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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 25, 2023 7:13:54 GMT -5
As a guy who believes the gooker should always be an angle or gimmick of some kind and not griping about backstage shenanigans, it's Tyrus: NWA Champion and nothing else is even close.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Oct 25, 2023 8:13:22 GMT -5
As someone who believes that Wrestlecrap should be a pure celebration of the silliness of pro wrestling... either Uncle Howdy or the Texas Chainsaw match.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Oct 25, 2023 8:22:40 GMT -5
Silliest: Texas Chainsaw match
Dumbest: Tyrus as champ
What it will be: Not finishing the story or CM Punk getting his own show and fumbling it.
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Post by cassonova on Oct 25, 2023 8:27:56 GMT -5
What will probably win: CM Punk What should win: Sexual Harassment Dinosaur What is the Spirit: MTN Pitch Black or Texas Chainsaw Massacre
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Post by SneakMan on Oct 25, 2023 8:37:19 GMT -5
The Mountain Dew Pitch Black Match and the Texas Chainsaw Deathmatch are both most fitting with what the Gooker is supposed to be, but given that the former involved Bray and the latter was essentially a charity fundraiser I couldn't nominate either in good conscience.
Tyrus as NWA Champion is probably the most fitting choice, though in any event I don't have high expectations from RD "willingly employs Vince Russo in the year 2023" Reynolds.
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 25, 2023 9:04:53 GMT -5
If Bray was alive I think Uncle Howdy would be a solid choice. Tyrus: NWA Champ should win if anybody actually watched it. Most of us didn't. This year felt pretty "light" on the Wrestlecrap honestly. Most of the true-Crap I can think of was actually last year or is related to Bray. Blue Kane just doesn't have enough content to warrant being Wrestlecrap, plus I feel giving it to indy-crap is kinda weak in general. Unless it's heinous indy-crap.
Which means the winner will likely be CM Punk bullshit. Although I could see a lot of people that would have voted for Vince bullshit in the past would not vote for CM Punk because he's "their guy". But hypocrites gonna hypocrite.
Maybe the answer will be Tony shitposting on Twitter. He might actually publicly accept the reward.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Oct 25, 2023 9:19:52 GMT -5
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Post by SirLucas on Oct 25, 2023 9:38:10 GMT -5
Texas Chainsaw Deathmatch - It had that campiness that we attribute to WrestleCrap. The Mountain Dew Pitch Black match was brutal to watch, but may get a pass due to the untimely death of Wyatt.
Maybe AEW's booking as a whole for 2023 could be a candidate. Although, they did record numbers in England, their ticket sales in the United States are in the toilet. Their 3/4ths empty arena photos around the country have become memes themselves across social media.
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Post by ace on Oct 25, 2023 9:38:49 GMT -5
If as many people watched NWA as are voting for Tori’s here…they’d be doing Smackdown numbers,
Something fishy is going on in his voting pool.
I mean..it’s clear what it is but I don’t want to upset the AEW cult.
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Post by eJm on Oct 25, 2023 9:58:51 GMT -5
Something fishy is going on in his voting pool. You do realize you're talking about WrestleCrap, right? This isn't an actual election with actual stakes to it here. Fanbase votes for what they like. Also, if we're going to expect RD Reynolds to do articles of how bad tickets are and people who love to take pictures of hard cam seats not being filled, then I don't know what we're expecting from WrestleCrap as a thing anymore. This goes for tweets, too, because we'd retroactively have to induct Vince McMahon's AOL chat by that logic. EDIT: For the record, I agree with Tyrus only because it fits what WC is about, a bad wrestling idea with some funny moments here and there. It's either that or the Mountain Dew Pitch Black match but, to put it lightly, that'd be a really weird thing to win this year.
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Post by SirLucas on Oct 25, 2023 10:14:58 GMT -5
I am not sure about Tyrus. How much of the Tyrus hate is fueled by the sexual harassment lawsuit vs. something that actually happened within a wrestling storyline?
If it's the latter, then I don't see it being a big deal. The NWA title itself has not had the prestige of being a major wrestling title since the mid-90s when Flair held it in WCW. Billy Corgan resurrected a dead brand in the National Wrestling Alliance from obscurity. Today, it is just a low-rent independent promotion with a YouTube show. Tyrus was most likely the champion for so long for publicity due to him being a commentator on Gutfeld, but it wasn't like Corgan's NWA was setting the wrestling world on fire to begin with. Before Tyrus was champion, the title was held by Trevor Murdoch for Christ sake. That's not exactly a household name. Before people complain how the reputation of the NWA title was tarnished with Tyrus' reign, let's not forget this is the same title the was held by Rob Conway on two occasions.
