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Post by darthobiwan on Jul 22, 2023 12:32:01 GMT -5
Which 3 results should happen?
Do the brothers from Dudleyville take belts from French guys?
Does Atrain run over Undertaker?
Does Bischoff get a win over a Mcmahon?
Do either Benoit, Tajiri, or Rhyno win US title instead of Eddie (new poll if chosen)?
Does Brock take belt from Kurt a little earlier than he originally did?
Does RVD get extreme enough to stop Kane?
Does either Shawn, Y2J, Nash, Orton, or Goldberg take belt from HHH in Chamber (new poll if chosen)?
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Post by bob on Jul 22, 2023 13:25:24 GMT -5
RVD, Bischoff and someone not named HHH
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Post by darthobiwan on Jul 24, 2023 19:29:22 GMT -5
We now have the 3 matches that will change winners. 2 of then are title matches with multiple options for a victor. 2 more polls are being created to decide those.
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Post by darthobiwan on Aug 1, 2023 13:26:43 GMT -5
We are LIVE from Phoenix, Arizona for Summerslam 2003! We have 7 matches tonight, with 4 of them being title matches.
Opening match is for World Tag team titles, with LA Resistance defending against Dudley Boys. Dudleys seek their 18th... or is it 19th (I didn't keep track) tag title reign, but La Resistance had other plans as Rob Conway was able to hit Dvon with a camera, allowing Renee Dupree to pin the former Reverend for the French guys to retain.
Second match is Undertaker vs Atrain. Undertaker is able to hold off Vince Mcmahon's hired gun, and pins him after a chokeslam. After the match, Sable comes out to try seducing the Deadman, but Undertaker rejects her and grabs her by the throat, allowing Stephanie Mcmahon to run out and attack the "mistress" of her father.
Third match is Falls Count Anywhere, as Shane McMahon goes against the man that tried to run his family out of business few years ago... Eric Bischoff. Jonathan Coachman interferes and assist Eric with attacking Shane (what did Bisch promise him?). The glass shatters and out comes Stone Cold Steve Austin, who gets "physically provoked" by Coach and Bischoff and he stuns them both. Shane then lays Eric onto annouce desk, then leaps off top turnbuckle and lands on elbow drop onto Eric, and annouce table breaks and Shane pins him!
*Fourth match is US title match in a Fatal 4 way, with Eddie Guerrero defending against fellow ECW alumni Chris Benoit, Rhyno, and Tajiri. The action is fast paced for 15 minutes with all 4 men pulling out all the stops. At one point, Benoit gets Tajiri trapped in a crossface to attempt the submission, however Eddie was sneaky and lands on Benoit with a frogsplash, but before he can cover him for the pinfall, Rhyno GOARS Eddie! Then when Rhyno attempts to pin Eddie, Tajiri recovers enough to spit mist into Rhyno's face, and then finishes him with a kick to the head and pins him! Tajiri has won US title!!! The other 3 men look on disappointed as Tajiri is cheered and walks away with the gold!
Fifth match is for WWE title, as Kurt Angle defends against Brock Lesnar. Kurt is able to maneuver Brock and slow down the beast. Angle looks to have Brock submitted in an ankle lock, but Vince interfered here with referee down and attacks Kurt with a chair. Lesnar attempts an F5 onto Kurt, but Angle reverses it and locks in the ankle lock a second time, this time with referee recovering to see Brock tap out. Angle retains! After the match, Kurt slams Vince through a chair!
*Sixth match is No Holds Barred, with Rob Van Dam vs Kane. Kane gives his former tag partner a vicious beating, but RVD is able to fight back with a series of flying kicks and chair shots. Kane gets a close pinfall by chokeslaming RVD with Van Dam kicking out at 2.9. Rvd gets the monster wear down enough to deliver a frogsplash... but that only gets 2! Finally, with the aid of a trashcan, RVD goes coast to coast and nails Kane with a vandominator and pins him! RVD has beaten Kane!!!
