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Post by Lance Uppercut on Aug 11, 2023 17:55:57 GMT -5
For some reason I was thinking of Law and Order criminal intent.
It got kind of messy around the end. They kept switching between the regular two detectives and some new detectives each week, then they wrote off one of the partners, bought her back and then wrote off the other detective. The lawyer and da were completely dropped. But I think the part that really had me scratching my head and stop watching was when they mention during one of the investigations that one of the reoccurring antagonists to the main cop was murdered off screen by someone else.
Also, it made me think of Brooklyn 99 when Madeline wunch was killed off despite off screen. They never did resolve why she and the captain hated each other so much. Was it really because of the gay thing ? Or was she scheming against him all along?
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Post by Feyrhausen on Aug 11, 2023 18:00:15 GMT -5
George Hearst. Deadwood.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Aug 11, 2023 18:37:29 GMT -5
……..I honestly don’t even remember what happened with him
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Post by Feyrhausen on Aug 11, 2023 18:46:43 GMT -5
……..I honestly don’t even remember what happened with him On the show? Nothing. He won and got everything he wanted. In the reunion movie? Dragged off to jail by his ear.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 11, 2023 18:50:30 GMT -5
One of the issues you run into with fictionalized versions of real people in a story that's kind of trying to present itself as plausible, I guess.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Aug 11, 2023 19:27:36 GMT -5
Cersi & Jamie Lannister in the show (not read the books yet so not sure if either had been offed or not.) version of game of thrones, in a show where characters get horrific endings that some what mirror what their characters do during the show, they get squished by falling ceiling bits. not poisoned, not murdered by angry citizens of the city they ruled over (one that Cersi blew part of it up with wild fire), not eaten by white walkers that got turned into a zombie trope towards the end, no revenge gained on either by anyone they crossed.. just "you rolled a 1, rocks fall.. you die.".
Crowley in Supernatural, in a show where no one ever stays dead he sacrifices himself to trap lucifer in an alternate dimension (fails) and that's it he's perma-dead. (technically he's a tweener and not an outright villain.)
Missy in Doctor Who, shot in the back by an earlier/later version of the Master (not sure if they clarified it as it's been a while since I watched this episode.) supposedly preventing regeneration.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 11, 2023 19:38:40 GMT -5
All the villains in the last season of Game of Thrones. Though at least the actual kill sequence of the Night King was really cool. Besides that, ehhhh.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Aug 11, 2023 21:45:55 GMT -5
Cersi & Jamie Lannister in the show (not read the books yet so not sure if either had been offed or not.) version of game of thrones, in a show where characters get horrific endings that some what mirror what their characters do during the show, they get squished by falling ceiling bits. not poisoned, not murdered by angry citizens of the city they ruled over (one that Cersi blew part of it up with wild fire), not eaten by white walkers that got turned into a zombie trope towards the end, no revenge gained on either by anyone they crossed.. just "you rolled a 1, rocks fall.. you die.". Unsatisfying, absolutely. But I do feel that one made sense in the grand scheme of the GoT world. Sometimes horrible people don’t always get what’s coming, and sometimes good people get horrible things they don’t deserve.
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Post by yokohamacpfc on Aug 12, 2023 0:14:07 GMT -5
Cersi & Jamie Lannister in the show (not read the books yet so not sure if either had been offed or not.) version of game of thrones, in a show where characters get horrific endings that some what mirror what their characters do during the show, they get squished by falling ceiling bits. not poisoned, not murdered by angry citizens of the city they ruled over (one that Cersi blew part of it up with wild fire), not eaten by white walkers that got turned into a zombie trope towards the end, no revenge gained on either by anyone they crossed.. just "you rolled a 1, rocks fall.. you die.". Crowley in Supernatural, in a show where no one ever stays dead he sacrifices himself to trap lucifer in an alternate dimension (fails) and that's it he's perma-dead. (technically he's a tweener and not an outright villain.) Missy in Doctor Who, shot in the back by an earlier/later version of the Master (not sure if they clarified it as it's been a while since I watched this episode.) supposedly preventing regeneration. Still alive in books but Cersei is driven mad by a childhood prophecy that she will be killed by her younger brother which is a contributing factor to her hatred of Tyrion who she believes is the brother in question. However it is stated in the books a few times Cersei is older than Jamie (by a minute) and he's gradually getting more and more sick of her shit. Should the books ever get written (LOL) I think the big man has a different fate in store for them. Oh, to answer OP's question: Jim Moriarty in Sherlock. He took the Reichenbach Falls plunge in Sherlock's subconscious but they should have found a better way to off him for real than "killing myself to own the bloke I fear might be cleverer than me."
