They shootin'! (Copeland and Starks News)

[Chuck Conry]

Seeing reports that both Ricky Starks and Adam Copeland got upset with what the other said to them and started shooting on Collision. This has lead to some pointing out why more scripted promos are best with tempers going up when someone is caught off guard with another's comments.

Do you think this is a mild situation or will we have Edge eating poptarts and shooting at the next post ppv scrum?

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

I think this might be based on Dave talking on Observer Radio and he was more speculating that they must have been annoyed with each other given the insults they launched out there. I think it was probably nothing more than two dudes trying to go off the cuff and it not coming off as well as they hoped.

[Denny Zen is Cooking™]

Oct 16, 2023 15:56:19 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

I think this might be based on Dave talking on Observer Radio and he was more speculating that they must have been annoyed with each other given the insults they launched out there. I think it was probably nothing more than two dudes trying to go off the cuff and it not coming off as well as they hoped.

That's exactly what it's based on (see www.ringsidenews.com/2023/10/16/adam-copeland-ricky-starks-were-legit-upset-over-unscripted-insults-during-aew-collision/)

And they even felt the need to throw in that "Over the Edge" was the name of the PPV where Owen Hart died which...I don't even know what to say about, it so clearly has absolutely nothing to do with what Starks said or why he said it. 

[Cyno]

This is why RSN is a banned source.

[Fade]

It was sloppy. I genuinely hope it’s just rumors cause the last thing this company needs is more beef. Especially between “veterans” and “homegrown” AEW’ers.

The thing is AEW/Tony prides itself on wrasslers being able to come up with things on the fly. That’s the catch. And improvising is always a gamble. It’s easy to go past calling your shot and it being gratuitous. Edge should have left it at the “pants” line. But I also get how both talents, Edge and Ricky “don’t want to look bad”. For different reasons.

[KME]

I'd be surprised if Copeland was legit offended by Ricky telling him to keep his bug eyes off of him, Ricky was clearly just being a heel, and while I could see Ricky not loving the vanilla midget line (he's not alone there if so) he didn't seem all that bothered, didn't he just reply say that pushed him 'over the Edge' Not sure what shooting he's alleged to have done there so his shooting can only have been that initial line.

To me it was a case of Copeland not being used to the less scripted environment and feeling he had to reply to Ricky dissing him as he wasn't set to get more time on the mic and didn't want his character to look weak. That's just how I saw it though. I don't think it's a good idea when you've got multiple people with mics to be taking shots at someone who's mic time is already finished, if they don't respond they look like a moron and if they do respond it comes across awkward because they're clearly not meant to be doing so.

Haven't read much on this but can imagine a lot of the reporting being very "the promos need to be scripted like they do in WWE because WWE is amazing and by the way did we mention WWE is red hot and AEW is dying and things still aren't rosy there even with Punk gone?!"

[DrBackflipsHoffman]

script the promos, do one flip and make that one flip count, tell a story, use the psychology, sell the back bro

[Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite]

Awww made you look, You a slave to a page up in Hobbs Book!

[The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM}]

I hated that exchange. Copeland looked like he was just trying to make Ricky look bad, thankfully Ricky recovered okay. But yeah. Should have left it at the pants thing. But I HATE when wrestlers interrupt each other when the other isn’t expecting it. Seems rude and doesn’t really help.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Given this is from Ringside News which is a banned source, I ain't buying it

Feels like everyone in the newz sites realm are constantly ready to find irl problems between AEW talents at the slightest drop of a pin anymore.

[jm]

Oct 16, 2023 18:22:39 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Given this is from Ringside News which is a banned source, I ain't buying it

Feels like everyone in the newz sites realm are constantly ready to find irl problems between AEW talents at the slightest drop of a pin anymore.

Trying to find any newz story possible in order to make AEW look bad? Sounds just like this forum over the past week. Or more specifically, a few people on this forum the past week.

[ppl591]

Are we sure Tony hasn't tried to get some advice from Russo seeing as he's a big attitude era mark?

I'm joking btw. Better add that

[kingoftheindies]

Oct 16, 2023 18:49:05 GMT -5 jm said:

Oct 16, 2023 18:22:39 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Given this is from Ringside News which is a banned source, I ain't buying it

Feels like everyone in the newz sites realm are constantly ready to find irl problems between AEW talents at the slightest drop of a pin anymore.

Trying to find any newz story possible in order to make AEW look bad? Sounds just like this forum over the past week. Or more specifically, a few people on this forum the past week.

fairly accurate. big reason why I've kind of stayed out of the forum

[Stu]

If this revolves around a banned site, then it's time to lock it up