't wanna wait too much longer tbh. How do we really know that they're waiting for Stalander to come back? We're gonna be waiting a long time if that's the case. Idk actually, she got hurt back in August, that makes it almost six months Depending on how you heal from that injury, she should be close to returning, but the reason I say they're holding off is the initial plan was for Kris to dethrone her at Arthur Ashe, and since she's gone down, Jade's just continued her streak I feel like they could have Jade lose it to someone, like Willow for example, but the way they've stationed Jade, it's been well, six months since Statlander got hurt, and Jade still has the belt... it really feels like they've stalled for her.
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Post by tuckerguy on Feb 23, 2023 5:32:22 GMT -5
How do we really know that they're waiting for Stalander to come back? We're gonna be waiting a long time if that's the case. Idk actually, she got hurt back in August, that makes it almost six months Depending on how you heal from that injury, she should be close to returning, but the reason I say they're holding off is the initial plan was for Kris to dethrone her at Arthur Ashe, and since she's gone down, Jade's just continued her streak I feel like they could have Jade lose it to someone, like Willow for example, but the way they've stationed Jade, it's been well, six months since Statlander got hurt, and Jade still has the belt... it really feels like they've stalled for her. I feel you. I thought Red Velvet had somewhat of a chance. I think whoever takes it off of her is a mystery. I think if they waited until Statlander came back it would be too long.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 23, 2023 5:34:43 GMT -5
Idk actually, she got hurt back in August, that makes it almost six months Depending on how you heal from that injury, she should be close to returning, but the reason I say they're holding off is the initial plan was for Kris to dethrone her at Arthur Ashe, and since she's gone down, Jade's just continued her streak I feel like they could have Jade lose it to someone, like Willow for example, but the way they've stationed Jade, it's been well, six months since Statlander got hurt, and Jade still has the belt... it really feels like they've stalled for her. I feel you. I thought Red Velvet had somewhat of a chance. I think whoever takes it off of her is a mystery. I think if they waited until Statlander came back it would be too long. It depends on when Stats back, if she's out another two months, yeah, pull the plug and give it to someone like Willow or Emi Sakura who has really busted her ass the last few weeks to show you she can have a great run with the belt I feel like they waited till Revolution to see if Kris could come back but we're a week out to the PPV and it's a question if Jade will even be on it right now so... either we see a surprise return next week or Jade might need to start a story where it all finally catches up to her.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 23, 2023 5:44:47 GMT -5
Idk actually, she got hurt back in August, that makes it almost six months Depending on how you heal from that injury, she should be close to returning, but the reason I say they're holding off is the initial plan was for Kris to dethrone her at Arthur Ashe, and since she's gone down, Jade's just continued her streak I feel like they could have Jade lose it to someone, like Willow for example, but the way they've stationed Jade, it's been well, six months since Statlander got hurt, and Jade still has the belt... it really feels like they've stalled for her. I feel you. I thought Red Velvet had somewhat of a chance. I think whoever takes it off of her is a mystery. I think if they waited until Statlander came back it would be too long. Red Velvet is someone I think has really suffered, started off well as Jade's main rival coming in, that dragged a bit, then she turned and joined her as a lackey instead of being on her own for... reasons. Then she turned face again after a couple of weeks of foreshadowing and proceeds to lose so she's gone from rival to henchman to loser over this. Obviously she could come back but Red Velvet hs looked like crap and made no sense for ages. As for Jade's title, if we're not getting Kris, give it to Willow, an organically very over babyface, character makes a great contrast to Jade, she's the perfect contender.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 23, 2023 5:47:29 GMT -5
I feel you. I thought Red Velvet had somewhat of a chance. I think whoever takes it off of her is a mystery. I think if they waited until Statlander came back it would be too long. Red Velvet is someone I think has really suffered, started off well as Jade's main rival coming in, that dragged a bit, then she turned and joined her as a lackey instead of being on her own for... reasons. Then she turned face again after a couple of weeks of foreshadowing and proceeds to lose so she's gone from rival to henchman to loser over this. Obviously she could come back but Red Velvet hs looked like crap and made no sense for ages. As for Jade's title, if we're not getting Kris, give it to Willow, an organically very over babyface, character makes a great contrast to Jade, she's the perfect contender. An injury also killed Velvet's momentum in the Baddies. She's come back looking great but could use a refresh I'd keep her and Kiera as a team tbh, they work well together, and I would also have them help whoever dethrones Jade, offset Leila's interference. Idk what the inevitable plan is, the top feud has a lot of women tangled in it, but my picks would be Willow, Emi, or if they come back soon either one of Riho or Deeb
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 23, 2023 6:11:18 GMT -5
Red Velvet is someone I think has really suffered, started off well as Jade's main rival coming in, that dragged a bit, then she turned and joined her as a lackey instead of being on her own for... reasons. Then she turned face again after a couple of weeks of foreshadowing and proceeds to lose so she's gone from rival to henchman to loser over this. Obviously she could come back but Red Velvet hs looked like crap and made no sense for ages. As for Jade's title, if we're not getting Kris, give it to Willow, an organically very over babyface, character makes a great contrast to Jade, she's the perfect contender. An injury also killed Velvet's momentum in the Baddies. She's come back looking great but could use a refresh I'd keep her and Kiera as a team tbh, they work well together, and I would also have them help whoever dethrones Jade, offset Leila's interference. Idk what the inevitable plan is, the top feud has a lot of women tangled in it, but my picks would be Willow, Emi, or if they come back soon either one of Riho or Deeb The Baddies storyline seems really underdeveloped, they could have had a lot more with Leila coming in as an outsider Jade didn't even want, gradually becoming the favoured one, leading to sidelining Keira which drives a wedge with Velvet leading to the split. They had the bare bones but for as long as this has been going on, rushed through the beats of it, hell you could use it to turn Jade face in the end, having Leila turn on her after and taking the belt after isolating Jade.
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Post by clifford on Feb 23, 2023 6:21:31 GMT -5
All I know is that I desperately want whoever does beat her for the title to go right up to her kid in the audience and full on gloat on front of them lol
I love seeing kids ringside pop for their parents in the ring but when Jade's kid gets more Dynamite screen time in the last year than Emi Sakura has I start to get salty.
Anyway, Jade's reign has got to be least epic 'epic' title reign in a while. It doesn't even feel like the TBS title is an actual title, it's just a prop that Jade has, not unlike MJF and the Dynamite Diamond ring.
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