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Post by stephen90 on Apr 16, 2023 14:34:46 GMT -5
Had the Benoit Tragdy never happened! Would he have lived long after that? Given his health and having apperantly alzheimer or brain damage from all those head injures of over the Years. Do you think he would still around these days? Or would he have passed by 2009 or 2010. Supposedly according to Sandra (Nancy's sister) during the autopsy they found Benoit heart to be in such bad shape that they estimated he had a year left in his life.
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Post by chrom on Apr 16, 2023 17:37:59 GMT -5
Had the Benoit Tragdy never happened! Would he have lived long after that? Given his health and having apperantly alzheimer or brain damage from all those head injures of over the Years. Do you think he would still around these days? Or would he have passed by 2009 or 2010. Supposedly according to Sandra (Nancy's sister) during the autopsy they found Benoit heart to be in such bad shape that they estimated he had a year left on his life. Wasn't it compared to be the size of what a horse's heart should be?
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Post by stephen90 on Apr 16, 2023 20:08:56 GMT -5
Supposedly according to Sandra (Nancy's sister) during the autopsy they found Benoit heart to be in such bad shape that they estimated he had a year left on his life. Wasn't it compared to be the size of what a horse's heart should be? Here's what Sandra said about Beniot's heart www.pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_71625.shtmlYes, my brother-in-law had concussions, he hit his head for a living and I understand that. But way beyond that, he had a very serious drug and steroid problem. Unfortunately, a lot of athletes still do to this day. It’s spiraling out of control. The medical examiner told us after the autopsy that Chris was on his way to death within 10 months. His heart was huge, about 3 times normal size, and it was ready to blow up at any moment.”
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Post by Andee9001 on Apr 16, 2023 21:50:11 GMT -5
Wasn't it compared to be the size of what a horse's heart should be? Here's what Sandra said about Beniot's heart www.pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_71625.shtmlYes, my brother-in-law had concussions, he hit his head for a living and I understand that. But way beyond that, he had a very serious drug and steroid problem. Unfortunately, a lot of athletes still do to this day. It’s spiraling out of control. The medical examiner told us after the autopsy that Chris was on his way to death within 10 months. His heart was huge, about 3 times normal size, and it was ready to blow up at any moment.”Considering he was getting 3 months worth of steroids every month from his doctor yeah it's not really surprising how messed up his heart would have been.
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Post by tirtefaa on Apr 17, 2023 2:22:29 GMT -5
If he had, I feel like a lot of lives/careers would've been shortened. As horrific as that weekend was, it changed things for the better. Suddenly, everyone knew what CTE was and concussion protocols became a thing. Lives were saved in the long run. I'm sorry, I just cannot accept that. Two innocent lives for the potential deaths of others? Here's the thing, WWE chose to make those protocol changes. They had the ability to do so regardless of Benoit's actions. Did it happen due to the backlash from Benoit? Absolutely. No question. But this isn't a black and white issue. We can still get to the same conclusion without a loss of life. And when it comes to how the media covered it, they were more focused on roid rage. It felt as though the backlash WWE were most focused on was the truth of what was happening with CTE, which was far more mainstream with what was happening with the NFL. And there's absolutely no way WWE would be able to dodge the scrutiny since it was one of their own former wrestlers heading the study. You could easily point to a ton of other dead wrestlers before Benoit to show the massive problems with the industry. There's no way it would have been avoided. Like, if there was literally no CTE studies on Benoit's brain (which almost didn't happen without CLF's intervention), then the media chalk it up to roid rage because that's all they know, WWE deny anything, and the story eventually loses interest. WWE goes back to what they were doing.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 17, 2023 6:59:25 GMT -5
Man, what a completely differently wrestling world and legacy would we have if that heart attack came before that weekend. If he had, I feel like a lot of lives/careers would've been shortened. As horrific as that weekend was, it changed things for the better. Suddenly, everyone knew what CTE was and concussion protocols became a thing. Lives were saved in the long run. Not just that, but the wellness policy (even if the drug testing is still lax) also uncovered that heart defect that MVP had.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Apr 17, 2023 8:34:47 GMT -5
My grandmother had dementia that lasted a decade, and she was old.
