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Post by LiamMcDuggle on Jul 26, 2023 18:41:49 GMT -5
While VKM clearly has some say in the stories, the biggest tropes he employed as a booker are mostly still gone, including 50/50 booking! And that deserves a celebration!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2023 19:11:13 GMT -5
Bow down!
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Post by theironyuppie on Jul 26, 2023 19:44:27 GMT -5
It’s been a welcome change, along with less obnoxious ‘comedy’, less random filler matches and less ‘random women team up because they’re heels and the other random women are faces’.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 26, 2023 19:50:51 GMT -5
I mean, as flawed as the product still can be, you don’t get any of that kind of stuff that would be seen as going through the bottom of the quality barrel anymore.
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Post by eJm on Jul 27, 2023 4:12:31 GMT -5
Here's another interesting thing, too.
This past year basically made the case for shareholders that Vince shouldn't be anywhere near creative, merger or not.
Think about it; this boom and expansion happened under HHH's creative control. Vince wasn't even near the company for a good chunk of it and got in off the fact he, well, still has the most shares so nobody could do much about it. And yeah, he does run the company but he's not the front facing person in shareholders meetings, HHH and Nick Khan are. So if I'm a shareholder, I'm not exactly optimistic about how much Endeaver wants Vince back in Power in that way when, in comparison, Vince was treading water and only really had Roman Reigns to carry him through the pandemic.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 27, 2023 5:03:35 GMT -5
The one thing I wish would end, is that feuds still drag out ENTIRELY too long in some respects
I'm not talking Bloodline that's too obvious just like other feuds that either feel like they go forever or some that just stop and start and then stop and start up again like whatever the hell purgatory Bronson Reed is stuck in.
It has been better though, 50/50 booking only works if they have a rubber match with higher stakes and in that era, they didn't really give a shit...
Nothing will beat the "2 out of 3 falls in regular matches" era though... like what the f*** was that fever dream?
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jul 27, 2023 7:28:00 GMT -5
The one thing I wish would end, is that feuds still drag out ENTIRELY too long in some respects I'm not talking Bloodline that's too obvious just like other feuds that either feel like they go forever or some that just stop and start and then stop and start up again like whatever the hell purgatory Bronson Reed is stuck in. It has been better though, 50/50 booking only works if they have a rubber match with higher stakes and in that era, they didn't really give a shit... Nothing will beat the "2 out of 3 falls in regular matches" era though... like what the f*** was that fever dream? I've always suspected that's a Triple H booking trope, even from when he was still an active wrestler
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Post by mrtuesday on Jul 27, 2023 8:55:39 GMT -5
The one thing I wish would end, is that feuds still drag out ENTIRELY too long in some respects I'm not talking Bloodline that's too obvious just like other feuds that either feel like they go forever or some that just stop and start and then stop and start up again like whatever the hell purgatory Bronson Reed is stuck in. It has been better though, 50/50 booking only works if they have a rubber match with higher stakes and in that era, they didn't really give a shit... Nothing will beat the "2 out of 3 falls in regular matches" era though... like what the f*** was that fever dream? The 2 out of 3 falls thing, as well as the "match reset" was a Vince thing to try to eliminate matches happening during commercial breaks. The logical thing would be to have shorter matches and possibly more of them on the show. But Vince isn't logical. So 2 out of 3 falls with a rest period during the commercial every week. Matches that devolve into chaos forcing the match to be "reset" during the commercial break and a restart when they come back, complete with bell ringing a second time. Eventually they gave up on it all and just have wrestling during commercials again.
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Post by dbrussel on Jul 27, 2023 12:32:19 GMT -5
There are less "50/50" feuds but we still have the Bronson Reed / Nakamura / Ricochet / Ciampa spectacular .... and the Becky/Trish thing
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Post by XIII on Jul 27, 2023 13:54:41 GMT -5
Good news everyone, no more 50/50 booking.
YAY!
Bad news everyone, neverending title reigns and heat!
BOO!
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Post by karl100589 on Jul 27, 2023 14:08:32 GMT -5
The one thing I wish would end, is that feuds still drag out ENTIRELY too long in some respects I'm not talking Bloodline that's too obvious just like other feuds that either feel like they go forever or some that just stop and start and then stop and start up again like whatever the hell purgatory Bronson Reed is stuck in. It has been better though, 50/50 booking only works if they have a rubber match with higher stakes and in that era, they didn't really give a shit... Nothing will beat the "2 out of 3 falls in regular matches" era though... like what the f*** was that fever dream? The 2 out of 3 falls thing, as well as the "match reset" was a Vince thing to try to eliminate matches happening during commercial breaks.The logical thing would be to have shorter matches and possibly more of them on the show. But Vince isn't logical. So 2 out of 3 falls with a rest period during the commercial every week. Matches that devolve into chaos forcing the match to be "reset" during the commercial break and a restart when they come back, complete with bell ringing a second time. Eventually they gave up on it all and just have wrestling during commercials again.
As bad as this era was, I did love the Iiconics stalling an elimination tag match by having a tantrum during the break.
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Post by fg on Jul 27, 2023 14:14:56 GMT -5
How about the fact that the authority figure is for the most part not there anymore instead of being there a lot of the time.
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Post by Hypnosis on Jul 27, 2023 17:33:23 GMT -5
The 2 out of 3 falls thing, as well as the "match reset" was a Vince thing to try to eliminate matches happening during commercial breaks.The logical thing would be to have shorter matches and possibly more of them on the show. But Vince isn't logical. So 2 out of 3 falls with a rest period during the commercial every week. Matches that devolve into chaos forcing the match to be "reset" during the commercial break and a restart when they come back, complete with bell ringing a second time. Eventually they gave up on it all and just have wrestling during commercials again.
As bad as this era was, I did love the Iiconics stalling an elimination tag match by having a tantrum during the break.
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Post by bob on Jul 27, 2023 19:19:39 GMT -5
it's less 50/50 ,but a lot more cohesion and substantially less nonsensical things under Trips
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