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Post by bluebeach25 on Aug 20, 2023 8:40:20 GMT -5
How come Flair was never in the NWO? Or did i miss something?
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Aug 20, 2023 8:59:18 GMT -5
i don't think the NWO or Flair would've benefited from him joining at any point, he was also kind of a part timer for most of the NWO's biggest years
i just don't think anyone would've gotten anything from him joining the NWO
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Post by tirtefaa on Aug 20, 2023 9:06:49 GMT -5
That would have been terrible.
Flair in WCW by this point was never getting anything less than a favorable response from the audience no matter what he did as a heel or a face.
Flair was also injured for quite a while during the nWo's height.
WCW needed to feel like it had a counter balance to the nWo, so by adding every big name to the nWo, you only do yourself a disservice to the audience.
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Post by fg on Aug 20, 2023 10:27:29 GMT -5
That would have been terrible. Flair in WCW by this point was never getting anything less than a favorable response from the audience no matter what he did as a heel or a face. Flair was also injured for quite a while during the nWo's height. WCW needed to feel like it had a counter balance to the nWo, so by adding every big name to the nWo, you only do yourself a disservice to the audience. Eric Bischoff said on the old MNW DVD in 2003 that he felt he had to maintain two audiences. Ric resembled tradition and the legacy of what WCW was about while he was trying to expand that audience with the NWO. Eric: “Ric was there to maintain our core audience. He’s a legend.” Putting him in the NWO would’ve been bad. On a side note, Ric in response to what Eric said that I had written: “In Eric’s eyes, I’m not a legend.” |
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Post by Feyrhausen on Aug 20, 2023 11:16:49 GMT -5
NWO was the second era of WCW. The first was the old NWA WCW. Then Hogan came in and began the WWF invasion of WCW which peaked with the NWO. Goldberg should have ended that era by smashing the NWO and beginning the era of WCW originals. New stars and old stars reinvented (ex. Scott Steiner and DDP).
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 20, 2023 11:32:25 GMT -5
I actually had a strange dream about that a while back.
On Nitro, there was some backstage meeting Hogan had with all the members, then they all left out the door, with Flair suddenly showing up to "WOOOOO!" at the end.
He was already an afterthought, and there wasn't even a moment where Flair had joined the NWO prior to that like attacking Mongo or Benoit in the ring, for example.
Yeah, I think the reality would have sucked based on that.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 20, 2023 13:42:25 GMT -5
Someone had to be a lead face for WCW, it couldn't be carried by Luger and an injured Sting alone given the NWO had like 3 dozen members, Goldberg wasn't ready, DDP was relegated to busywork to keep Hogan away from the title and Hulk sure wasn't going to let Bret be a main eventer.
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Post by LiamMcDuggle on Aug 20, 2023 13:53:25 GMT -5
How come Flair was never in the NWO? Or did i miss something? nWo was anti NWA/WCW establishment. Flair WAS the establishment. They did the proper thing of Flair re-uniting the 4-Horsemen to take on the nWo, but like many other things in WCW, it was executed poorly. Also, in saying that, I do think the nWo burying everyone constantly made moments like Goldberg beating Hogan more special. I remember a lot of people thinking Hogan was going beat Goldberg on that Nitro |
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Post by nickcave on Aug 20, 2023 14:41:08 GMT -5
He would have sucked in it which is why they kept having his friends like Hennig and Windham turn on him and join for heat because he represented the “Old WCW Tradition” they were trying to kill.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Aug 20, 2023 16:36:11 GMT -5
He would have done no better than Dusty or Ted DiBiase in the NWO.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 21, 2023 14:30:36 GMT -5
The nWo had enough old man stink as it is.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 22, 2023 10:40:00 GMT -5
He would have done no better than Dusty or Ted DiBiase in the NWO. Dusty joining never made any sense; DiBiase at least did in the early run, before Bischoff joined, as the money behind the group. But Dusty was about as "tradition" as one could get in WCW at the time; the only time a dyed in the wool WCW/NWA guy joining the nWo made any sense was if they went through Sting being the third man in the event Hogan said no, since that would've at least been a genuine shock to help establish the group in the first place. Giant joining (since Bulldog jumping didn't happen when they expected), Dusty joining, any timeline where Flair joined, none of that worked/would have worked. Basically, the group should've been as much of a "WWF invasion" stable as possible for as long as possible, and only brought in WCW guys once they could play it up like "Hey, disgruntled WCW guys who want a shot to move up in the world, come join us" (e.g. basically what led to guys like Bagwell joining). |
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Post by tafkaga on Aug 22, 2023 11:48:37 GMT -5
Considering how stupid the NWO was, and how it didn't make any sense, Flair probably should have been in the NWO.
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Post by CMWaters on Aug 22, 2023 15:08:50 GMT -5
Later on though he briefly had control on who was in the nWo when he had Booker T join the group on Raw.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 22, 2023 22:30:51 GMT -5
He should have created a spin off called the nWooooooooooooo!
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Aug 22, 2023 22:44:05 GMT -5
He would have done no better than Dusty or Ted DiBiase in the NWO. Dusty joining never made any sense; DiBiase at least did in the early run, before Bischoff joined, as the money behind the group. But Dusty was about as "tradition" as one could get in WCW at the time; the only time a dyed in the wool WCW/NWA guy joining the nWo made any sense was if they went through Sting being the third man in the event Hogan said no, since that would've at least been a genuine shock to help establish the group in the first place. Giant joining (since Bulldog jumping didn't happen when they expected), Dusty joining, any timeline where Flair joined, none of that worked/would have worked. Basically, the group should've been as much of a "WWF invasion" stable as possible for as long as possible, and only brought in WCW guys once they could play it up like "Hey, disgruntled WCW guys who want a shot to move up in the world, come join us" (e.g. basically what led to guys like Bagwell joining). Doing this would make NWO trying to court Bret Hart to join them after Montrreal make more sense... as well as Bret going against the NWO because he realizes the group's affiliation with the Kliq. |
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Aug 22, 2023 23:18:13 GMT -5
Not everyone could have been in the nWo. They need some guys to be loyal to the WCW brand, and Flair was THE WCW guy.
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Post by wildojinx on Aug 23, 2023 9:07:23 GMT -5
What's with all these "_____ in the NWO" threads lately? And I'm just as guilty as I posted about the potential of Sherri in the NWO.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 23, 2023 9:22:21 GMT -5
He at least teamed with a member one time:  |
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