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Post by karl100589 on Jun 2, 2023 12:21:11 GMT -5
There's a general consensus that the Attitude era ended at Wrestlemania X7. Thanks to the combination of Austin's heel turn, WCW and ECW ending and being the company's first stadium show in nine years (outside of the heavily papered RR97), but I find people are much vaguer when discussing the end of the first golden era of the late 80s/ early 90s. When do you think the bubble popped on the first pro wrestling boom. I've got some suggestions but feel free to suggest your own.
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Post by XIII on Jun 2, 2023 13:05:44 GMT -5
I think that when Warrior beat him at 6. He was still very over but you can almost feel the fans getting bored with him as each month passes. WM 7 having to move to a smaller arena kind of tells the tale.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 2, 2023 13:14:49 GMT -5
Honestly, 'Taker beating him. That was the kind of monster Hogan ALWAYS slayed and having him lose, no matter how screwy, was jarring. Everything after that seemed like running out the clock
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jun 2, 2023 13:18:30 GMT -5
I've always considered its end to be WrestleMania VIII.
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Post by tafkaga on Jun 2, 2023 13:25:43 GMT -5
WM8 felt like the swan song for me.
1) First WM where he didn't have the title or wasn't a challenger for the title. 2) Rumors of his retirement swirling and the sitdown 'thank you' interview with Vince. 3) Starting to look skinny but the last PPV where he still looked mostly like prime Hulk. 4) First WM where he was not able to beat the monster heel. 5) His obligatory victory celebration was completely upstaged by Warrior.
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Post by Renslayer on Jun 2, 2023 13:27:23 GMT -5
Outside of the ring, when he made a fool of himself on the arsenio hall show. In the ring, when taker beat him at survivor series. He got the title back, but it felt like the wwf were truly heading to a new era
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Post by tirtefaa on Jun 2, 2023 13:46:14 GMT -5
Hogan remained the most over guy on the roster until the day he left in 1993. It's hard to argue that Hulkamania ever ended beforehand, considering Hogan got cheered over everyone. There was definitely waning popularity, but those who stuck around, still loved Hogan.
The reaction to the 1992 Royal Rumble wasn't fans "turning" on Hogan, they were upset that Hogan helped Flair win, even if it was by means of enacting revenge on Sid.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Jun 2, 2023 15:37:44 GMT -5
Somewhere between WM 8 and Bret winning the title.
I said it here somewhat recently, but the overall vibe of the company feels different by the time of Survivor Series 1992, especially with Bret and Shawn in the main event.
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Post by bluebeach25 on Jun 2, 2023 15:51:15 GMT -5
Between Taker beating him at SS 91 and the 92 Rumble i would say. He was still pretty over until that from when was losing at WM 6. I wouldn't say WM 6 was the End of Hulkamania! By the 92 Rumble when Fans even cheered that Hogan got eliminated, that was the point it wasn't the same anymore. Also not doing Hogan/Flair and going with boring Hogan/Sid Match didn't help. Hulkmania was out and even more in 93 it felt out of place!
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Post by Triangle Lancer on Jun 2, 2023 16:35:29 GMT -5
Being a dick and pulling Sid out at the Rumble would be my choice.
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Post by ace on Jun 2, 2023 16:43:04 GMT -5
Never, brother
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jun 2, 2023 16:55:50 GMT -5
His influence waned over the years, but the end has to be KOTR 93. Even if Mania 8 was designed to be the swan song, the reality is he still came back and somehow managed to sneak his way back into a Mania main event the next year. At KOTR 93, Yoko kicked out of the leg drop and beat him. Hogan didn't look great physically in that match, either. In all other situations, Hogan got his heat back, brother. Not with Yoko.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2023 16:58:54 GMT -5
Definitely Mania 8. Going from Hogan vs Sid with the return of the ultimate warrior in the main event to the next ppv being main evented by Bret vs Bulldog in a battle of midcarders its not shocking that business started to really tank.
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Post by ppl591 on Jun 2, 2023 17:11:16 GMT -5
For me and it may well just be me, but around the end of 1990 and the slaughter stuff. It felt like the roster was turning over and it just didn't feel the same anymore to me.
To me the hulkamania era wasn't just hogan, it was the roster and the feel. To me it felt like a tonal shift especially after wm 7
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jun 2, 2023 17:13:47 GMT -5
Hulkamania will never end, Jack!
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Post by JasonVoorhees1988 on Jun 2, 2023 18:00:16 GMT -5
Ya kno something that bugs the shit out of me? The revisionist history that Hogan winning the belt at WM9 was this terrible thing.
Watch the show. The fans go ape shit when Hulk wins. He was still the most over dude in the company.
As for the answer to the question, KOTR.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 2, 2023 18:03:03 GMT -5
King of the Ring 1993 and definitively. Those banzai drops really made like it was the end.
Plus with Bret winning KOTR after having the WWE title just months before it. It definitely looked like Hogan down and Bret up in the hierarchy of the company.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2023 20:20:44 GMT -5
I consider WM8 to be the end of Hogan still really feeling like the top guy. Everything after that just felt like he was well past his sell-by date, and I was about 10 then, so I’m sure it was even more irritating to longtime adult fans.
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Post by tafkaga on Jun 2, 2023 23:29:37 GMT -5
Ya kno something that bugs the shit out of me? The revisionist history that Hogan winning the belt at WM9 was this terrible thing. Watch the show. The fans go ape shit when Hulk wins. He was still the most over dude in the company. As for the answer to the question, KOTR. Yeah, I was watching then, and I was really not a big fan of Hogan or Bret, but Hogan winning definitely felt like it brought prestige back to the WWF belt. No offense intended toward Bret, but in 1993 he was an IC title guy to me. He didn't really start to feel like main event tier until WM10.
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Post by SmashTV on Jun 3, 2023 2:50:35 GMT -5
For me it was the 92 Rumble. Hogan was visibly perturbed that fans were cheering Sid over him, and for once weren’t on his side when he bent the rules slightly. Not getting a clean victory at WM8 didn’t help things either.
I know he came back in 93 but the WWF was in a weird transitional phase, and even if Hogan was still popular his presence felt ‘off’. It wasn’t the same vibe as 1988 - hell, even 1990! - and I always felt that fans weren’t as invested in his return as made out. Hogan barely wrestling on TV after WM9 also wasn’t a good look.
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