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Post by wakko on May 9, 2023 12:55:39 GMT -5
I need a good nap during wrestling. Nothing against Natalya, but she bores me anymore.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on May 9, 2023 13:23:21 GMT -5
I really don't understand why it always has to Natalya who always gets these annual pushes. Like would it had really have killed them to give this spot to someone like Tegan Nox? Not that she's a credible threat but at least it would be different and you could build her up over the upcoming weeks. It's not li like Zelina had been built up either as her whole reasoning was "Hey I'm Puerto Rican and this show coming up is in Puerto Rico therefore I think I should get a title shot". I mean... everyone is filler until the inevitable Rhea vs Becky feud. Yup When you look at how supposedly stacked Raws division is with women...alot of them are just bodies for Rhea. Other than Becky everyone else is fodder untill Rhea gets to her. It is why I said SD while not having quite the depth (as in the ammount of women) is much stronger as far as quality goes especially at the top of their womens division. I like the SD roster a little better too due to Asuka, Iyo/Dakota, and Isla/Alba. However they have the same problem that Raw has in that they don't have many options for title challengers due to them not building enough women up over the last year and feeding so many women to Bianca. As a result with both shows they're killing time until Summerslam and having a very difficult time in doing so until they can do the big money matches with their long time big stars (Becky on Raw, Charlotte on Smackdown).
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 9, 2023 14:03:04 GMT -5
Personally, I will gladly take a random yearly Natty push over the random yearly Tamina push...
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Post by XIII on May 9, 2023 15:14:47 GMT -5
I’m sure that Nattie is a great person and it’s always cool when a good person gets rewarded but there’s almost no reason for her to be on tv and getting title matches after being on the roster for like 10+ years. Put her in a tag team with an up and comer or have her train in NXT but this ain’t it.
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Post by tirtefaa on May 9, 2023 20:51:36 GMT -5
I need a good nap during wrestling. Nothing against Natalya, but she bores me anymore. It's the problem with modern WWE honestly. You have people who are here for decades that while talented, they can't always be front and center, so they just exist with nothing happening for months, then all the sudden they're supposed to be important again. It's even worse for the women since there were long stretches where the division was treated as an afterthought. It's too bad some of these people don't mix it up by going to a different company for a couple years. A change of scenery does wonders most of the time.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 9, 2023 21:06:23 GMT -5
I need a good nap during wrestling. Nothing against Natalya, but she bores me anymore. It's the problem with modern WWE honestly. You have people who are here for decades that while talented, they can't always be front and center, so they just exist with nothing happening for months, then all the sudden they're supposed to be important again. It's even worse for the women since there were long stretches where the division was treated as an afterthought. It's too bad some of these people don't mix it up by going to a different company for a couple years. A change of scenery does wonders most of the time. Also a few times the Women's division ends up getting completely buried by like Sasha and Bayley for like an entire year... and never really given a chance to recover.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 9, 2023 21:14:10 GMT -5
I get why
I GET it
But I can't think of any reason to give a single shit about Natalya in 2023
She has been the exact same character for 12 years, much like Ziggler. She is solid, the match will be fine, but the feud leading up to it and the fact it's happening feels completely second fiddle to Becky/Trish and it's pretty blatant lol
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Post by asuka007 on May 9, 2023 21:14:42 GMT -5
How I would do it, is pick someone new. Then build them up on TV. Then let them have a good match with Rhea. They can lose, but they still come out of it feeling elevated regardless
That literally just happened with Iyo FFS.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 21:24:07 GMT -5
How I would do it, is pick someone new. Then build them up on TV. Then let them have a good match with Rhea. They can lose, but they still come out of it feeling elevated regardless That literally just happened with Iyo FFS. It would have been a great time to debut Zoey against Rhea and give them about 10 min with Zoey losing....and it should not matter she lost as much as it should matter she held her own on her debut with the champ would be the story.
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Post by asuka007 on May 9, 2023 21:40:11 GMT -5
How I would do it, is pick someone new. Then build them up on TV. Then let them have a good match with Rhea. They can lose, but they still come out of it feeling elevated regardless That literally just happened with Iyo FFS. It would have been a great time to debut Zoey against Rhea and give them about 10 min with Zoey losing....and it should not matter she lost as much as it should matter she held her own on her debut with the champ would be the story. Zoey is a good choice. or even Candice perhaps so MR fans can see what she’s really capable of.
