Ultimo Gallos
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on May 30, 2023 15:47:15 GMT -5
I remember buying 'Melloncollie and the Infinite Sadness' on cassette (!) way back when. And the guy who wrote 'Tonight Tonight' is now pushing flipping Tyrus. Folks, if you live long enough, you will see some shit, that's for sure. IIRC Siamese Dream came out during my senior year. Pretty sure I was walking to class listening to it before graduation. Now Billy Pumpkins is just the dude that pays Tim storm really good once a month or so.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 30, 2023 16:10:21 GMT -5
What's f***ed up is that in the earliest days of the revival they actually did have a niche and a vibe of being an '80s territory larp. It was a fun little something, only like 45 minutes long on Youtube every week. Just a neat little change of pace show. Slower paced wrestling, cheap set but in a charming way, lots of throwbacks. But people started to bleed out as Corgan lost a lot of talent, including Ricky Starks, the whole Jim Cornette commentary thing, and then just a general slowing of momentum. In the years since, it's just kind of bled out over time, and now obviously this Tyrus shitshow has been an absolute death. Videos on the NWA channel struggle to break the six digits now even after months of sitting around. There was a chance to carve out a real niche and find success, and Corgan has thrown it all into the fire so he could tell eveyrone they're wrong for not being into the worst conceivable guy to push. Like seriously... What does Tyrus bring to the table? He's fat... That's about it. He's not charismatic, he can barely move, and he's really not believable as a powerhouse I could understand when he was TV champion. NWA had better options, but I sort of got the reasoning. World champion, though? The guy has no athleticism, and he doesn't make up for it elsewhere. Chris Adonis, Elijah Burke, etc, there have been much better options for world champion for a while now.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 30, 2023 16:12:16 GMT -5
What's f***ed up is that in the earliest days of the revival they actually did have a niche and a vibe of being an '80s territory larp. It was a fun little something, only like 45 minutes long on Youtube every week. Just a neat little change of pace show. Slower paced wrestling, cheap set but in a charming way, lots of throwbacks. But people started to bleed out as Corgan lost a lot of talent, including Ricky Starks, the whole Jim Cornette commentary thing, and then just a general slowing of momentum. In the years since, it's just kind of bled out over time, and now obviously this Tyrus shitshow has been an absolute death. Videos on the NWA channel struggle to break the six digits now even after months of sitting around. There was a chance to carve out a real niche and find success, and Corgan has thrown it all into the fire so he could tell eveyrone they're wrong for not being into the worst conceivable guy to push. Like seriously... What does Tyrus bring to the table? He's fat... That's about it. He's not charismatic, he can barely move, and he's really not believable as a powerhouse I really don't want this to come off like if you're talented you can get away with sexual harassment but like, he's not even a talented sex pest? For as much as I hate it when some promoter drags a sex creep out of moth balls to get a push, at least there's sometimes talent there. I understand why it's being done even if I hate it. But with Tyrus it's all the downsides of a guy who with baggage mixed with all the downsides of him being an absolute dogshit wrestler. He offers only negatives. Negative PR, negative show quality, negative everything.
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Post by DSR on May 30, 2023 17:36:41 GMT -5
I remember someone on this very board, something like 17 years ago, regularly bringing up how much Tyrus sucked back when he was in developmental in Deep South Wrestling. I wanna say it was DSR for some reason. I could be vastly misremembering but I do remember all the reports of just how bad he was at everything. In the words of the immortal Shaggy, it wasn't me.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 30, 2023 17:47:45 GMT -5
I wanna say it was DSR for some reason. I could be vastly misremembering but I do remember all the reports of just how bad he was at everything. In the words of the immortal Shaggy, it wasn't me. Can I blame you anyway?! >_>
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2023 17:55:09 GMT -5
Man, I’ve been consuming all the wrestling I can for about 33 years and today I find out I’m not even a fan! What the hell, Billy?