*Main Event is an Elimination Chamber with the WHC on the line. HHH defends against fellow former world champions Goldberg, Chris Jericho, Shawn Michaels, and Kevin Nash, as well as his own Evolution protégé Randy Orton. Jericho and Michaels start the match and have a brief 5 minute repeat of their epic Wrestlemania 19 encounter. Randy is the first to exit his pod, and he attacks his 2 opponents in the ring until Jericho and Michaels are able to slow him down. Kevin Nash enters fourth and attacks the other 3 with right hands and power moves. However Shawn is able to nail his former bodyguard with a superkick and Jericho pins Nash and Big Sexy to be first eliminated. Reigning champion HHH enters fifth... but just as his pod opens up Shawn Michaels is waiting for him and superkicks him, and HHH is out laying in his pod for several minutes. Entering last is Goldberg... who is a house of fire! He spears and jackhammer Shawn and pins him! Goldberg then spears Orton, and that is when HHH jumps into the ring and attacks Goldberg. Da Man then makes easy pickings out of HHH and pins him after a jackhammer! We are down to 3 (Goldberg, Jericho, and Orton, the latter whom is recovering from a spear). Jericho attempts a pinfall after a lionsault, but Goldberg just shoves him off and spears him.. then delivers another jackhammer and pins him! While this is going on Ric Flair at ringside slips in a sledgehammer and HHH, still laying on the side of chamber from getting pinned earlier, grabs it and nails Goldberg in the head with it. Goldberg is weakened but is strong enough to get back to his feet and stare down HHH, when out of nowhere Randy Orton has recovered and RKOs Goldberg! Randy covers him for a 3 count! Randy Orton has won the WHC.... AND he is the youngest ever world champion of WWE at age 23!!! Hhh hits a pedigree onto Goldberg for good measure, as Batista and Flair enter the ring to join with Randy celebrating the world title win. HhH then stares with no emotion at Rnady holding the belt. Is he happy for his protégé winning the big one, or upset that Rnayd took "his title "?
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Post by darthobiwan on Aug 1, 2023 13:27:04 GMT -5
Fantasy booking until Summerslam 2004... Raw after Summerslam. Show opens with a big celebration with Evolution members Batista and Flair celebrating Randy's title win. HHH comes out on his own a few minutes later, and stares at Randy for about 30 seconds... then smiles and shakes his hand. Hhh on mic says "I am proud of you Kid, I taught you well and you took advantage of the situation and won the big one. Now just know this, I want a shot at MY world title... but I WANT Goldberg's head first!". Later that night Gokdberg accept HHH 1 on 1 challenge for next ppv. Next week on Raw, in a battle royal Shawn Michaels eliminates Chris Jericho last with a superkick to earn a WHC opportunity.
Unforgiven ppv. Dudleys beat LA Resistance to win world tag team titles! Goldberg pins HHH after a spear and jackhammer. Randy Orton pins Shawn Michaels after RKO to retain WHC.
Over on Smaxkdown. Undertaker and Vince Mcmahon start feuding, with Big Show attacking Deadman for Vince. Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar agree to have "I last match" for wwe title at ppv, this time in an ironman match for 60 minutes.
No Mercy ppv. Tajiri pins Eddie Guerrero after a kick to the head to retain US title. No Holds Barred match: Big Show pins Undertaker after a chokeslam (and Vince attacking Deadman with a pipe). Ironman match: Within last 5 seconds, Kurt makes Brock submit to ankle lock to tie the score at 5-5. Vince Mcmahon orders a sudden death overtime, and Kurt makes Brock tap again within 30 seconds to win 6-5 retain wwe title.
Survivor Series ppv. RVD & John Cena survivor an elimination match (Angle was on winning team, while Lesnar was on losing side). Kane beats Shane McMahon in an ambulance match. Vince Mcmahon beats Undertaker with the aid of Kane to bury him in a buried alive match. Randy Orton survives elimination match for Eric Bischoff to force Steve Austin to quit his Co-GM position.
Armageddon ppv. Batista & Ric Flair beat Dudleys to win world tag team titles! Hhh pins Goldberg cleanly after a second pedigree. After the match, Goldberg and HHH shake hands, teasing hhh face turn. 3 way for WHC: Randy Orton vs Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels. HHH comes out to seemingly assist Orton, but shockingly turns on him and officially face by hitting Randy with sledgehammer! Jericho pins Michaels after lionsault to win WHC!
