Wheeler Yuta just won his first singles match on AEW tv

[clifford]

lol, this is f***ing wild. It checks out btw, if you read the twitter thread.

[Rumble McSkirmish]

[Kalmia]

That's amazing. I knew he lost relatively frequently, but I thought he had a few wins under his belt. Just goes to show how far match quality and presentation can go in establishing a wrestler.

[Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby]

Nov 26, 2023 11:20:22 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

That's amazing. I knew he lost relatively frequently, but I thought he had a few wins under his belt. Just goes to show how far match quality and presentation can go in establishing a wrestler.

The ROH Pure Title and a few choice tag wins have gone some way, I think. The title belt at minimum communicates that he's won and continued to win, and I think the Pure Title's "defended under different rules" quality gives its champions some insulation from the 10's WWE Midcard Champion booking that Yuta got on AEW TV.

[Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite]

Wow, that just sounds crazy but I guess checks out.


Yuta being booked to get the pin in multi-men BCC matches has definitely made Yuta feel like a bigger threat than he's actually been.

[Kalmia]

Nov 26, 2023 11:27:57 GMT -5 Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby said:

Nov 26, 2023 11:20:22 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

That's amazing. I knew he lost relatively frequently, but I thought he had a few wins under his belt. Just goes to show how far match quality and presentation can go in establishing a wrestler.

The ROH Pure Title and a few choice tag wins have gone some way, I think. The title belt at minimum communicates that he's won and continued to win, and I think the Pure Title's "defended under different rules" quality gives its champions some insulation from the 10's WWE Midcard Champion booking that Yuta got on AEW TV.

So if buying ROH has done only one thing, it's to help Wheeler Yuta, lmao

[Fade is a CodyCryBaby]

I’m still pissed he got a tag win over Hook

[The Ichi]

Kind of proof that stats don't always matter.

[daaave]

This is wild. Like how has this happened he's on tv quite a bit

[Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000]

f*** Wheeler Yuta

[4real]

Has still pinned Kenny Omega though and not a lot of guys in AEW can say that.

[GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY]

Wheeler smells like ass overturn the match

[Cyno]

He's going to celebrate by marathoning Gallus matches.

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

[Bo Rida]

It helps prove that for a wrestler on the rise being on TV most weeks and losing a lot is better than being protected by rarely losing but disappearing for weeks at a time.

Swerve, Yuta, Julia have all benefited, the likes of Takeshita and Hobbs not so much.

[Treklubj]

Seeing this made me go back and reread the reaction thread for Moxley vs. Yuta. This is either a good example of how the internet increased the tendency for people to be prisoners of the moment or it's an even better example of how Tony Khan, more often than not, has no idea how to follow up something.

There were multiple people in there hailing Yuta as a "made guy" and a new superstar. Others even made comparisons to John Cena debuting against Kurt Angle and Jeff Hardy's RAW loss to Undertaker.

While that was clearly some prisoner of the moment hyperbole, the fact there were some people reacting like that to Yuta's loss and it still took him 17 months from that point to pick up televised singles gives a lot of credibility to those who criticize TK's booking decisions.

[Mozenrath]

Nov 26, 2023 15:43:08 GMT -5 Treklubj said:

Seeing this made me go back and reread the reaction thread for Moxley vs. Yuta. This is either a good example of how the internet increased the tendency for people to be prisoners of the moment or it's an even better example of how Tony Khan, more often than not, has no idea how to follow up something.

There were multiple people in there hailing Yuta as a "made guy" and a new superstar. Others even made comparisons to John Cena debuting against Kurt Angle and Jeff Hardy's RAW loss to Undertaker.

While that was clearly some prisoner of the moment hyperbole, the fact there were some people reacting like that to Yuta's loss and it still took him 17 months from that point to pick up televised singles gives a lot of credibility to those who criticize TK's booking decisions.

It does, just as people being surprised by that stat sucks a good amount of air right back out of those tires. It's a mixed bag.

[Lizuka #BLM]

I kind of feel like the only reason even remembers the Cena / Angle thing is because it was Cena. Like, that'd obviously play a factor, but the Angle thing did absolutely nothing for him and really played no part whatsoever in him actually getting over. Case in point when a year or two later they did the same kind of debut with Orlando Jordan as a deliberate callback and nobody brings that one up.

Kind of a similar juncture it was cool at the time but how many people even remember Action Andretti exists?

[bob]

Nov 26, 2023 12:31:58 GMT -5 Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000 said:

f*** Nana

[This Player Hating Mothman]

Nov 26, 2023 15:43:08 GMT -5 Treklubj said:

Seeing this made me go back and reread the reaction thread for Moxley vs. Yuta. This is either a good example of how the internet increased the tendency for people to be prisoners of the moment or it's an even better example of how Tony Khan, more often than not, has no idea how to follow up something.

There were multiple people in there hailing Yuta as a "made guy" and a new superstar. Others even made comparisons to John Cena debuting against Kurt Angle and Jeff Hardy's RAW loss to Undertaker.

While that was clearly some prisoner of the moment hyperbole, the fact there were some people reacting like that to Yuta's loss and it still took him 17 months from that point to pick up televised singles gives a lot of credibility to those who criticize TK's booking decisions.

I mean if you slice it only specifically in the capacity of 'a singles win', sure, yeah. But him proving himself came with a lot of tangible, realistic things. Joining the BCC, being on television, getting tag team and trios wins where he's 8-3 and 7-1 this year, being involved with bigger stars in the company while being their punching bag youngboy, and his pushes within ROH that whether people like it or not is within AEW's universe. He didn't become a megastar, but it did do a big job in elevating Wheeler from the whiny guy Trent didn't like and it was a big stepping stone into having Yuta become a consistent television presence. You need to very specifically cut within lines you drew yourself to say that somehow TK didn't follow this up because literally every second he's had on screen since that match, has been because of that match.