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Post by mrpeacock on Sept 2, 2023 7:35:09 GMT -5
Looks like another AEW originals contract may have run out quietly. I saw on Reddit that Sonny had her page taken off of the AEW website.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 2, 2023 7:58:30 GMT -5
For f***'s sake
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Post by lucas_lee on Sept 2, 2023 8:17:36 GMT -5
I mentioned what mightve happened in the contracts page.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 2, 2023 9:18:52 GMT -5
This f***ing sucks but it was only a matter of time, AEW just never had a single thing for Sonny and the will to find something wasn't there. I don't know if there was a grudge, I don't know if someone was down on him and tanked something, but Sonny was the kind of 'different' person in wrestling who AEW could have put their money where their mouth was about giving a real chance to. Really hard not to feel like the ball was dropped massively.
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Post by BorneAgain on Sept 2, 2023 9:24:02 GMT -5
After a time it felt like Sonny was someone that the company liked having more because it made them look good than having any actually plans for Kiss. Especially once Dark/Elevation were de-emphasized, SK fell into the that category of first year year signings that AEW would quietly let go since they've signed people they're more interested in since.
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Post by CeilingFan on Sept 2, 2023 9:25:51 GMT -5
Griff Garrison is still there.
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Post by lucas_lee on Sept 2, 2023 10:05:23 GMT -5
I'll just re-post what I said in the contracts thread:
Sonny used to be my neighbor and their mom would always tell someone at the top (not TK, said TK tried to plea on their behalf) had it out for them because of how they looked (they're not a fan of how Sonny presents themselves with femine pronouns). I never asked Sonny myself because I didn't want to bother them on their day off. But that honestly might be why we didn't see them on TV. EDIT: Sonny and their mom moved recently so I won't get anymore info.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 2, 2023 10:19:16 GMT -5
I had heard and posted a similar thing a few years ago. Heard that Turner execs were not fans of Sonny's look (also heard similar things about Abadon) I'm not the biggest fan of Sonny, but it really does suck that they never really got a chance.
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Post by Hypnosis on Sept 2, 2023 10:21:05 GMT -5
I had heard and posted a similar thing a few years ago. Heard that Turner execs were not fans of Sonny's look (also heard similar things about Abadon) I'm not the biggest fan of Sonny, but it really does suck that they never really got a chance. Yet Turner (or WBD) was okay with Leatherface showing up.
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Post by Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000 on Sept 2, 2023 10:22:38 GMT -5
At least we know it might not be a Tony Khan issue.
The execs sound like a buncha bitches.
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Post by lucas_lee on Sept 2, 2023 10:23:32 GMT -5
I had heard and posted a similar thing a few years ago. Heard that Turner execs were not fans of Sonny's look (also heard similar things about Abadon) I'm not the biggest fan of Sonny, but it really does suck that they never really got a chance. Basically this. From my understanding of things they didn't like Sonny's attire and the fact Sonny was wrestling men. TK adored Sonny and tried his best to help because I asked Sonnys mom if it was TK. But you gotta answer to the ones who give you TV time.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 2, 2023 10:24:49 GMT -5
I'd have at least put her in ROH away from the reach of Turner execs, in that case. Something.
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Post by lucas_lee on Sept 2, 2023 10:30:16 GMT -5
I'd have at least put her in ROH away from the reach of Turner execs, in that case. Something. Only problem was Sonny signed a full-time AEW contract so can't hide them in ROH since it was before ROH was purchased by TK. But I might be wrong.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 2, 2023 10:31:36 GMT -5
I had heard and posted a similar thing a few years ago. Heard that Turner execs were not fans of Sonny's look (also heard similar things about Abadon) I'm not the biggest fan of Sonny, but it really does suck that they never really got a chance. Basically this. From my understanding of things they didn't like Sonny's attire and the fact Sonny was wrestling men. TK adored Sonny and tried his best to help because I asked Sonnys mom if it was TK. But you gotta answer to the ones who give you TV time. tk doesn't strike me as the guy that would have issue with that, but I believe him trying to focus less on " non tradional man and woman" because of bigness. That would also explain his sheer refusal to not use joshi
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 2, 2023 10:33:15 GMT -5
I'd have at least put her in ROH away from the reach of Turner execs, in that case. Something. Only problem was Sonny signed a full-time AEW contract so can't hide them in ROH since it was before ROH was purchased by TK. But I might be wrong. I mean more now. Like how Colt was offered the ROH coaching gig after his contract ran out and Tony wasn't going to renew. Just letting Sonny go entirely seems like a crappy outcome, and given WBD's utter disinterest in ROH, it would have been a nice place to keep employing and maybe even, y'know, push Sonny.
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Post by Viking Hall on Sept 2, 2023 12:01:43 GMT -5
Hopefully it works out well for Sonny, because the talent is definitely there. He was super-over in GCW a couple of years back and I notice he's booked on Big Gay Brunch so that's a good sign that the journey isn't over yet.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Sept 2, 2023 12:20:05 GMT -5
Never been a fan but if the rumored reason is true I hate that for them. I figured Abadon was because TK was never much a fan of the mystic, otherworldly type characters.
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Post by jm on Sept 2, 2023 13:03:53 GMT -5
At least we know it might not be a Tony Khan issue. The execs sound like a buncha bitches.You mean the same execs who still ran Dana White's slapfight show literally days after he was caught on camera slapping his wife, might in fact be a buncha bitches??? Ya don't say.
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Post by jm on Sept 2, 2023 13:14:13 GMT -5
So if this rumor is true, let's do a little review.
Jay Briscoe: says something horrible years ago, apologizes for it and actively works to be a better person and even befriends people in the LGBTQ community = not allowed to appear on TV
Sonny Kiss: lives their own lifestyle and is popular with the fanbase = not allowed to appear on TV
Dana White: has a slap-fighting show and is caught on camera slapping his own wife in the face = show goes on as normal just a few days later
I think these WBD execs might be kinda dumbasses.
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Post by Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000 on Sept 2, 2023 13:15:44 GMT -5
So if this rumor is true, let's do a little review. Jay Briscoe: says something horrible years ago, apologizes for it and actively works to be a better person and even befriends people in the LGBTQ community = not allowed to appear on TV Sonny Kiss: lives their own lifestyle and is popular with the fanbase = not allowed to appear on TV Dana White: has a slap-fighting show and is caught on camera slapping his own wife in the face = show goes on as normal just a few days later I think these WBD execs might be kinda dumbasses. Buncha bitches.
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