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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 10, 2023 16:59:19 GMT -5
I know he's a big idiot but: Ryback saved John Cena multiple times from Shield beatdowns so he was perfectly justified in being pissed off that Cena never did the same for him. The really infuriating thing about that is that they had a segment that had the perfect chance to turn it around and opted to do it exactly the wrong way, where Cena came out while the Shield had Ryback surrounded... and then just turned and left him there. Cena saving him and Ryback still holding a grudge anyway would've immediately made it clear who the actual bad guy was.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Sept 11, 2023 22:38:28 GMT -5
Remember when the great khaki offered big show a goat as a peace offering and big show attacked him after lmao Same with Show when he offered Taker a puppy and had Kanyon sing to him only to get his ass kicked for it. Kanyon: does some mediocre singing Taker: performs a genuine hate crime Who can say who's the real villain here?
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Sept 13, 2023 5:56:01 GMT -5
Sid Justice being a heel for fairly eliminating Hogan from the Rumble.Bad News Brown for not liking snakes. Ted Dibiase for buying Sapphire gifts, and Sapphire for accepting them, not wanting to face Sensational Sherri, and leaving Dusty Rhodes. I think with Sid Justice, we were suppose to boo him for not helping Hogan eliminate Flair so it would be down to those two and see who the better man was, he just snuck behind him and eliminated him. If it came down to Hogan and Sid and Sid eliminated him, Hogan would then shake his hand and leave it at that. The problem is the ending was poorly executed. Not to mention Hogan was named the #1 contender for Flair's championship, when Sid was the runner up and had a legit grievance for being pissed. On the whole the entire situation was just: BOGUS!!!
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Sept 13, 2023 9:22:08 GMT -5
When a Heel is a now reformed ex-felon who has been the victim of child abuse.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Sept 13, 2023 10:10:25 GMT -5
Sid Justice being a heel for fairly eliminating Hogan from the Rumble.Bad News Brown for not liking snakes. Ted Dibiase for buying Sapphire gifts, and Sapphire for accepting them, not wanting to face Sensational Sherri, and leaving Dusty Rhodes. I think with Sid Justice, we were suppose to boo him for not helping Hogan eliminate Flair so it would be down to those two and see who the better man was, he just snuck behind him and eliminated him. If it came down to Hogan and Sid and Sid eliminated him, Hogan would then shake his hand and leave it at that. The problem is the ending was poorly executed. Not to mention Hogan was named the #1 contender for Flair's championship, when Sid was the runner up and had a legit grievance for being pissed. I think with Ted Dibiase buying Sapphire, it meant she had a price and Ted Dibiase was a dick anyway, so her now aligning with him made her guilty by association. I'll never understand why they just didn't have Hogan go to clothesline Flair, he ducks and Hogan clotheslines Justice out, then have Hogan go for the "No hard feelings" handshake and have Flair dump Hogan while they're doing that. You can have weeks of speculation as to whether or not Justice pulled on Hulk. Hogan is clearly the babyface in that scenario and Justice has reasonable doubt for a few weeks to set up the turn. Instead they went with what they did which made Hogan look like a doofus crybaby.
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Post by schma on Sept 13, 2023 10:23:17 GMT -5
Being from Ontario I can saying being from Toronto you probably deserve to be bood. Yeah it always makes me laugh when WWE would put on a show outside Toronto and think a heel would get heat dogging on the Leafs like they're not the most hated NHL franchise in the rest of Canada or something. It's probably because Vince is old. To a lot of 50+ Canadians, the Maple Leafs are Canada's team. This was a group that grew up in the era of the Original 6 and many of them cheered for the Leafs as a result. I am no Leafs fan, but they do actually have a lot of older fans. I think younger generations though have grown up with more Canadian teams and as such, you'll likely see that demographic shift. However, there will still be some because kids will grow up with their parents supporting the Leafs and go for it because reasons.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 13, 2023 10:35:59 GMT -5
Tugboat becoming Typhoon because he was rightly sick of Hogan being ungrateful and never being there for him when he needed help.
Zeus correctly thinking of himself as the real star of No Holds Barred.
Rick Rude for genuinely having a better physique than anyone else.
