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Post by Lance Uppercut on Aug 4, 2023 13:52:15 GMT -5
Bernadette from the Big Bang theory. Became less mousy and shy, into mean spirited office bully at work.
Gloria from modern family. Originally a hard working single mother immigrant who met a nice older man. Later, it’s revealed that Stole her sisters love interest (said older man) and chance for a better life.
What other characters did you like less once you started to know a bit more of their backstory?
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 4, 2023 13:57:19 GMT -5
Wolverine gets less interesting the more Marvel adds to his already convoluted backstory.
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Post by Spider2024 on Aug 4, 2023 14:15:20 GMT -5
Seymore Skinner. (Both of them.)
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Post by karl100589 on Aug 4, 2023 16:10:05 GMT -5
Mr Lu Kim from South Park. The Chinese stereotype was one-dimensional, but I much prefer it over him being a man with multiple personality disorder who believed he was Chinese. Added a needlessly sinister element to the character.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 4, 2023 16:14:31 GMT -5
Gambit was killed as a major figure in comics after they explained away every shred of mystery he had. If you're going to flesh out the backstory of a popular man of mystery, you better bring your A-list talent to do it.
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Post by Bo Rida on Aug 4, 2023 16:58:30 GMT -5
Isn't that essentially most of what's on Disney+
Well Bobba Fett anyway, he was better as the cult favourite because he looked cool.
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Post by James Fabiano on Aug 4, 2023 17:09:41 GMT -5
Isn't that essentially most of what's on Disney+ Well Bobba Fett anyway, he was better as the cult favourite because he looked cool. Anakin Skywalker before that, full stop. Disney-wise, not as bad as their other infamous example...MALEFICENT.
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Post by ace on Aug 4, 2023 17:19:29 GMT -5
Isn't that essentially most of what's on Disney+ Well Bobba Fett anyway, he was better as the cult favourite because he looked cool. Anakin Skywalker before that, full stop. Disney-wise, not as bad as their other infamous example...MALEFICENT. Everything they’ve added to Anakin after Return of the Jedi until maybe the lightsaber battle in the Obi-wan show was disastrous. I really had to watch this awesome character whine through three movies and end up hearing James Earl Jones ask how f***ing Padme was. Gross and terrible and the worst.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 4, 2023 17:32:50 GMT -5
The Borg
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Post by peaches1 on Aug 4, 2023 17:41:28 GMT -5
Michael Scott from "The Office". Almost every attempt to humanize him fell flat with me.
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Post by yokohamacpfc on Aug 4, 2023 18:06:31 GMT -5
It was done deliberately but the "Villian with a tragic backstory" trope was subverted in The Boys by Soliderboy. After you get to feel a wee bit sorry for A-Train, Black Noir, and even Homelander after learning more about their background Soliderboy gives his origin story and it turns out he grew up rich with a distant father the worst thing he had to endure. The Boys and Homelander who listen to this story are very unimpressed from memory.
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Post by tirtefaa on Aug 4, 2023 18:17:56 GMT -5
That's basically every established cult character that they go back and give them a backstory. I genuinely believe my imagination does a better job of filling in the blanks than any backstory actually does.
I actually don't think there's a single one that I like, with maybe the exception of The Godfather Part II.
I think the most egregious example is the big screen version of Hannibal Lector. Worked very well in both Manhunter and Silence of the Lambs due to the isolated presence of his environment, and also not spending too much time on him. But Hannibal and Hannibal Rising were just absolutely terrible.
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Post by chrom on Aug 4, 2023 18:27:15 GMT -5
Anakin Skywalker before that, full stop. Disney-wise, not as bad as their other infamous example...MALEFICENT. Everything they’ve added to Anakin after Return of the Jedi until maybe the lightsaber battle in the Obi-wan show was disastrous. I really had to watch this awesome character whine through three movies and end up hearing James Earl Jones ask how f***ing Padme was. Gross and terrible and the worst. The Clone Wars series did a good job of building Anakin's gradual turn to the Dark Side.
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Post by Totorob101 on Aug 4, 2023 19:01:32 GMT -5
Im on to stranger things series 3 and they seemed to have suddenly made Hopper and Joyce somewhat a comedy couple almost,it is so odd to see and i found it weird after all thats happened to them that they have suddenly decided to act a bit silly even when there is still dangeours things happening.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 4, 2023 20:38:56 GMT -5
Gambit was killed as a major figure in comics after they explained away every shred of mystery he had. If you're going to flesh out the backstory of a popular man of mystery, you better bring your A-list talent to do it. This honestly is an issue in X-Men in general, moreso than most comics, which already have this issue to a degree. Gambit, Wolverine, Magneto, arguably Storm, Rogue, etc. Feels like every time they try to tell us more, it's just making the characters less interesting. Mystique is sort of a mixed bag in that I do think her status as Terrible Parent Figure makes her more interesting, but knowing how they wussed out with her on stuff like not having her father Rogue with Destiny does kind of kill some of the interest. She's a goddamn shapeshifter, after all, there's really no compelling reason they couldn't have done that, just Marvel's editorial team wussing out.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Aug 4, 2023 20:52:48 GMT -5
Gambit was killed as a major figure in comics after they explained away every shred of mystery he had. If you're going to flesh out the backstory of a popular man of mystery, you better bring your A-list talent to do it. This has nothing to do with anything, but I just recently found out that Gambit's brother Bobby was created exclusively for the 90's cartoon and wasn't actually a character in the comics. This revelation made me sad for some reason. What's even stranger is I could swear I remember him showing up in X-Men: Evolution as well, but apparently I was mistaken. Oh well, maybe Bobby LeBeau will put in an appearance in X-Men '97.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 4, 2023 22:34:32 GMT -5
the Xenomorphs.
They work better that they are just a species that exists... not as a crazy human made AI created them...
We don't need any lore for them... they're just a creepy alien.
this also works for basically any slasher villain...
the unknown is infinitely more terrifying than the known.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 4, 2023 22:36:51 GMT -5
Jaws 4 seeking revenge for the deaths of the other Jaws'
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Post by schma on Aug 4, 2023 23:28:55 GMT -5
Gambit was killed as a major figure in comics after they explained away every shred of mystery he had. If you're going to flesh out the backstory of a popular man of mystery, you better bring your A-list talent to do it. This honestly is an issue in X-Men in general, moreso than most comics, which already have this issue to a degree. Gambit, Wolverine, Magneto, arguably Storm, Rogue, etc. Feels like every time they try to tell us more, it's just making the characters less interesting. Mystique is sort of a mixed bag in that I do think her status as Terrible Parent Figure makes her more interesting, but knowing how they wussed out with her on stuff like not having her father Rogue with Destiny does kind of kill some of the interest. She's a goddamn shapeshifter, after all, there's really no compelling reason they couldn't have done that, just Marvel's editorial team wussing out. This is one that I'm surprised they haven't made canon. However, at the time they were considering it, they were still shackled to the comics code authority which pretty much full stopped anything that wasn't heteronormative.
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Post by CMWaters on Aug 5, 2023 0:55:48 GMT -5
Jaws 4 seeking revenge for the deaths of the other Jaws' Better or worse: the original voodoo curse plot point that made it into the novelization
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