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Post by DSR on May 30, 2023 17:55:46 GMT -5
In the words of the immortal Shaggy, it wasn't me. Can I blame you anyway?! >_> I actually did think the funkasaurus gimmick was fun at first. So...I guess? *shrug*
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 30, 2023 18:33:45 GMT -5
Can I blame you anyway?! >_> I actually did think the funkasaurus gimmick was fun at first. So...I guess? *shrug* I think we did figure out the person who actually was... but still... >_>
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Post by Cyno on May 30, 2023 18:50:15 GMT -5
If you're ever wondering who really ruined the Lord Tensai gimmick. It was Tyrus. >_>
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 30, 2023 22:07:27 GMT -5
Yeah, they're just making a joke about the Smashing Pumpkins song, but if NWA really was that traditionalist, it'd at least occupy a niche. Right now, it just feels like Billy spite-booking an out of shape Never-Was because Billy's rich and it really doesn't matter to him if NWA actually does well. He'd rather be "right" than successful with it. I wonder what the NWA would be doing right now had the Pandemic not happened. It was really hot before the Pandemic. It really did seem like it was fitting a niche. Then the pandemic happened and it all went to hell. Tough to say. Yeah the pandemic hurt them, but a lot of the talent they lost left because Corgan and Lagana really pissed them off. Plus sounds like Nick Aldis was a huge reason for a lot of the early success so Billy pissing off Magnus likely would have happened sooner or later. But... yeah his devotion to Tyrus is strange. Though really if you look at basically... all the champs in NWA (at least the men) it's all people that bigger promotions wouldn't touch while the women champs are all basically wrestlers still breaking into the business.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 31, 2023 2:15:40 GMT -5
first he stole Ernest Miller's wwe theme tune, now he's stolen Big Daddy's (70's/80's British wrestler.) older out of shape guy pushed at the top due to having a bit of name recognition gimmick. what's he taking next? Given his age, weight, and physical condition, I figure diabetes and/or heart medication.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on May 31, 2023 2:41:48 GMT -5
I see 0 reason why Tyrus is NWA Worlds Heavyweight Champion. Dude is easily the worst top champion in all of wrestling. Seriously, every other promotion's top champ has thing's going for them, and you can see why they're the top guy.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 31, 2023 3:07:20 GMT -5
I see 0 reason why Tyrus is NWA Worlds Heavyweight Champion. Dude is easily the worst top champion in all of wrestling. Seriously, every other promotion's top champ has thing's going for them, and you can see why they're the top guy. It's not just Tyrus as World Champion, Bram is their TV Champion, and EC3 is their National Champion This is, quite possibly, the worst singles champions lineup you may ever see in the history of wrestling. The only one worth a damn is Ricky Morton's 22 year old son Kerry being the Junior Heavyweight Champion, and that's saying a lot.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 31, 2023 3:14:54 GMT -5
I see 0 reason why Tyrus is NWA Worlds Heavyweight Champion. Dude is easily the worst top champion in all of wrestling. Seriously, every other promotion's top champ has thing's going for them, and you can see why they're the top guy. It's not just Tyrus as World Champion, Bram is their TV Champion, and EC3 is their National Champion This is, quite possibly, the worst singles champions lineup you may ever see in the history of wrestling. The only one worth a damn is Ricky Morton's 22 year old son Kerry being the Junior Heavyweight Champion, and that's saying a lot. it's amazing how much EC3's stock has dropped...
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 31, 2023 3:43:05 GMT -5
It's not just Tyrus as World Champion, Bram is their TV Champion, and EC3 is their National Champion This is, quite possibly, the worst singles champions lineup you may ever see in the history of wrestling. The only one worth a damn is Ricky Morton's 22 year old son Kerry being the Junior Heavyweight Champion, and that's saying a lot. it's amazing how much EC3's stock has dropped... He sure controlled his own narrative in that regard...
