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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 1, 2023 17:56:49 GMT -5
I had said since he got in charge it was going to take a year and you won't really see it until Summerslam 2023 (basically a year from when he took over) and I feel like he is finally getting the pieces in place for the shows he wants
Bloodline storyline seems to have a few months left until Mania when that concludes. JD and Damage Ctrl looks to be hitting their ending spots. Wrestlers like Io and Priest are being positioned up while some like Miz and a potential returning Carlito are the vets used to keep the show moving and potentially help NXT
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jul 1, 2023 23:02:21 GMT -5
It's kinda hard to fully invest in this vision when McMustache can decide to appear at any time and tear up the night's program to replace it with a product that even the terminally bored would struggle to find engaging.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 1, 2023 23:04:38 GMT -5
It will never be HHHs true vision as long as Vince periodically meddles, and since he has been recently, hard to say that
Also hard to say when the Bloodline storyline was something he inherited, not created. He needs to have something he started from the ground up imo, and stuff he has so far hasn't hit that second gear to me yet, Judgment Day might be closest due to the retooling of the act.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 1, 2023 23:11:32 GMT -5
I don't know. All the Bloodline/Cody stuff started when Vince was in charge. The ring work is great but that also shined through at times beforehand. I guess I would say the product is less aggressively stupid at times so it's usually average at worst. But I wouldn't say it's his vision per se.
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Post by HIM on Jul 1, 2023 23:42:39 GMT -5
As each week goes by more and more of his vision is shining true. While Vince can make changes, it's definitely different than prior and it continues to improve. We will see how it goes say by next year's WM. So far though I'm digging this era more than Vince's.
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Post by King (Super) Dragunov on Jul 2, 2023 6:19:36 GMT -5
I like that he's doing well enough that when Vince Vince's you can DEFINITELY f***ING TELL.
I haven't agreed with everything, but when Vince isn't meddling, and with some hindsight, I can say I've enjoyed it.
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Post by fw91 on Jul 2, 2023 6:28:35 GMT -5
Idk, although the PLE’s are very stellar, I find a lot of the weekly tv to be skippable.
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Post by dbrussel on Jul 2, 2023 12:12:12 GMT -5
I see the product exactly like a year ago... only some minor changes of wrestlers being used more or less
Looking back one year ago to today
Bloodline is still the main storyline, without Sami now Gunther and Theory still at the top of the midcard Men tag division still doesnt have strong enough contenders for the champs Women's divisions still turn around Becky, Bianca, Charlotte and Rhea, with some special guest like Asuka Women tag titles are not in a better position
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jul 2, 2023 12:16:03 GMT -5
I like that he's doing well enough that when Vince Vince's you can DEFINITELY f***ING TELL. I haven't agreed with everything, but when Vince isn't meddling, and with some hindsight, I can say I've enjoyed it. The RAW after WM had Ol' Predator Tash's fingerprints all over it and it somehow made an already deflating weekend 50 times worse.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2023 12:21:37 GMT -5
It was already said but the real adavantage is you can absoloutley differentiate now where HHH has his influence and where Vince has his.
It feels like early NXT (atleast with the TV) where the TV show isn't stellar and but does enough to push you to watch the PPVs which is what really matters...much like you could have skipped the weekly show but Takeovers were can't miss.
I think it will progress to a more balanced vision eventually which is what NXT was IMO when went to USA network.
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Post by clifford on Jul 2, 2023 12:31:28 GMT -5
Idk, although the PLE’s are very stellar, I find a lot of the weekly tv to be skippable. WWE's production and ability to recap feuds so succinctly is in some ways a detriment to them too, in the fact that I can watch a PPV of theirs once a month, without watching a second of the tv shows, and have everything filled in for me. I dont need to watch Raw or Smackdown at the moment, I get everything I need out of just sticking to the PPVs. And lemme tell you, those PPVs are on fire at the moment. They are treated like a big deal, they feel like a big deal, and they are a big deal. Trip's booking patterns are very enjoyable. Whether this is him, or a collective thing, but superstars are so much better presented these days too. So many of them feel like these larger than life phenomenons that awe the crowd.
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