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Post by Hypnosis on Jun 7, 2023 21:36:50 GMT -5
The Gunns: While I get the whole pun with them and Bullet Club, I thought that was still a flat way to end the White/Starks main event. I really just don't even get how the Gunns are an act that's actually had, like, successes and gets regular screentime and the like? Dudes absolutely blow. Iron Savages have been stuck in Florida being webshow fodder for about two years almost and yet they're far better and would make more sense for Jay to bring in. Hopefully they return as Bear Country soon, because their BTE segments have been painful to watch. Maybe those are over with as of this week, though.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 7, 2023 21:37:00 GMT -5
Jay White winning matches via interference from lackeys is something he's always done, as a main event talent, and as a champion with Bullet Club. Nothing changed here, it's just establishing Jay White things And Jay having lackeys he can hide behind is the exact thing that helps his character because it's a norm for him. Lackeys that are that low-rent works for an already established talent. Jay still needs to get to that level and is at risk of being dragged down by charisma vacuums and channel changers like the Gunns. We already had the same situation play out with associating Hobbs with QT and we saw how that just torched his momentum. They aren't charisma vacuums, in fact they've cut some really good promos in their tag title run and even before, they fit completely in line with what BCG are, cocky heel douchebags who like to beat people up and consider themselves superior. It's a perfect aesthetic fit. I don't think The Gunns are gonna hurt Jay at all, it's not really the same situation either, as QTV becoming a thing that surrounded Hobbs was the main issue there, where these guys are goons in a faction Jay White is already helming.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 7, 2023 21:37:05 GMT -5
Don't give me that, you're just not thinking on 5 high levels to enjoy it like you should But yeah f*** them boys. Only good thing they did was come out to Many Men Better explain to me one more time how the idea is that everyone thinks they suck and shouldn't be pushed, which makes pushing them a good thing. Maybe this time'll be the time it clicks. You see, when a heel is trash that means he is actually good. If you boo them they are getting heat. If you cheer them they are getting over Just accept the logic
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Post by Cyno on Jun 7, 2023 21:38:25 GMT -5
I don't really hate the Gunns outside of their completely undeserved tag-team reign, but I was disappointed the inevitable interference spot was them and not, say, El Phantasmo. Or even Samoa Joe.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 7, 2023 21:38:25 GMT -5
I still don't think it's a big deal, they're lower level lackey's now, they did what they were supposed to do, and you're supposed to say "F*** them boys" anyway lol They'll learn very quickly what being a grunt in Bullet Club entails lol Lower lackeys just means I have to watch them get their ass kicked which does not entertain me Watching them get their asses kicked entertains me a lot because they're good at it so... agree to disagree I guess.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 7, 2023 21:38:25 GMT -5
Kevin Kelly I can handle because he's at least doing stuff in the right spots. THen there's the guy who wrote a book or something, and whose vocal cadence sounds like you've been cornered alone in a Discord voice chat by someone infodumping about shit you don't care about while you wait for the person you were playing Minecraft with to come back from their shower and hop back into voice. Then there' f***ing Gino Gambino who sounds like if the most meme version of Commentary JBL was somehow louder, worse, and Australian. Chris Charlton is a precious bean who is too pure for this sick world, but damn if this description isn't spot-on, lmao I love the knowledge Chris brings but I hate his voice I hate Kevin Kelly even more so yeah Japanese audio for me
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Post by Facetious on Jun 7, 2023 21:39:08 GMT -5
Don't give me that, you're just not thinking on 5 high levels to enjoy it like you should But yeah f*** them boys. Only good thing they did was come out to Many Men Better explain to me one more time how the idea is that everyone thinks they suck and shouldn't be pushed, which makes pushing them a good thing. Maybe this time'll be the time it clicks. I'll include it with my CM Punk isn't the focal piece of Collision thesis
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 7, 2023 21:39:22 GMT -5
I don't really hate the Gunns outside of their completely undeserved tag-team reign, but I was disappointed the inevitable interference spot was them and not, say, El Phantasmo. Or even Samoa Joe. Joe woulda been interesting but I was dreading it being ELP and a bunch of people going "Who is that? I don't know who that is. What a letdown" too.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jun 7, 2023 21:39:40 GMT -5
I'm completely apathetic to the Gunns, they'd be harmless if it wasn't for fact you can actually call the former tag Champs. Think the problem is they don't really make BCG seem any sort of threat. They'd be fine if the group had been established with a more menacing line up but as is doesn't add much to the group.
