Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 7, 2023 21:28:57 GMT -5
I really just don't even get how the Gunns are an act that's actually had, like, successes and gets regular screentime and the like? Dudes absolutely blow. Blame Danhausen and the Acclaimed. If the whole Ass Boys shtick hadn't gotten over they'd have never made it off of Dark. It's suddenly a bad thing that something got over? Like The Ass Boys made that chant work as much as Danhausen and Acclaimed did, and they made fun stuff out of it, I think this is a bit much tbh |
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Post by markymark on Jun 7, 2023 21:29:08 GMT -5
My thing with the idea of 'oh well they're just goons to take falls' is that like, that still involves watching matches of them? They're just not an act I have any attention span for so them being in matches featuring guys I do otherwise like is a net loss of interest for the match I otherwise would have been down with. It's like them getting the tag titles. I understood the reason why and the intention but you can understand intention and still not actually want to watch it.
They could just have the Gunns mention Punk getting injured the last time he faced them
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 7, 2023 21:29:42 GMT -5
They have go away heat with me. Much more likely to fast forward through a match when it involves them.
And this does Jay White no favors in getting over as a main event talent.
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 7, 2023 21:29:52 GMT -5
My thing with the idea of 'oh well they're just goons to take falls' is that like, that still involves watching matches of them? They're just not an act I have any attention span for so them being in matches featuring guys I do otherwise like is a net loss of interest for the match I otherwise would have been down with. It's like them getting the tag titles. I understood the reason why and the intention but you can understand intention and still not actually want to watch it.
They could just have the Gunns mention Punk getting injured the last time he faced them
... Damn that's a good point, they could actively say they were the reason CM Punk was out the first time for months. |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jun 7, 2023 21:29:55 GMT -5
Being one-time tag champs was already three times too many for the Gunns.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 7, 2023 21:30:08 GMT -5
Gino Gambino sounds like one of Tony D'Angelo's associates. The reality is actually much worse and he's made watching New Japan shows in English when he's in the booth an impossible feat I don't watch a super huge amount of New Japan, mostly just Wrestle Kingdom, but my general experience with him feels like he's someone who'd probably be relatively fun as the occasional guest commentator but quickly grows agonizing when you realize it's going to be entire shows with him. |
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Post by chrom on Jun 7, 2023 21:30:37 GMT -5
I really just don't even get how the Gunns are an act that's actually had, like, successes and gets regular screentime and the like? Dudes absolutely blow. Iron Savages have been stuck in Florida being webshow fodder for about two years almost and yet they're far better and would make more sense for Jay to bring in. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 7, 2023 21:30:56 GMT -5
They have go away heat with me. Much more likely to fast forward through a match when it involves them. And this does Jay White no favors in getting over as a main event talent. Jay White winning matches via interference from lackeys is something he's always done, as a main event talent, and as a champion with Bullet Club. Nothing changed here, it's just establishing Jay White things And Jay having lackeys he can hide behind is the exact thing that helps his character because it's a norm for him. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 7, 2023 21:31:49 GMT -5
I really just don't even get how the Gunns are an act that's actually had, like, successes and gets regular screentime and the like? Dudes absolutely blow. Iron Savages have been stuck in Florida being webshow fodder for about two years almost and yet they're far better and would make more sense for Jay to bring in. Idk man Iron Savages have been getting some pretty bad go away heat for their BTE skits lately lol I would like to see them be bruisers for someone though, idk if Bullet Club is that fit but someone would benefit |
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Post by markymark on Jun 7, 2023 21:32:38 GMT -5
They could just have the Gunns mention Punk getting injured the last time he faced them
... Damn that's a good point, they could actively say they were the reason CM Punk was out the first time for months.