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Post by bluebeach25 on Apr 17, 2023 8:47:14 GMT -5
My grandmother had dementia that lasted a decade, and she was old. dementia alone doesn't kill you actually. I know some people that had it for like almost 20 Years and still died at the age of 98 or 102.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Apr 17, 2023 13:02:34 GMT -5
If he had, I feel like a lot of lives/careers would've been shortened. As horrific as that weekend was, it changed things for the better. Suddenly, everyone knew what CTE was and concussion protocols became a thing. Lives were saved in the long run. I'm sorry, I just cannot accept that. Two innocent lives for the potential deaths of others? Here's the thing, WWE chose to make those protocol changes. They had the ability to do so regardless of Benoit's actions. Did it happen due to the backlash from Benoit? Absolutely. No question. But this isn't a black and white issue. We can still get to the same conclusion without a loss of life. And when it comes to how the media covered it, they were more focused on roid rage. It felt as though the backlash WWE were most focused on was the truth of what was happening with CTE, which was far more mainstream with what was happening with the NFL. And there's absolutely no way WWE would be able to dodge the scrutiny since it was one of their own former wrestlers heading the study. You could easily point to a ton of other dead wrestlers before Benoit to show the massive problems with the industry. There's no way it would have been avoided. Like, if there was literally no CTE studies on Benoit's brain (which almost didn't happen without CLF's intervention), then the media chalk it up to roid rage because that's all they know, WWE deny anything, and the story eventually loses interest. WWE goes back to what they were doing. Yeah, I don't disagree with what you're saying here and no, I'm not saying it's OK that Nancy and Daniel Benoit died for the "greater good", as it were. Absolutely not, in a just world, they're still alive and well. What I'm saying is, the incident sped up a lot of changes that needed to happen, both in wrestling and in other sports. It's horrible it happened the way it did, but there's at least small comfort to be taken out of it. Whereas, if Benoit collapsed in a parking lot like Warrior, the discussion would've been about steroids and how awful it was we lost him too soon. At least if any good could come out of the worst weekend in wrestling history, it's that it created a positive change.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Apr 17, 2023 13:07:33 GMT -5
My grandmother had dementia that lasted a decade, and she was old. dementia alone doesn't kill you actually. I know some people that had it for like almost 20 Years and still died at the age of 98 or 102. Yep. I work in a nursing home and our turnover for long-term patients is not as quick as some would expect, especially dementia and Alzheimer's patients.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 17, 2023 18:45:12 GMT -5
Another dark anecdote is Vicky's story about how she would come home to find that Benoit had let himself in and was in her and Eddie's bedroom sobbing on Eddie's pillow. I know everyone processes grief differently but I find that to be off, it's overstepping boundaries for one thing. It sounds like he was getting worse and worse at picking up on social cues toward the end. I just think back to how Chavo explained how Chris dealt with Eddie's death and even how Jericho talked about it and both were, I dunno if creeped out is the right word, but they were unnerved by how hard Eddie's death hit Chris. Not in the moment but months and even a year later. Hell there's a story from Hurricane when he was rehabbing from neck surgery that Benoit called him bawling his eyes out because he was so touched that Daniel said to take care of Hurricane during his nightly prayers. Hurricane was touched but was confused by Benoit's reaction I heard somewhere he took to driving around with an Eddie action figure in the passenger seat. It’s also worth noting it wasn’t just Eddie, Biff Wellington and Johnny Grunge also hit him extremely hard.
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Post by BorneAgain on Apr 17, 2023 19:01:26 GMT -5
As noted Dynamite may have only lasted as long as he did because his back injuries put in him into retirement early and essentially curbed the steroid use head bumps much earlier than what would have happened otherwise. I'm convinced a combination of that and sheer bitter spite essentially got him across the finish line to age 60 before he passed.
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Post by XIII on Apr 17, 2023 22:06:46 GMT -5
I just think back to how Chavo explained how Chris dealt with Eddie's death and even how Jericho talked about it and both were, I dunno if creeped out is the right word, but they were unnerved by how hard Eddie's death hit Chris. Not in the moment but months and even a year later. Hell there's a story from Hurricane when he was rehabbing from neck surgery that Benoit called him bawling his eyes out because he was so touched that Daniel said to take care of Hurricane during his nightly prayers. Hurricane was touched but was confused by Benoit's reaction I heard somewhere he took to driving around with an Eddie action figure in the passenger seat. It’s also worth noting it wasn’t just Eddie, Biff Wellington and Johnny Grunge also hit him extremely hard. Johnny Grunge was the final straw because he was the dude that Nancy would call to come get get Chris when he was being an asshole/abusive. Apparently at least once Grunge came and got Benoit and put him in a hotel room for a few days to calm him down.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Apr 18, 2023 0:46:57 GMT -5
I heard somewhere he took to driving around with an Eddie action figure in the passenger seat. It’s also worth noting it wasn’t just Eddie, Biff Wellington and Johnny Grunge also hit him extremely hard. Johnny Grunge was the final straw because he was the dude that Nancy would call to come get get Chris when he was being an asshole/abusive. Apparently at least once Grunge came and got Benoit and put him in a hotel room for a few days to calm him down. I had no idea Benoit and Grunge were so close.
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Post by stephen90 on Apr 18, 2023 12:53:27 GMT -5
Johnny Grunge was the final straw because he was the dude that Nancy would call to come get get Chris when he was being an asshole/abusive. Apparently at least once Grunge came and got Benoit and put him in a hotel room for a few days to calm him down. I had no idea Benoit and Grunge were so close. He really leaned on Grunge after Eddie's death. Sadly Grunge died two months after Eddie.
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