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Post by cyrusthevirus on Sept 1, 2023 12:41:30 GMT -5
x.com/luchablog/status/1697658762742374504?s=46&t=xOWyPQi97Jk0FfnxjJsGHgProbably not but it’s really weird how he never books any of them to win a singles match besides the occasional Andrade and Rush victory. They are both rarely featured on any important storylines regardless. It seems he just uses them to open matches like your stereotypical WCW show from 1996
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Post by mrpeacock on Sept 1, 2023 12:46:12 GMT -5
That’s only counting Dynamite so it’s not like a super fair statement. I’m not saying it’s much better but Andrade has had some traction.
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Post by Denny Zen on Sept 1, 2023 13:39:49 GMT -5
Quite the opposite, I think. AEW gives more luchadors more exposure in big matches than any American company ever really has. This year alone, Bandito, Kommander, Rey Fenix, Vikingo, Dralistico, Penta, RUSH, Andrade, and Gravity have all had extremely prominent TV matches for the company. On the women's side, Thunder Rosa was arguably pushed more strongly than anyone prior to her injury.
I think the issue is that, for the majority of its existence, AEW's luchadors have also been under contract/had obligations to other companies like AAA, or gotten involved in backstage issues that have made them difficult to push (in the case of Andrade).
If guys like RUSH and Rey Fenix don't start getting pushed more prominently now that they are exclusively signed to AEW, I think this could potentially be a fair conversation, but not right now.
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Post by GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY on Sept 1, 2023 13:41:06 GMT -5
ok. this is a serious topic I think but I’m losing it at that thread title
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 1, 2023 13:45:35 GMT -5
Quite the opposite, I think. AEW gives more luchadors more exposure in big matches than any American company ever really has. This year alone, Bandito, Kommander, Rey Fenix, Vikingo, Dralistico, Penta, RUSH, Andrade, and Gravity have all had extremely prominent TV matches for the company. On the women's side, Thunder Rosa was arguably pushed more strongly than anyone prior to her injury. I think the issue is that, for the majority of its existence, AEW's luchadors have also been under contract/had obligations to other companies like AAA, or gotten involved in backstage issues that have made them difficult to push (in the case of Andrade). If guys like RUSH and Rey Fenix don't start getting pushed more prominently now that they are exclusively signed to AEW, I think this could potentially be a fair conversation, but not right now. And not to say their tag title run didn't kind of underwhelm on a booking front, but Fenix and Penta as the company's biggest male Mexican wrestlers have tag and trios titles reigns under their belts, were the guys who the Young Bucks reign of terror ultimately put over, and they are regularly featured as credible talents. |
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Post by Killah Ray on Sept 1, 2023 13:49:14 GMT -5
He’s giving lucha libre it’s biggest mainstream audience since late 90s WCW…so I’m gonna say no….
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Post by Chiral on Sept 1, 2023 13:53:09 GMT -5
ok. this is a serious topic I think but I’m losing it at that thread title It has me picturing a clickbait vid but with the title in the "DOES HE KNOW" font |
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Post by GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY on Sept 1, 2023 13:55:02 GMT -5
ok. this is a serious topic I think but I’m losing it at that thread title It has me picturing a clickbait vid but with the title in the "DOES HE KNOW" font Wrestlelamia: “Tony Khan - NOT A BIG FAN OF THE MEXICANS ⁉️” |
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Post by Kalmia on Sept 1, 2023 13:56:58 GMT -5
ok. this is a serious topic I think but I’m losing it at that thread title It brings up images of that awful JBL angle when he was "patrolling" the border. |
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Post by Cyno on Sept 1, 2023 14:13:53 GMT -5
Dralistico killed a whole bunch of ninjas. You tell me.
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Post by jm on Sept 1, 2023 14:14:11 GMT -5
"Tony Khan doesn't book a wrestler the way I want them to be booked, so therefore he's a racist/sexist/etc" has got to be the biggest eye rolling argument in all of modern wrestling.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 1, 2023 14:22:52 GMT -5
It has me picturing a clickbait vid but with the title in the "DOES HE KNOW" font Wrestlelamia: “Tony Khan - NOT A BIG FAN OF THE MEXICANS ⁉️”  |
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Post by cyrusthevirus on Sept 1, 2023 15:11:16 GMT -5
"Tony Khan doesn't book a wrestler the way I want them to be booked, so therefore he's a racist/sexist/etc" has got to be the biggest eye rolling argument in all of modern wrestling. Well, I don’t think you hear much of the disrespect these talented luchadors face from a booking standpoint. Not even a throw away win here or there. All losses. It’s something and it shouldn’t be ignored. Which I also think is funny that he got AAA to put the Latin American title on QT Marshall so he can beat up on more Mexicans weekly for Tony |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 1, 2023 15:23:24 GMT -5
Oh that's where this thread is going okay
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Post by cyrusthevirus on Sept 1, 2023 15:27:59 GMT -5
Oh that's where this thread is going okay Feel free to remind me of a time where a Mexican wrestling star in AEW got anything worth a damn from a singles run. Besides the usual “brother vs brother” match |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 1, 2023 15:30:07 GMT -5
Oh that's where this thread is going okay Feel free to remind me of a time where a Mexican wrestling star in AEW got anything worth a damn from a singles run. Besides the usual “brother vs brother” match "Tony Khan is booking other promotions' titles onto QT Marshall to vicariously beat up Mexicans through him" is not a well reasoned discussion on AEW's booking. |
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Post by cyrusthevirus on Sept 1, 2023 15:34:25 GMT -5
Feel free to remind me of a time where a Mexican wrestling star in AEW got anything worth a damn from a singles run. Besides the usual “brother vs brother” match "Tony Khan is booking other promotions' titles onto QT Marshall to vicariously beat up Mexicans through him" is not a well reasoned discussion on AEW's booking. Combined with 18 straight losses on dynamite. That should bring up some red flags. And I’m not saying for certain this is true. That’s why I made the thread. Some people have brought up some good points and that could very well be the reason. But it’s very odd to have that many losses in that span of time. |
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Post by Mid-Carder on Sept 1, 2023 15:35:40 GMT -5
Mexican wrestlers to Tony Khan - "do we have a problem here?"
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Post by jm on Sept 1, 2023 15:37:04 GMT -5
"Tony Khan is booking other promotions' titles onto QT Marshall to vicariously beat up Mexicans through him" is not a well reasoned discussion on AEW's booking. Combined with 18 straight losses on dynamite. That should bring up some red flags It's mighty convenient that you've moved the goalposts to "singles wrestlers" only. Maybe because if someone was to mention the multiple times that, for example, the Lucha Bros have been Tag Champs, it would totally destroy your argument. |
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Post by cyrusthevirus on Sept 1, 2023 15:39:37 GMT -5
Combined with 18 straight losses on dynamite. That should bring up some red flags It's mighty convenient that you've moved the goalposts to "singles wrestlers" only. Maybe because if someone was to mention the multiple times that, for example, the Lucha Bros have been Tag Champs, it would totally destroy your argument. Just because he books one of the best tag teams in wrestling well doesn’t mean we should give him a pat on the back and move on. Yes, the Lucha Bros are amazing and they deserve to be on top. That has nothing to do with this topic. Why does having a discussion about this bother you so much? |
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