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Post by 06vwgti on Nov 8, 2023 15:40:22 GMT -5
Dlo's head bobble would get him over today. I loved his head bobble and chest protector from 98.
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Post by thegame415 on Nov 8, 2023 15:44:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree it's hard to say that these gimmicks would work because 1998 is so much different than 2023. Imagine wondering if what worked in 1973 would work in 1998.
At the same time, this is super interesting. I think a lot of the gimmicks would just need to be updated.
For example, Val as a super cringy, creepy heel that has a Pornhub account and pushes for others to do OF might be intriguing IF it was written right.
Headbangers would just need to be Cloud Rappers with face tattoos.
Mean Street Posse as a rich group of white boys who oppose star ratings and the Tokydome might be fun on a smaller scale.
D'Lo would so get over for his workrrate today.
Also, I know someone mentioned the Oddities, but I think they could be updated. Just throw a better worker in there to appease the hardcore fans (let's just say Chad Gable), Omos, and a few others. Someone is obsessed with Morty Smith. It's now updated for today.
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 8, 2023 15:52:13 GMT -5
I forget if it was here in another thread, or another board, but The Godfather? Just on grounds of "because it glorifies human trafficking" alone.
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 8, 2023 16:50:00 GMT -5
I wonder if Gangrel could still get over.
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Post by nickcave on Nov 8, 2023 16:53:41 GMT -5
I would argue if Mideon was even over during the Attitude Era lol a rare guy who I don't think the crowd ever cared about during that time
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Post by karl100589 on Nov 8, 2023 16:59:20 GMT -5
I wonder if Gangrel could still get over. A lot of Gangrel’s overness was the theme IMO. Take that away and you have Kevin Thorn.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Nov 8, 2023 20:12:28 GMT -5
I wonder if Gangrel could still get over. The vampire gimmick is the right guy away from being amazing, imagine a wrestler like Christopher Lee/Deacon Frost vampire villain. Gangrel was okay in the ring, his theme music was great but his mic work was not good.
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Post by fw91 on Nov 8, 2023 21:39:35 GMT -5
Test would be the iwc whooping boy
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Post by Urn Anderson on Nov 8, 2023 21:51:48 GMT -5
I think D’Lo would easily get over in any era.
It’s true Mero flopped, but there are very few people who could have survived how incredibly poorly “Marvelous” Marc was booked. I think if they brought him in fresh today and just let him be himself, he would be doing pretty well.
Nothing will ever be as good as Johnny B. Badd, though, that’s just an all-time great gimmick. It absolutely nailed all of the best parts of the ridiculousness in pro wrestling.
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Post by chrom on Nov 8, 2023 21:54:52 GMT -5
I would argue if Mideon was even over during the Attitude Era lol a rare guy who I don't think the crowd ever cared about during that time There was a number of Attitude Era talents in that era who received Conway Pops.
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 8, 2023 22:27:39 GMT -5
I wonder if Gangrel could still get over. A lot of Gangrel’s overness was the theme IMO. Take that away and you have Kevin Thorn. I actually liked Thorn's theme, too: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX8Xq5NybDk
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Nov 8, 2023 23:02:23 GMT -5
Chyna was mega over despite several limitations and I don't see that happening in today's day and age. The talent pool is waaayyy more crowded.
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 9, 2023 0:02:25 GMT -5
Test would be the iwc whooping boy He was back in the day as well (though the Shane match did cause people to soften on him, he was considered Kevin Nash 2.0 by many on the net and even some casuals at the time).
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 9, 2023 8:21:43 GMT -5
I honestly think the OP is already wrong tbh
The Posse would, if anything, be even more over now. That is a top quality 'stupid bullshit' gimmick. That would be incredibly over in NXT, die on the main roster, and then just make money on the indies until they all retired. They'd probably be feuding with the Spirit Squad in MLW.
And I can't believe I have to defend f***ing Pal Penis of all f***ing people, but
He was a talented enough wrestler, and could talk. He wouldn't be 'Porn star guy' nowadays, he'd have a different gimmick and be perfectly serviceable in it. He's the ideal OVW clone boy.
And while I would love to agree that he'd not get work nowadays, the idea that having his absolutely terrible views would mean he didn't get booked, when WWE still book Hogan, AEW just signed Flair, and Tess Blanchard is still winning titles, is f***ing ludicrous.
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 9, 2023 9:15:12 GMT -5
I wonder if Gangrel could still get over. A lot of Gangrel’s overness was the theme IMO. Take that away and you have Kevin Thorn. Because no one in the modern age fits the trope of the theme song being the most over part. I'd say it still fit...gloriously. (I mean, Roode probably is a better wrestler than Gangrel, but...)
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 9, 2023 9:16:28 GMT -5
Test would be the iwc whooping boy He was back in the day as well (though the Shane match did cause people to soften on him, he was considered Kevin Nash 2.0 by many on the net and even some casuals at the time). Someone out there knew it too...as I still swear that part of the gibberish lyrics of his theme sounds like "Kevin Nash, here I go again..."
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Post by msc on Nov 9, 2023 12:14:55 GMT -5
I wonder if Gangrel could still get over. A lot of Gangrel’s overness was the theme IMO. Take that away and you have Kevin Thorn. Now that's not true. He didn't only have an amazing theme tune. He also had an amazing entrance up through the fire and Spitting blood. And then the match began so basically Karrion Kross.
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Post by BRV on Nov 9, 2023 12:26:49 GMT -5
Kane.
Imagine if WWE tried to debut a wrestler with the gimmick of “he’s this main eventer’s long-lost brother who has a difficult-to-follow lore.” He’d be given the modern equivalent of Lance Von Erich.
On top of it all, Kane of the late 1990s was sort of clunky in the ring, so any benefit of the doubt given by the fans would be immediately gone the moment the bell rang.
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Post by CMWaters on Nov 9, 2023 12:38:50 GMT -5
Kane. Imagine if WWE tried to debut a wrestler with the gimmick of “he’s this main eventer’s long-lost brother who has a difficult-to-follow lore.” He’d be given the modern equivalent of Lance Von Erich. On top of it all, Kane of the late 1990s was sort of clunky in the ring, so any benefit of the doubt given by the fans would be immediately gone the moment the bell rang. Let's be fair, his lore wasn't THAT difficult to follow at the start: brother of Undertaker, thought to have died in a fire, wants revenge on brother who he thinks did it plus words put in his head by Paul Bearer. It's when they added things like Bearer being his dad and such that it got complicated. Also, I would argue that Kane's in-ring skills at the time were around the same as Undertaker's around that time. Taker didn't really step up his game until late in his American Badass run IMO, save for some matches here and there like vs. Bret and vs. Diesel.
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Post by chazraps on Nov 9, 2023 14:26:53 GMT -5
It's always strange to see Sable as being referred to as somehow not charismatic. You don't reach the absolute peak of the industry as she did without charisma. It may not be rallying the crowds or telling jokes or even verbal communication, but when Sable stepped in front of an arena she was absolutely charismatic enough to capture attention, interest and the hearts of millions.
She had *it*. If she didn't, her success would have been replicated a lot more over the past 25 years.
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