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Post by eJm on Oct 25, 2023 10:24:53 GMT -5
I am not sure about Tyrus. How much of the Tyrus hate is fueled by the sexual harassment lawsuit vs. something that actually happened within a wrestling storyline? I mean, the latter isn’t really something used for WrestleCrap nominees either considering the history. He was just a dud as a champion, didn’t get any people to watch, could barely go and kept going because a promoter really liked the fact he got appearances as a news commentator. You say Rob Conway as an example of a lack of credibility as champion but at least the guy got to wrestle at the Tokyo Dome as NWA World Champion, during the rapidly growing highs of NJPW too. Like, if Diesal can get inducted as WWF champion, Tyrus can too.
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Post by SirLucas on Oct 25, 2023 10:33:19 GMT -5
I am not sure about Tyrus. How much of the Tyrus hate is fueled by the sexual harassment lawsuit vs. something that actually happened within a wrestling storyline? I mean, the latter isn’t really something used for WrestleCrap nominees either considering the history. He was just a dud as a champion, didn’t get any people to watch, could barely go and kept going because a promoter really liked the fact he got appearances as a news commentator. You say Rob Conway as an example of a lack of credibility as champion but at least the guy got to wrestle at the Tokyo Dome as NWA World Champion, during the rapidly growing highs of NJPW too. Like, if Diesal can get inducted as WWF champion, Tyrus can too. The difference is that Diesel was the champion of wrestling's biggest promotion. The NWA is so far off the radar nowadays that I just don't see the Tyrus title reign as "worst in ALL of 2023 wrestling" worthy.
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Post by eJm on Oct 25, 2023 10:39:24 GMT -5
The difference is that Diesel was the champion of wrestling's biggest promotion. The NWA is so far off the radar nowadays that I just don't see the Tyrus title reign as "worst in ALL of 2023 wrestling" worthy. I mean, it’s talked about enough in the circles of people here who might nominate and vote for such a thing. Especially one that’s going to be punching above its weight when it’s going to be on a bigger network next year. Like, frankly, he’d be a better “winner” than “ticket sales” or “tweets”.
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Post by SirLucas on Oct 25, 2023 10:44:33 GMT -5
The difference is that Diesel was the champion of wrestling's biggest promotion. The NWA is so far off the radar nowadays that I just don't see the Tyrus title reign as "worst in ALL of 2023 wrestling" worthy. I mean, it’s talked about enough in the circles of people here who might nominate and vote for such a thing. Especially one that’s going to be punching above its weight when it’s going to be on a bigger network next year. Like, frankly, he’d be a better “winner” than “ticket sales” or “tweets”. Fair enough. But I'll say we give an honorable mention to Bobby Lashley, pulled from WrestleMania and recipient of the Andre the Giant Battle Royal trophy.
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Post by eJm on Oct 25, 2023 10:46:08 GMT -5
I mean, it’s talked about enough in the circles of people here who might nominate and vote for such a thing. Especially one that’s going to be punching above its weight when it’s going to be on a bigger network next year. Like, frankly, he’d be a better “winner” than “ticket sales” or “tweets”. Fair enough. But I'll say we give an honorable mention to Bobby Lashley, pulled from WrestleMania and recipient of the Andre the Giant Battle Royal trophy. You forgot to add “getting in a draw with Brock Lesnar with negative follow up on that match when a ‘Mania match felt like a homerun”.
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Post by SirLucas on Oct 25, 2023 10:53:58 GMT -5
Fair enough. But I'll say we give an honorable mention to Bobby Lashley, pulled from WrestleMania and recipient of the Andre the Giant Battle Royal trophy. You forgot to add “getting in a draw with Brock Lesnar with negative follow up on that match when a ‘Mania match felt like a homerun”. Having Miz talk trash and getting beat up two nights in a row felt like overkill. I'd much rather they'd at least had given Lashley a quick match against someone in one of those spots.
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Post by SirLucas on Oct 25, 2023 10:55:22 GMT -5
How come nobody has mentioned the creation of the World Heavyweight title, currently held by Seth Freakin Rollins?
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Post by eJm on Oct 25, 2023 11:17:21 GMT -5
How come nobody has mentioned the creation of the World Heavyweight title, currently held by Seth Freakin Rollins? I think that’s more idea of something bad then actually being bad. Because Seth, by all accounts, has done the job he’s expected to. Just everything surrounding it would more be lumped into a “WWE doesn’t want Bloodline money train to end” induction. Also, we’d have to nominate “Make Gunther a Raw main eventer and not an PLE main eventer to not overshadow Seth” and that opens up a bait shop of cans of worms.
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Post by Cyno on Oct 25, 2023 11:19:21 GMT -5
Despite its creation being a result of WWE booking themselves into a corner with Roman, I don't think introducing another world championship is gooker-worthy.
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