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 12, 2023 0:19:43 GMT -5
Cersi & Jamie Lannister in the show (not read the books yet so not sure if either had been offed or not.) version of game of thrones, in a show where characters get horrific endings that some what mirror what their characters do during the show, they get squished by falling ceiling bits. not poisoned, not murdered by angry citizens of the city they ruled over (one that Cersi blew part of it up with wild fire), not eaten by white walkers that got turned into a zombie trope towards the end, no revenge gained on either by anyone they crossed.. just "you rolled a 1, rocks fall.. you die.". Crowley in Supernatural, in a show where no one ever stays dead he sacrifices himself to trap lucifer in an alternate dimension (fails) and that's it he's perma-dead. (technically he's a tweener and not an outright villain.) Missy in Doctor Who, shot in the back by an earlier/later version of the Master (not sure if they clarified it as it's been a while since I watched this episode.) supposedly preventing regeneration. Still alive in books but Cersei is driven mad by a childhood prophecy that she will be killed by her younger brother which is a contributing factor to her hatred of Tyrion who she believes is the brother in question. However it is stated in the books a few times Cersei is older than Jamie (by a minute) and he's gradually getting more and more sick of her shit. Should the books ever get written (LOL) I think the big man has a different fate in store for them. I’ve never cracked open one of the books, but I know Martin always considered Tyrion to be a villain. I wonder if Dinklage’s performance altered that mindset.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 12, 2023 0:31:01 GMT -5
60’s Joker was never attacked by a barrage of orange slices and it’s a damn shame.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 12, 2023 0:45:57 GMT -5
Still alive in books but Cersei is driven mad by a childhood prophecy that she will be killed by her younger brother which is a contributing factor to her hatred of Tyrion who she believes is the brother in question. However it is stated in the books a few times Cersei is older than Jamie (by a minute) and he's gradually getting more and more sick of her shit. Should the books ever get written (LOL) I think the big man has a different fate in store for them. I’ve never cracked open one of the books, but I know Martin always considered Tyrion to be a villain. I wonder if Dinklage’s performance altered that mindset. Even in the books, Tyrion's had some positive portrayals, but not having access to his inner monologue does sand some of the cynicism away, and his killing of Shae is sort-of "self-defense" show, but absolutely isn't in the books, where it's blatantly just murder.
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Post by schma on Aug 12, 2023 2:10:44 GMT -5
Cersi & Jamie Lannister in the show (not read the books yet so not sure if either had been offed or not.) version of game of thrones, in a show where characters get horrific endings that some what mirror what their characters do during the show, they get squished by falling ceiling bits. not poisoned, not murdered by angry citizens of the city they ruled over (one that Cersi blew part of it up with wild fire), not eaten by white walkers that got turned into a zombie trope towards the end, no revenge gained on either by anyone they crossed.. just "you rolled a 1, rocks fall.. you die.". Crowley in Supernatural, in a show where no one ever stays dead he sacrifices himself to trap lucifer in an alternate dimension (fails) and that's it he's perma-dead. (technically he's a tweener and not an outright villain.) Missy in Doctor Who, shot in the back by an earlier/later version of the Master (not sure if they clarified it as it's been a while since I watched this episode.) supposedly preventing regeneration. If I recall correctly the Master who shot Missy is in the process of turning into Missy. It was sort of a he shot himself in the back, look how clever we are situation.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Aug 12, 2023 4:53:33 GMT -5
One of the issues you run into with fictionalized versions of real people in a story that's kind of trying to present itself as plausible, I guess. Yeah they changed lots of stuff about most of the characters based on real people. But only so much you can change about people like Hearst or Hickock.