Royal Rumble ppv. Kurt Angle makes Atrain tap out to ankle lock to stay Wwe champion. Last Man Standing for WHC: Goes to a draw when both men can not answer a 10 count (Shawn Michaels superkicks Jericho, but Michaels is too beaten up to get up either, so Jericho stays champion). Rumble match Final 4: Eddie Guerrero and Randy Orton (these 2 being 1 and 2 respectively), Rob Van Dam (20), and HHH (26). Hhh pedigrees and eliminates Orton, then Randy runs back in to RKO HHh and toss him. Eddie and RVD have a few minutes matchup, with RVD catching Eddie with a spin kick and Eddie falls out of the ring, is RVD wins 2003 Royal Rumble!
During this time, Brock Lesnar and Goldberg start tauning each other.
No Way Out ppv. Big Show pins Tajiri to win US title! Number 1 con tenders match: Brock Lesnar vs Eddie Guerrero. Goldberg interferes by spearing Lesnar, leading to Eddie Guerrero pinning Brock after frogsplash! Kurt Angle makes John Cena tap to ankle lock to stay wwf champion.
Wrestlemania 20. John Cena pins Big Show after FU to win US title! Batista & Ric Flair beat World's Greatest Tag Team (Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas) in a."winners gets to keep their belts without defending them for next 90 days". Goldberg pins Brock Lesnar after 2 jackhammers (in this version Lesnar still leaves but Goldberg stays with WWE). Randy Orton pins HHH after a 3rd RKO. Undertaker returns and pins Kane after tombstone to go 12-0! Eddie Guerrero does his sneaky loosen boot spot to roll up Kurt Angle and pin him to become WWE champion! Triple threat for WHC: Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels vs Rob Van Dam. Michaels nails Jericho with a superkick and attempts a pinfall, but RVD interrupts this with a rolling thunder , then nails Jericho with a 5star Frogsplash and pins him! RVD is NEW WHC!
Backlash ppv. Goldberg pins Randy Orton after spear and jackhammer. HHH beats Batista & Ric Flair in a 1 vs 2 match when Shawn Michaels superkicks Batista, allowing HHH to pin Flair after pedigree (HHH and Shawn re-form DX 2 years earlier).. RVD pins Chris Jericho after 5 star Frogsplash to stay WHC.
Judgment Day ppv. Undertaker pins Mark Jindrak after tombstone. John Cena pins Renee Depree after FU to stay US champion. Eddie Guerrero pins Booker T after frogsplash to stay wwe champion.
During this time they have Raw and Smackdown trades. Undertaker goes to Raw, while Goldberg goes to Smackdown. Around this time Goldberg turns heel and says he is "better than anyone on Raw anyway". Edge returns after being gone 1 year after neck surgery.
Badd Blood ppv. Kane pins Chris Benoit after chokeslam. 6 man match: Shawn Michaels, HHH, and Edge beat Randy Orton, Ric Flair, and Batista after Edge pinned Orton after spear. WHC title match: Rob Van Dam vs Undertaker. Match goes 15 minutes and Undertaker catches RVD in a tombstone to try becoming champion.... but Goldberg interferes and spears Undertaker, therefore RVD is DQ but stays champion.
Goldberg gets a wwe title match against Eddie at ppv. Goldberg demands a clause where "if Undertaker or anyone else interferes in their match, they will be fired", to which Eddie agrees.
Great American Bash ppv. John Cena pins Booker T after FU to retain US title. Bradshaw, whom had changed to JBL at this time, pins Rey Mysterio after a clothesline from hell. After fighting hard for 10 minutes, Eddie Guerrero ultimately falls to Goldberg by spear and jackhammer, and Goldberg becomes wwe champion!
Featured Summerslam 2004 matches include... World Tag team title match: HHH & Shawn Michaels vs Ric Flair & Batista. IC title match: Edge vs Chris Jericho. US title match 3 way: John Cena vs Eddie Guerrero vs Kurt Angle. Tajiri vs JBL. WHC match: Rob Van Dam vs Randy Orton. Wwe title match: Goldberg vs Undertaker.
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Post by darthobiwan on Aug 1, 2023 13:32:06 GMT -5
Title changes/opening match/Main event changes.
Opening match: 5 in 16 (31%). Wwf/E title: 7 in 13 (54%). Wcw/Whc title: 2 in 2 (100%). IC title: 6 in 14 (43%). Tag Team titles (all tag belts): 5 in 12 (42%). Women's title: 2 in 3 (67%). *Other titles not defended at least 5 times: (Million $): 1 in 1 (100%). European: 1 in 3 (33%). Hardcore: 0 in 3 (0%). Cruiserweight/Lightheavyweight title: 1 in 1 (100%). US title: 1 (1 in 1). Main Event: 10 in 16 (63%).