Gunns claiming they were the main reason for Punks downfall in AEW could make them heroes in the IWC  |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jun 7, 2023 21:32:55 GMT -5
The reality is actually much worse and he's made watching New Japan shows in English when he's in the booth an impossible feat NJPW's English booth is really, really bad unless Veda or the Impact regulars are on commentary. Kevin "peaks the microphone as he screams his head off during a finisher" Kelly is the best one of the regulars. Kevin Kelly I can handle because he's at least doing stuff in the right spots. THen there's the guy who wrote a book or something, and whose vocal cadence sounds like you've been cornered alone in a Discord voice chat by someone infodumping about shit you don't care about while you wait for the person you were playing Minecraft with to come back from their shower and hop back into voice. Then there' f***ing Gino Gambino who sounds like if the most meme version of Commentary JBL was somehow louder, worse, and Australian. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 7, 2023 21:33:16 GMT -5
My thing with the idea of 'oh well they're just goons to take falls' is that like, that still involves watching matches of them? They're just not an act I have any attention span for so them being in matches featuring guys I do otherwise like is a net loss of interest for the match I otherwise would have been down with. It's like them getting the tag titles. I understood the reason why and the intention but you can understand intention and still not actually want to watch it.Don't give me that, you're just not thinking on 5 high levels to enjoy it like you should But yeah f*** them boys. Only good thing they did was come out to Many Men |
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 7, 2023 21:33:30 GMT -5
They have go away heat with me. Much more likely to fast forward through a match when it involves them. And this does Jay White no favors in getting over as a main event talent. Jay White winning matches via interference from lackeys is something he's always done, as a main event talent, and as a champion with Bullet Club. Nothing changed here, it's just establishing Jay White things And Jay having lackeys he can hide behind is the exact thing that helps his character because it's a norm for him. Lackeys that are that low-rent works for an already established talent. Jay still needs to get to that level and is at risk of being dragged down by charisma vacuums and channel changers like the Gunns. We already had the same situation play out with associating Hobbs with QT and we saw how that just torched his momentum. |
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Post by markymark on Jun 7, 2023 21:33:37 GMT -5
I really just don't even get how the Gunns are an act that's actually had, like, successes and gets regular screentime and the like? Dudes absolutely blow. Iron Savages have been stuck in Florida being webshow fodder for about two years almost and yet they're far better and would make more sense for Jay to bring in. Why? No one cared when they were heels that they had to bring someone else to be their managers thus turned them back face again. |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jun 7, 2023 21:34:15 GMT -5
My thing with the idea of 'oh well they're just goons to take falls' is that like, that still involves watching matches of them? They're just not an act I have any attention span for so them being in matches featuring guys I do otherwise like is a net loss of interest for the match I otherwise would have been down with. It's like them getting the tag titles. I understood the reason why and the intention but you can understand intention and still not actually want to watch it.Don't give me that, you're just not thinking on 5 high levels to enjoy it like you should But yeah f*** them boys. Only good thing they did was come out to Many Men Better explain to me one more time how the idea is that everyone thinks they suck and shouldn't be pushed, which makes pushing them a good thing. Maybe this time'll be the time it clicks. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 7, 2023 21:34:39 GMT -5
My thing with the idea of 'oh well they're just goons to take falls' is that like, that still involves watching matches of them? They're just not an act I have any attention span for so them being in matches featuring guys I do otherwise like is a net loss of interest for the match I otherwise would have been down with. It's like them getting the tag titles. I understood the reason why and the intention but you can understand intention and still not actually want to watch it.Don't give me that, you're just not thinking on 5 high levels to enjoy it like you should But yeah f*** them boys. Only good thing they did was come out to Many Men I still don't think it's a big deal, they're lower level lackey's now, they did what they were supposed to do, and you're supposed to say "F*** them boys" anyway lol They'll learn very quickly what being a grunt in Bullet Club entails lol |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 7, 2023 21:34:48 GMT -5
Jay White winning matches via interference from lackeys is something he's always done, as a main event talent, and as a champion with Bullet Club. Nothing changed here, it's just establishing Jay White things And Jay having lackeys he can hide behind is the exact thing that helps his character because it's a norm for him. Lackeys that are that low-rent works for an already established talent. Jay still needs to get to that level and is at risk of being dragged down by charisma vacuums and channel changers like the Gunns. We already had the same situation play out with associating Hobbs with QT and we saw how that just torched his momentum. Jay doesn't need a Gedo like heater but too bad AEW won't get him one |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 7, 2023 21:35:28 GMT -5
Don't give me that, you're just not thinking on 5 high levels to enjoy it like you should But yeah f*** them boys. Only good thing they did was come out to Many Men I still don't think it's a big deal, they're lower level lackey's now, they did what they were supposed to do, and you're supposed to say "F*** them boys" anyway lol They'll learn very quickly what being a grunt in Bullet Club entails lol Lower lackeys just means I have to watch them get their ass kicked which does not entertain me |
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Post by Cyno on Jun 7, 2023 21:36:08 GMT -5
I say this in the nicest way possible, but Bear Country/Iron Savages make the Ass Boys look like FTR.
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Post by SneakMan on Jun 7, 2023 21:36:40 GMT -5
Kevin Kelly I can handle because he's at least doing stuff in the right spots. THen there's the guy who wrote a book or something, and whose vocal cadence sounds like you've been cornered alone in a Discord voice chat by someone infodumping about shit you don't care about while you wait for the person you were playing Minecraft with to come back from their shower and hop back into voice. Then there' f***ing Gino Gambino who sounds like if the most meme version of Commentary JBL was somehow louder, worse, and Australian. Chris Charlton is a precious bean who is too pure for this sick world, but damn if this description isn't spot-on, lmao |
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