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Post by Instant Classic on May 9, 2023 21:44:52 GMT -5
Natalya is the female Dolph Ziggler. She’s a good hand but I don’t care to ever see wrestle again.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 21:48:59 GMT -5
It would have been a great time to debut Zoey against Rhea and give them about 10 min with Zoey losing....and it should not matter she lost as much as it should matter she held her own on her debut with the champ would be the story. Zoey is a good choice. or even Candice perhaps so MR fans can see what she’s really capable of. Candice is great at playing the resiliant underdog and if people needed to know how good she is just replay the match against Io from Takeover to the live audience because she still has yet to have a better match in her entire WWE run and is the only one where she got to really show out. Which is why IMO it should have been Candice against Rhea at night of champions and have that lead into a The Way Vs Judgment Day feud.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 10, 2023 2:21:59 GMT -5
I remember when Nattie got called up to the main roster female talents could be expected to last about five years and that be considered a good run.
Her run is now 15 years and counting.
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Post by DSR on May 10, 2023 4:02:19 GMT -5
I remember when Nattie got called up to the main roster female talents could be expected to last about five years and that be considered a good run. Her run is now 15 years and counting. On one hand, I'm glad women can actually have lengthy runs like this instead of being tossed aside because the blinking chip in their hand indicates they're too old to be useful to society at 30. On the other hand, over Nattie's 15 years in WWE, her character development has consisted of wearing cat ears occasionally and a brief flatulence problem. If we're willing to count Total Divas stuff, you can add that her husband is more interested in wrestling tapes than sex with her. Um...yeah.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 10, 2023 4:40:46 GMT -5
On the other hand, over Nattie's 15 years in WWE, her character development has consisted of wearing cat ears occasionally and a brief flatulence problem. If we're willing to count Total Divas stuff, you can add that her husband is more interested in wrestling tapes than sex with her. I vaguely remember her being in a stable with Khali, Hornswoggle, and maybe someone else. I didn't imagine that, did I?
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 10, 2023 5:55:12 GMT -5
It's the problem with modern WWE honestly. You have people who are here for decades that while talented, they can't always be front and center, so they just exist with nothing happening for months, then all the sudden they're supposed to be important again. It's even worse for the women since there were long stretches where the division was treated as an afterthought. It's too bad some of these people don't mix it up by going to a different company for a couple years. A change of scenery does wonders most of the time. Also a few times the Women's division ends up getting completely buried by like Sasha and Bayley for like an entire year... and never really given a chance to recover. As great as the Horsewomen have been for wrestling, specifically WWE, they spent roughly 5 years booking them and only them to really matter. What exactly did people expect was going to happen when inevitably member(s) either needed a break, had kids, or left the company?
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 10, 2023 5:56:54 GMT -5
I remember when Nattie got called up to the main roster female talents could be expected to last about five years and that be considered a good run. Her run is now 15 years and counting. On one hand, I'm glad women can actually have lengthy runs like this instead of being tossed aside because the blinking chip in their hand indicates they're too old to be useful to society at 30. On the other hand, over Nattie's 15 years in WWE, her character development has consisted of wearing cat ears occasionally and a brief flatulence problem. If we're willing to count Total Divas stuff, you can add that her husband is more interested in wrestling tapes than sex with her. Um...yeah. As I said earlier: Her character for about the last decade has been a) entitled heel vet or b) respected face vet with the added trait of cosplaying as her dad
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Post by Gerard Gerard on May 10, 2023 6:19:47 GMT -5
On one hand, I'm glad women can actually have lengthy runs like this instead of being tossed aside because the blinking chip in their hand indicates they're too old to be useful to society at 30. On the other hand, over Nattie's 15 years in WWE, her character development has consisted of wearing cat ears occasionally and a brief flatulence problem. If we're willing to count Total Divas stuff, you can add that her husband is more interested in wrestling tapes than sex with her. Um...yeah. As I said earlier: Her character for about the last decade has been a) entitled heel vet or b) respected face vet with the added trait of cosplaying as her dad Also getting Bret’s pops cause people keep mistaking her entrance theme for someone interesting.
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Post by J is Justice on May 10, 2023 6:47:06 GMT -5
I remember when Nattie got called up to the main roster female talents could be expected to last about five years and that be considered a good run. Her run is now 15 years and counting. On one hand, I'm glad women can actually have lengthy runs like this instead of being tossed aside because the blinking chip in their hand indicates they're too old to be useful to society at 30. On the other hand, over Nattie's 15 years in WWE, her character development has consisted of wearing cat ears occasionally and a brief flatulence problem. If we're willing to count Total Divas stuff, you can add that her husband is more interested in wrestling tapes than sex with her. Um...yeah. Don't forget the hat.
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Post by chronocross on May 10, 2023 8:44:41 GMT -5
She's a good hand in the ring, but I'm not enthusiastic about her vs. Rhea Ripley.
It's just a bump in the road for Rhea until she moves onto other bigger feuds.
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