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Jun 7, 2023 21:40:53 GMT -5
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Post by Cyno on Jun 7, 2023 21:41:33 GMT -5
As for the Gunns joining BCG, I'll wait for their official confirmation that they're joining to love or hate it. For all we know, this was just to piss off FTR by targeting their guy Ricky Starks while they couldn't interfere.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 7, 2023 21:43:00 GMT -5
As for the Gunns joining BCG, I'll wait for their official confirmation that they're joining to love or hate it. For all we know, this was just to piss off FTR by targeting their guy Ricky Starks while they couldn't interfere. could be wrong but i think that guy who said they joined so BCG would be booed on Saturday against Punk in the thread might be right on the money
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Post by Kalmia on Jun 7, 2023 21:43:11 GMT -5
The Gunns are just complete voids of charisma for me. I don't think they're particularly bad at promos or wrestling they just do not stand out in any single way, IMO. I don't want to cheer them and I don't want to boo them. I just don't care. I hate that they're being put into positions that I want to care about. I want to care about BCG because I find Jay and Juice entertaining.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 7, 2023 21:49:29 GMT -5
Just gonna point out there's a 5 page thread in 45 minutes about the Ass Boys. Ya'll are more venomous towards them than ya were to Herp and Derp with Jinder or J and J security with Seth
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Post by MrElijah on Jun 7, 2023 21:49:56 GMT -5
Better explain to me one more time how the idea is that everyone thinks they suck and shouldn't be pushed, which makes pushing them a good thing. Maybe this time'll be the time it clicks. You see, when a heel is trash that means he is actually good. If you boo them they are getting heat. If you cheer them they are getting over Just accept the logic Why does this sound like some Kendrick Perkins bullshit he would spew if he was covering wrestling?
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Post by Kalmia on Jun 7, 2023 21:51:56 GMT -5
Just gonna point out there's a 5 page thread in 45 minutes about the Ass Boys. Ya'll are more venomous towards them than ya were to Herp and Derp with Jinder or J and J security with Seth To be fair, at least two of those pages are talking about EVIL and the NJPW announce team.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 7, 2023 21:54:04 GMT -5
You see, when a heel is trash that means he is actually good. If you boo them they are getting heat. If you cheer them they are getting over Just accept the logic Why does this sound like some Kendrick Perkins bullshit he would spew if he was covering wrestling? Some Perk bullshit would be "Them Gun Boys are the truth, I am telling y'all. They going go all the way but y'all not trying to listen. Carry the Hell on"
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Post by jm on Jun 7, 2023 21:54:04 GMT -5
I'm sure there will be calm and reasonable reactions to the Gunns joining BCG. 5 pages in less than an hour. Looks like I was way off.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jun 7, 2023 21:55:07 GMT -5
I don't really hate the Gunns outside of their completely undeserved tag-team reign, but I was disappointed the inevitable interference spot was them and not, say, El Phantasmo. Or even Samoa Joe. Samoa Joe would've made the most sense, especially to build to the Collision main event.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 7, 2023 21:55:18 GMT -5
Just gonna point out there's a 5 page thread in 45 minutes about the Ass Boys. Ya'll are more venomous towards them than ya were to Herp and Derp with Jinder or J and J security with Seth Don’t think anyone cared much for Jinder like they do for Jay White, but it’s not like Jinder’s run isn’t universally panned. Seth was already established, and was part of the Authority with Triple H, Steph and others. Jay White is not established yet in the company and is now being saddled with channel changers like the Gunn Club.
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