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on May 31, 2023 4:06:33 GMT -5
It's worth keeping in mind Tyrus tried pulling the 'I'm on Fox News so make me champ!' act on a threadbare Impact wrestling and they said 'Hard pass', before the sexual harassment allegations against him.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 31, 2023 4:11:23 GMT -5
It's worth keeping in mind Tyrus tried pulling the 'I'm on Fox News so make me champ!' act on a threadbare Impact wrestling and they said 'Hard pass', before the sexual harassment allegations against him. What's funny is how he keeps trying stuff like that and getting thrown further and further down the relevancy hole. He tried going he should be a main eventer in WWE... they dropped the Funkasaurus gimmick (the only reason he was over and used... and a gimmick he could have made bank on for the rest of his life)... and then no one cared... so they shuffled him BACK to developmental... Where he went to NXT and he had some of ht e worst matches of all time there with Pac... and then was fired almost immediately (not before breaking like all of Pac's teeth though) . I mean I guess congratulations to Tyrus for finding literally the only other person on the planet that thinks he should be a main eventer...
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Post by eJm on May 31, 2023 4:36:22 GMT -5
All of this just further reminds me of my great shame of being a gigantic Funkasaurus mark back in the day.
Le sigh.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on May 31, 2023 5:11:45 GMT -5
Billy really on something and or is the biggest denial I ever seen from one person. Tyrus most have some blackmail something he holding him against his will with this stuff. When I think of the true NWA peak years, the World title always been a workhorse title. It didn't matter what they looked like. When you think about the Funks, Briscos, Dusty, Flair, Sting, Windham, Steamboat, Race, and ext. All of them could do one thing, that was work a 20 to 30 match on any given night if not longer if needed. Tryus is not only not a good in ring performer and lets face it never was but now given his 50 and very immobile, even as a big man worker, and is so out of shape in the cardio side. That's why he looks like he going to have a heart attack 5 mins into a match. Now sorry Billy, THATS not wrestling and if enjoying that in your eyes makes you a wrestling fans, than I'll pass.
The biggest mistake in all of this is wrestling promoting 101, if there ever was a handbook, I'm pretty sure this would be one of the first things on it. NEVER tell a fan to NOT watch your product. The whole idea is wanting as many viewers and potential ticket buyers you can. Never make statments to drive any fan away and he does this twice now since Tyrus been champion because his ego can take the reality.
I laugh that "well 2 million on fox news see the belt." Thats cool but only 150K is watching the show on youtube. So those same 2 Million he spoke on are NOT watching your show. I'm pretty sure those 2 million are not ordering PPVs either.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on May 31, 2023 5:24:41 GMT -5
It's worth keeping in mind Tyrus tried pulling the 'I'm on Fox News so make me champ!' act on a threadbare Impact wrestling and they said 'Hard pass', before the sexual harassment allegations against him. What's funny is how he keeps trying stuff like that and getting thrown further and further down the relevancy hole. He tried going he should be a main eventer in WWE... they dropped the Funkasaurus gimmick (the only reason he was over and used... and a gimmick he could have made bank on for the rest of his life)... and then no one cared... so they shuffled him BACK to developmental... Where he went to NXT and he had some of ht e worst matches of all time there with Pac... and then was fired almost immediately (not before breaking like all of Pac's teeth though) . I mean I guess congratulations to Tyrus for finding literally the only other person on the planet that thinks he should be a main eventer... How useless do you need to be to have a bad match with PAC? Jeeze. When he was about to debut as Brodus on the main roster, Taker told him to fall and the gimmick would be DOA so he'd be sent back and repackaged as a monster. I kind of suspect he saw his dark matches and got PTSD flashbacks to Mabel crushing his face and having to try and carry guys like Bundy so tried to give him advice that would get him fired. 'Oh crap, he's over 6'2" and 300 pounds, if he sticks around too long, I'll end up having to work a PPV with this fool!'
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