*Breakdown of wrestler match changes. The parentheses will show the breakdown of changing in matches favor or against.
*5 or more changes Ultimate Warrior: 5 (1 in 5). Bret Hart: 5 (1 in 5).
*4 or less changes Shawn Michaels: 4 (1 in 4). Kane/Isaac Yankem: 4 (2 in 4). Hulk Hogan: 3 (0 in 3). Ted Dibiase: 3 (3 in 3). Owen Hart: 3 (3 in 3). Billy Gunn: 3 (1 in 3). Xpac/123 Kid: 3 (1 in 3). Undertaker: 3 (1 in 3). Eddie Guerrero: 3 (1 in 3). Andre The Giant: 2 (2 in 2). Rick Rude: 2 (2 in 2). Jim Neidhart: 2 (1 in 2). Smash: 2 (1 in 2). Jacques Rougeaus/Mountie: 2 (1 in 2). Big Boss Man: 2 (1 in 2). Randy Savage: 2 (0 in 2). IRS: 2 (1 in 2). Davey Boy Smith: 2 (1 in 2). Ken Shamrock: 2 (1 in 2). Rock: 2 (0 in 2). Booker T: 2 (2 in 2). Tajiri: 2 (2 in 2). Raymond Rougeaus: 1 (0 in 1). Dynamite Kid: 1 (1 in 1). Honky Tonk Man: 1 (1 in 1). Arn Anderson: 1 (0 in 1). Tully Blanchard: 1 (0 in 1). Akeem: 1 (1 in 1). Ax: 1 (0 in 1). Earthquake: 1 (1 in 1). Crush: 1 (1 in 1). Virgil: 1 (0 in 1). Gen. Adnan: 1 (1 in 1). Col. Mustafa/Iron Sheik: 1 (1 in 1). Rick Martel: 1 (0 in 1). Hawk: 1 (0 in 1). Animal: 1 (0 in 1). Lex Luger: 1 (1 in 1). Yokozuna: 1 (0 in 1). Mr. Perfect: 1 (1 in 1). FAKE Undertaker/Brian Lee: 1 (1 in 1). Bull Nakano: 1 (1 in 1). Alundra Blayze: 1 (0 in 1). Mabel: 1 (1 in 1). Diesel: 1 (0 in 1). Razor Ramon: 1 (1 in 1). Vader: 1 (1 in 1). Jake Roberts: 1 (1 in 1). Jerry Lawler: 1 (0 in 1). Marty Jannetty: 1 (1 in 1). Al Snow/Leif Cassiedy: 1 (1 in 1). Bart Gunn: 1 (0 in 1). Steve Austin: 1 (1 in 1). Roadogg: 1 (0 in 1). Mankind/Mick Foley: 1 (1 in 1). Jeff Jarrett: 1 (1 in 1). Albert: 1 (1 in 1). Droz: 1 (1 in 1). Faarooq: 1 (0 in 1). Bradshaw/JBL: 1 (0 in 1). Tori: 1 (1 in 1). Ivory: 1 (0 in 1). Trish Stratus: 1 (1 in 1). Val Venis: 1 (1 in 1). Chyna: 1 (0 in 1). Rikishi: 1 (1 in 1). Scotty 2 Hotty: 1 (1 in 1). Grandmaster Sexay: 1 (1 in 1). Godfather: 1 (0 in 1). Steven Richards: 1 (0 in 1). Bull Buchanan: 1 (0 in 1). Tazz: 1 (1 in 1). Jerry Lawler: 1 (0 in 1). DDP: 1 (1 in 1). Chris Kanyon: 1 (1 in 1). Goldust: 1 (1 in 1). Lance Storm: 1 (0 in 1). Christian: 1 (0 in 1). Rey Mysterio: 1 (1 in 1). Kurt Angle: 1 (0 in 1). Edge: 1 (0 in 1). Randy Orton; 1 (1 in 1). HHH: 1 (0 in 1). Rob Van Dam: 1 (1 in 1).
Wwe title has NOT had a different result in the last 6 Summerslams, with just over 50% being changes now. Less than a third of opening matches have changed results, while it's close to 2/3s for main events. Kane has seen 4 of his matches changed, with Eddie Guerrero having 3 of them changed, and Tajiri getting both of his changed in his favor.
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