The biggest problem about Toni Storm vs Saraya

[taytay111]

Toni can't use her finisher if they were to feud, this could be a big roadblock because Toni doesn't have another finisher or even another established match winning move, so if they do start feuding, it's going to be hard when you know that Saraya isn't going to be taking Storm Zero

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

since she just changed her gimmick, people will think there’s a chance she also gets a new finisher or nails her with the shoe

it’ll be fine

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

I think Toni will be fine, and so will Saraya

I know Toni's moves look like death but I imagine Saraya would be protected if they did the hip attack or Storm Zero

That being said she has a completely new gimmick and personality right now, her having a new finisher isn't out of the question

[taytay111]

Sept 7, 2023 2:07:19 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

since she just changed her gimmick, people will think there’s a chance she also gets a new finisher or nails her with the shoe

it’ll be fine

I can see the shoe but if they are going to be feuding long, atleast two matches, they can only use that once or twice because if Toni lays Saraya out, she really doesn't have much to do it with. And I think the fans would catch on during matches if Toni set Saraya up in between her legs but never actually hit/was able to hit the Storm Zero

[taytay111]

Sept 7, 2023 2:11:22 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

I think Toni will be fine, and so will Saraya

I know Toni's moves look like death but I imagine Saraya would be protected if they did the hip attack or Storm Zero

That being said she has a completely new gimmick and personality right now, her having a new finisher isn't out of the question

Definitely not, she very well could come up with something new but the Storm Zero has been her only finisher her whole career besides WWE where it was more of a Tiger Driver.

Saraya said in an article she's being careful with her neck and won't be out there taking Piledrivers and Brainbusters and other moves like that so I would have to think the Storm Zero is completely off the table

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Sept 7, 2023 2:16:37 GMT -5 taytay111 said:

Sept 7, 2023 2:07:19 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

since she just changed her gimmick, people will think there’s a chance she also gets a new finisher or nails her with the shoe

it’ll be fine

I can see the shoe but if they are going to be feuding long, atleast two matches, they can only use that once or twice because if Toni lays Saraya out, she really doesn't have much to do it with. And I think the fans would catch on during matches if Toni set Saraya up in between her legs but never actually hit/was able to hit the Storm Zero

they could give her something that better suits the gimmick, like a submission that allows them to really zoom in on how crazy she sells it

shit if I was them I’d do that and have Toni screaming give me my close up or something, there’s a lot you can do and it’s not like storm zero is the greatest finisher out there even if it does look painful as hell

[taytay111]

Sept 7, 2023 2:18:59 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

Sept 7, 2023 2:16:37 GMT -5 taytay111 said:

I can see the shoe but if they are going to be feuding long, atleast two matches, they can only use that once or twice because if Toni lays Saraya out, she really doesn't have much to do it with. And I think the fans would catch on during matches if Toni set Saraya up in between her legs but never actually hit/was able to hit the Storm Zero

they could give her something that better suits the gimmick, like a submission that allows them to really zoom in on how crazy she sells it

shit if I was them I’d do that and have Toni screaming give me my close up or something, there’s a lot you can do and it’s not like storm zero is the greatest finisher out there even if it does look painful as hell

You know I've always preferred the old way she did it. The way she does Storm Zero nowadays is kind of weak. They fall like what, 2-3 feet onto their head? Before she would let them get their legs up and hold them there vertically a bit before spiking them. Then sometime in 2017 in Stardom she switched to the quick sit out style she does now.

[Numero Dos]

I wonder if Saraya could take the cutter Toni did for a few weeks in WWE? Saraya isn’t the tallest or heaviest so they should be able to make it look good and I always liked it better than Storm Zero anyway. Am I misremembering or did Toni also get a couple of submission wins in AEW with a Texas Cloverleaf type move?

