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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 15, 2023 8:22:35 GMT -5
On the one hand, I have little interest in a Starfleet Academy show, especially one set in the 32nd century, but if Tawny Newsome can bring some Lower Decks magic – which I was similarly uninterested in until I saw the finished product – then it could be good.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 15, 2023 8:46:25 GMT -5
Can't really claim to be at all interested in the setting or premise, but Lower Decks looked like ass in its preview material too (and first couple episodes) so worth a shot I guess.
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Post by malloc on Oct 15, 2023 9:27:04 GMT -5
Saved by the Bell: IN SPACE!
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Post by ace on Oct 15, 2023 9:48:40 GMT -5
Saved by the Bell: IN SPACE! Starfleet Academy is in San Fransisco not space. Don’t make me be a nerd this early on a weekend. |
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Post by ace on Oct 15, 2023 9:49:42 GMT -5
Anyway….this should literally be Police Academy where citizens are forced to enlist against their will and really shake up the system
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Oct 15, 2023 10:00:29 GMT -5
Should be an interesting show for sure, though I just want them to greenlight a Star Trek Legacy show based off the ending of Picard.
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Post by malloc on Oct 15, 2023 12:29:51 GMT -5
Saved by the Bell: IN SPACE! Starfleet Academy is in San Fransisco not space. Don’t make me be a nerd this early on a weekend. You can't fight what you are...... you frickin NERD. (Also I was thinking of the old PC game when I wrote that which is a space combat sim.) |
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 15, 2023 16:47:04 GMT -5
Angels and ministers of grace, defend us.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Oct 15, 2023 17:07:07 GMT -5
Every single thing Alex Kurtzman touches turns to shit. He's demonstrated time and again he lacks the faculties needed to even watch Star Trek, much less try to create one.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 15, 2023 17:42:03 GMT -5
Every single thing Alex Kurtzman touches turns to shit. The near-universally beloved status of Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, Prodigy and (one-third of) Picard suggests otherwise. Discovery is an uneven mess with as many poor episodes as good, and the first two seasons of Picard wasted good premises, but overall Kurtzman has had more hits in charge of Star Trek than he's had misses. |
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 15, 2023 22:35:45 GMT -5
I will check it out, but the only Star Trek I have actually enjoyed is Strange New Worlds. For someone who didn't know much of Star Trek beyond the basics, it was extremely newcomer friendly--unlike Picard, and was actually good, unlike Discovery.
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Post by eJm on Oct 15, 2023 22:41:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I’m just going to disagree with people who think someone who helped give birth to shows that made Star Trek cool again in my eyes (as mentioned with SNW, Lower Decks, Prodigy) is someone who has the “everything he touches turns to shit” effect.
And I liked Discovery so, you know, I’m going to defend that for the most part (except the arc of Season 3, which I’m pretty sure everyone involved agreed with since it’s only talked about begrudgingly in Season 4) so I’m going to be excited about a new Starfleet Academy based on that era rather than retreading the ground other shows have done.
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Post by Cyno on Oct 15, 2023 22:55:21 GMT -5
The first two seasons of Strange New Worlds is better than the first two seasons of any other Trek show except for maybe TOS. I trust in Kurtzman.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 15, 2023 23:02:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I’m just going to disagree with people who think someone who helped give birth to shows that made Star Trek cool again in my eyes (as mentioned with SNW, Lower Decks, Prodigy) is someone who has the “everything he touches turns to shit” effect. And I liked Discovery so, you know, I’m going to defend that for the most part (except the arc of Season 3, which I’m pretty sure everyone involved agreed with since it’s only talked about begrudgingly in Season 4) so I’m going to be excited about a new Starfleet Academy based on that era rather than retreading the ground other shows have done. Prodigy managed to make Okona entertaining. The franchise is in a very good place right now besides the dangling blade that is Paramount being bad with money. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 15, 2023 23:22:04 GMT -5
The first two seasons of Strange New Worlds is better than the first two seasons of any other Trek show except for maybe TOS. I trust in Kurtzman. I'll go so far as to say Strange New Worlds is the best first two seasons of any Star Trek. Period. TOS' first two seasons have some bangers, but a lot of uttter dreck filler as well. The upside of having only ten episodes per season is there's no space for filler. I wouldn't mind three or four more episodes per season, but I'm greedy. |
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Oct 16, 2023 3:15:09 GMT -5
Every single thing Alex Kurtzman touches turns to shit. The near-universally beloved status of Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, Prodigy and (one-third of) Picard suggests otherwise. Discovery is an uneven mess with as many poor episodes as good, and the first two seasons of Picard wasted good premises, but overall Kurtzman has had more hits in charge of Star Trek than he's had misses. Yes it does! It suggests that differing people hold differing opinions. I see Kurtzman reducing Star Trek down into simple entertainment guaranteed to cause no new thinking. Granted, this has been an issue for Star Trek long before Kurtzman came on the scene. Star Trek is long overdue for an evolution, a step forward, and all it's done is move backwards into safety and worn down tread over ideas. |
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Post by eJm on Oct 16, 2023 3:38:21 GMT -5
The near-universally beloved status of Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, Prodigy and (one-third of) Picard suggests otherwise. Discovery is an uneven mess with as many poor episodes as good, and the first two seasons of Picard wasted good premises, but overall Kurtzman has had more hits in charge of Star Trek than he's had misses. Yes it does! It suggests that differing people hold differing opinions. I see Kurtzman reducing Star Trek down into simple entertainment guaranteed to cause no new thinking. Granted, this has been an issue for Star Trek long before Kurtzman came on the scene. Star Trek is long overdue for an evolution, a step forward, and all it's done is move backwards into safety and worn down tread over ideas. To be fair, that is quite different from what you originally said. We probably wouldn't have that couple of post discussion if you just said that. |
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Oct 16, 2023 3:51:08 GMT -5
Yes it does! It suggests that differing people hold differing opinions. I see Kurtzman reducing Star Trek down into simple entertainment guaranteed to cause no new thinking. Granted, this has been an issue for Star Trek long before Kurtzman came on the scene. Star Trek is long overdue for an evolution, a step forward, and all it's done is move backwards into safety and worn down tread over ideas. To be fair, that is quite different from what you originally said. We probably wouldn't have that couple of post discussion if you just said that. Well that's what a forum is for, discussion and discourse. I stand by both posts, and welcome the opportunity to discuss it with opposing minds. I don't know anyone outside of FAN that I can talk about Star Trek with to the degree I can here. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 16, 2023 4:44:24 GMT -5
I see Kurtzman reducing Star Trek down into simple entertainment guaranteed to cause no new thinking. Granted, this has been an issue for Star Trek long before Kurtzman came on the scene. Star Trek is long overdue for an evolution, a step forward, and all it's done is move backwards into safety and worn down tread over ideas. That's another debate altogether, and still not one I'd necessarily agree with. Still, I'm not quite sure what such an evolution would look like, if I'm honest. After 900+ episodes of TV and 13 movies it's difficult to break new ground without becoming something else entirely... which also tends to be the most common accusation levelled at Kurtzman's Trek by purists. |
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Post by eJm on Oct 16, 2023 4:49:42 GMT -5
Still, I'm not quite sure what such an evolution would look like, if I'm honest. After 900+ episodes of TV and 13 movies it's difficult to break new ground without becoming something else entirely... which also tends to be the most common accusation levelled at Kurtzman's Trek by purists. I remember hearing it levelled at the first season of Discovery and then hearing that the later seasons were going to safe which, like, I can imagine that being a gigantic headache for those involved (combined with other stuff like corporate mandates and literally everything that caused the actors and writers strikes to happen). |
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