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Post by thechase on Aug 12, 2023 6:00:31 GMT -5
Missy in Doctor Who, shot in the back by an earlier/later version of the Master (not sure if they clarified it as it's been a while since I watched this episode.) supposedly preventing regeneration. Doctor Who fans LOVE that ending for Missy, as it was the culmination of her redemption arc (she had listened to the Twelfth Doctor's speech and had stabbed her earlier self). They were way more annoyed she/he came back in Jodie's era acting like an unrepentant villain again who wiped out the time lords out of frustration over learning The Doctor's origin
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Post by Zombie Mod on Aug 12, 2023 6:25:43 GMT -5
Missy in Doctor Who, shot in the back by an earlier/later version of the Master (not sure if they clarified it as it's been a while since I watched this episode.) supposedly preventing regeneration. Doctor Who fans LOVE that ending for Missy, as it was the culmination of her redemption arc (she had listened to the Twelfth Doctor's speech and had stabbed her earlier self). They were way more annoyed she/he came back in Jodie's era acting like an unrepentant villain again who wiped out the time lords out of frustration over learning The Doctor's origin it's another reason why the writing was sub par for jodie's doctor era. so much lore & character development just discarded for little reason. it's a shame as with another writer/show runner her era could have been truly amazing.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 12, 2023 16:43:52 GMT -5
Lindsay in Angel, assassinated by Lorne on Angel's orders, which was unsatisfying but also completely in keeping with the story being told. Lindsay was never the Big Bad, and by the fifth season had become a frenemy biding his time to double-cross Angel, so finding out Angel was two steps ahead and having a "flunky" take him out was an unexpected twist, but I think most people would have preferred to see Angel do the job himself.
Sela in Star Trek: The Next Generation was given a Vulcan nerve pinch by Data and left sleeping it off in her office, never to be seen or heard from again.
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Post by ace on Aug 12, 2023 17:06:03 GMT -5
Missy in Doctor Who, shot in the back by an earlier/later version of the Master (not sure if they clarified it as it's been a while since I watched this episode.) supposedly preventing regeneration. Doctor Who fans LOVE that ending for Missy, as it was the culmination of her redemption arc (she had listened to the Twelfth Doctor's speech and had stabbed her earlier self). They were way more annoyed she/he came back in Jodie's era acting like an unrepentant villain again who wiped out the time lords out of frustration over learning The Doctor's origin Yeah I loved the way Missy went out. Telling her younger self the Doctor is right…and the younger version killing her so he would never know it. That’s great stuff. I wasn’t that annoyed they brought the Master back because I liked the guy playing him a lot. Decades of tv watching has dulled the pain of things being rewritten. I’ll still love the moment I got for when I got it
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 12, 2023 17:26:14 GMT -5
In a way, Walter White. It was satisfying to us the viewer to see him free Jesse and go out in a blaze of gunfire, but in the eyes of the general public this dude that's escaped the law for so long is just killed by a stray bullet and that's it.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Aug 12, 2023 18:17:04 GMT -5
Missy in Doctor Who, shot in the back by an earlier/later version of the Master (not sure if they clarified it as it's been a while since I watched this episode.) supposedly preventing regeneration. Doctor Who fans LOVE that ending for Missy, as it was the culmination of her redemption arc (she had listened to the Twelfth Doctor's speech and had stabbed her earlier self). They were way more annoyed she/he came back in Jodie's era acting like an unrepentant villain again who wiped out the time lords out of frustration over learning The Doctor's origin There is a way to fix it, though. Say that the Saxon Master didn't regenerate into Missy. Make Sasha Dahwan's Master his direct successor and wibbly wobbly, timey wimey it so that Missy was the next incarnation. It's Doctor Who, they can fix stuff like that pretty easily.
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