I’d quite like her to go with something completely new to fit the new gimmick- which I’m loving by the way.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Sept 7, 2023 4:52:37 GMT -5 Numero Dos said:

I wonder if Saraya could take the cutter Toni did for a few weeks in WWE? Saraya isn’t the tallest or heaviest so they should be able to make it look good and I always liked it better than Storm Zero anyway. Am I misremembering or did Toni also get a couple of submission wins in AEW with a Texas Cloverleaf type move?

I’d quite like her to go with something completely new to fit the new gimmick- which I’m loving by the way.

I wouldn’t risk it, it relies so much on a grip around the neck for the move’s leverage, so it’s probably a no go with Saraya.

[King (Super) Dragunov]

Sept 7, 2023 2:18:59 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

Sept 7, 2023 2:16:37 GMT -5 taytay111 said:

I can see the shoe but if they are going to be feuding long, atleast two matches, they can only use that once or twice because if Toni lays Saraya out, she really doesn't have much to do it with. And I think the fans would catch on during matches if Toni set Saraya up in between her legs but never actually hit/was able to hit the Storm Zero

they could give her something that better suits the gimmick, like a submission that allows them to really zoom in on how crazy she sells it

shit if I was them I’d do that and have Toni screaming give me my close up or something, there’s a lot you can do and it’s not like storm zero is the greatest finisher out there even if it does look painful as hell

I wish Toni was using the move that Darby submitted Nick Wayne with on Dynamite as her finisher.

Can you imagine her locking an opponent in that just screaming her damn head off?!

[polarbearpete]

You don’t need a finishing move to end the match, can always use a roll up finish, introduce a submission, etc. That’s if Storm is even going to win.

[ben:friendship frog]

I really wish Toni kept using the Ruby Cutter, was awesome to see Allmark's influence on the big stage.

The submission idea isn't a bad idea but I feel babyfaces tap out way too often these days. If she was to use a submission though, the octopus stretch could work well.

[taytay111]

Sept 7, 2023 18:20:54 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

I really wish Toni kept using the Ruby Cutter, was awesome to see Allmark's influence on the big stage.

The submission idea isn't a bad idea but I feel babyfaces tap out way too often these days. If she was to use a submission though, the octopus stretch could work well.

Was that that twisting spinning DDT/Cutter she did on Smackdown for a bit? I think that could be risky if the woman taking it doesn't take it perfectly well each time because the impact point and grip point is the neck and that and Saraya definitely are not compatible.

I was thinking if anything she could go back to the Tiger Driver

[ben:friendship frog]

Sept 7, 2023 20:09:09 GMT -5 taytay111 said:

Sept 7, 2023 18:20:54 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

I really wish Toni kept using the Ruby Cutter, was awesome to see Allmark's influence on the big stage.

The submission idea isn't a bad idea but I feel babyfaces tap out way too often these days. If she was to use a submission though, the octopus stretch could work well.

Was that that twisting spinning DDT/Cutter she did on Smackdown for a bit? I think that could be risky if the woman taking it doesn't take it perfectly well each time because the impact point and grip point is the neck and that and Saraya definitely are not compatible.

I was thinking if anything she could go back to the Tiger Driver

That's the one. Granted I'm no in ring expert but I think if the person taking it knows what they're doing (basically flipping backwards to a front bump), it should be pretty safe. Could completely understand if Saraya didn't want to risk it though.

[J is Justice]

Her new finisher should be a Big Boot Shoe.

[4real]

Why the heck would Toni beat Saraya? Her gimic only works if she continues losing. More losing, more becoming unhinged.

Saraya is keeping the belt warm for Mercedes surely.

[asuka007]

Didn’t Toni beat Skye Blue in their title match with a submission hold?

Just use that again maybe.

[I'm Team Bayley and Indi]

The biggest problem for me about Toni Storm vs Saraya is that it involves Saraya

[Doo Doo Dickhead]

The biggest problem is I don't want to see them fight because green girls have to stick together!!!! 😭

[Nosnorb]

Sept 9, 2023 11:22:13 GMT -5 Doo Doo Dickhead said:

The biggest problem is I don't want to see them fight because green girls have to stick together!!!! 😭

But Toni and Saraya have been wrestling for years..........