Nailz for claiming that the former sadistic heel Big Boss Man abused him in Cobb County prison.
Scott Steiner for turning on his brother, the guy who thought he was a dog.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Sept 14, 2023 11:42:54 GMT -5
Mick Foley was upset at a fan advocating that Mick’s toddler son should be beaten with a cane and wanted to help Tommy Dreamer get a safer, better-paying job with WCW.
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Post by Pipe_Bomb2k13 on Sept 17, 2023 6:28:19 GMT -5
Wasn't the reason for Truth turning on Morrison because he took a water break in a gauntlet or something like that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2023 8:16:32 GMT -5
It doesn't completely fit here but its absolutely wild (and sadly hilarious) how amazing Christian is now, today, as a heel and how much Vince hated him just because of his face prior to the point he pitched putting a blue dot over his face...
Imagine how that would have went down on TV
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Post by bob on Sept 17, 2023 9:24:20 GMT -5
Ludvig Borga didn't like pollution and was a foreigner
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 17, 2023 10:07:34 GMT -5
Ludvig Borga didn't like pollution and was a foreigner The pollution thing was another RD exaggeration. I think he only did it in one promo. Or a few at most. It's like people who remember The Raccoons as an environmental show.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Sept 17, 2023 10:24:57 GMT -5
For me, the Eve Torres heel turn will always be one of the best worst heel turns of all time. Girl got Hogan at Bash at the Beach boos for putting Zack Ryder in the "friend zone".
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Post by MrElijah on Sept 18, 2023 18:44:21 GMT -5
Sting(w/Luger) beating the shit out of Ric Flair during his WCW heel run. Like if anyone deserves to whip Flair's ass off of GP, it's Sting.
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Sept 18, 2023 18:59:36 GMT -5
The entire New Blood in WCW for not wanting to be stuck in the shadows of older, more established but less talented wrestlers who employed politics to keep undeserved spots at the top of the card.
(Not that I'm necessarily saying The Cat was better than Ric Flair, he certainly wasn't, but in general...)
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 19, 2023 2:16:48 GMT -5
The entire New Blood in WCW for not wanting to be stuck in the shadows of older, more established but less talented wrestlers who employed politics to keep undeserved spots at the top of the card. (Not that I'm necessarily saying The Cat was better than Ric Flair, he certainly wasn't, but in general...) Thing is, in kayfabe... those spots aren't undeserved. If you're a smart fan, sure. But on screen, it was a load of young guys who hadn't done much, saying these popular, successful world champions should step aside because... At least on screen, it's a meritocracy, you want to be champion, you challenge and beat them, not get a gang together to moan about it, unless you're a heel.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 21, 2023 23:45:03 GMT -5
Wasn't the reason for Truth turning on Morrison because he took a water break in a gauntlet or something like that. It's even worse. There was the water break, and also John Morrison mocking him for being a smoker in addition to that and saying it must be why he had supposedly bad conditioning, and not R-Truth being like near 10 years older than him. All of this being while interrupting R-Truth cutting a promo about being happy to win a title match against John Cena, a title shot Morrison was egging him into putting on the line against Morrison, and when Morrison beat him, he seemed... surprised R-Truth beat the shit out of him, and then later prevented Morrison from winning that title match. Like, what the hell did he think was going to happen? For his part, Morrison tried to play innocent and say he was just ribbing R-Truth, but no, they wrote him acting like a huge piece of shit and Truth was justified in being furious and insulted.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Sept 22, 2023 14:10:41 GMT -5
Ludvig Borga didn't like pollution and was a foreigner There actually was a really good reason to not like the guy but I don't think it was ever brought up on TV
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Post by Rubix Cube Johnny on Sept 22, 2023 15:00:34 GMT -5
Anyone remember the VERY shortly lived Eugene heel turn? They wanted the fans to basically start chanting ableist insults at the character. Christ. ... Yeah in regards to Vince;
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Sept 22, 2023 17:06:49 GMT -5
Anyone remember the VERY shortly lived Eugene heel turn? They wanted the fans to basically start chanting ableist insults at the character. Christ. ... Yeah in regards to Vince; Maybe I'm just awful, but Eugene being Cringy and trying to get Women Wrestlers to hug him because he was "Special" made me laugh really hard
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