Is Harvey Wippleman the biggest Wrestlecrap manager?

[karl100589]

The website Jumptheshark.com dedicates a segment of its site to the actor Ted McGinley, believing TV shows went downhill once Ted joined the cast. It got me thinking; is Dr Harvey Wippleman the wrestling equivalent? Outside of Sid, the good doctor always seemed to be paired with Wrestlecrap worthy performers. Big Bully Busick, singles run Warlord, Mr Hughes, Giant Gonzalez, Adam Bomb, Well Dunn and Bertha Faye. I’d even put Kamala there given how offensive the character is by modern standards.

Add in his infamous run as Women's Champion, is Wippleman the unheralded king of Wrestlecrap?

[Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite]

Ted McGinley gets a bum rap, Married with Children got way funnier once he showed up as Marcy's new husband.

Harvey Whippleman made for a good low rent, low card manager for jobbers and JTTS, I'd be hard pressed to think of a manager who had a bigger array misfits

[chrom]

Yeah he was a pretty crappy manager, if you got paired with him you shouldn't expect great things coming your way.

[CMWaters]

Nov 26, 2023 17:28:21 GMT -5 chrom said:

Yeah he was a pretty crappy manager, if you got paired with him you shouldn't expect great things coming your way.

With one exception:

[SmashTV]

Yes.

But I mean that in the most complimentary of ways.

[johnnyk9]

I think Harvey had a lot of bad timing with the talent he was given:

I thought initially him and Big Bully Busick were great together basically the Looney Tunes characters Chester and Spike in human form(if you remember those cartoons) but then Bully suddenly quits

They give him Warlord, but now Warlord has had 4 different managers in the WWF and has been in a year long feud with The British Bulldog when Harvey takes over for Slick and has been pushed far down the card Vince should’ve never split up The Powers Of Pain to begin with.

Then you give him Sid and Harvey makes The Doctor gimmick work but after WM 8 when it looks like the two will regain momentum after the horrible WM 8 match with Hogan Sid quits.

Kamala and him never gelled should’ve given Kamala back to Fuji

Giant Gonzales we all know that story

Mr. Hughes and him were a good pairing but after a decent 5 month mid career run Hughes gets fired

Giving him Adam Bomb was a wrong move, should’ve let Bomb with Polo

Kwang and Well Dunn sum up his 1994 year they could’ve given him someone better, his feud with Fink will always be legendary imo mostly because Howard was all in on it

Bertha Faye and him didn’t gel either and Harvey has talked about how bad she was behind the scenes

I thought his run of the fair referee could’ve been longer

His loyalty lead to a decent b/s job and he has a great relationship with a lot of great talent to this day. Could his manager run been better of course but he found greener pastures with other talents he had

[James Fabiano]

Wait, there's a Jump the Shark site again?

Anyway, Harvey was the go nowhere manager of the 90s. As in, most wrestlers with him tended to eventually go nowhere. (they did try upper midcard and even main event acts with him, though)

I am thinking of him a lot lately, and his most famous feud, but Paul Jones was another stable of mostly freaks. Shaska and Baron were so over the top they're impossible to not like though. He was treated a bit more seriously with Rude and Fernandez, then again with the Powers of Pain.

They were actually considered main event/upper midcard, but how about...the DUNGEON OF DOOM?!!?

[Ultimo Gallos]

Harvey was better as Downtown Bruno in Memphis.

And now we got his "son" running around the southern indies. Brandon The Balding...I mean Brilliant One Turner.

[tafkaga]

I'd put Kevin Sullivan ahead of Harvey. Harvey might have managed guys who were on the slide, but none of those gimmicks are as bad as Zodiac, Shark, Leprechaun, etc.

Honorable mention to Teddy Long in the mid 90's. If Teddy was your manager during that era, you were pretty much a guaranteed loser.

[sdoyle7798]

Nov 26, 2023 18:09:16 GMT -5 johnnyk9 said:

They give him Warlord, but now Warlord has had 4 different managers in the WWF and has been in a year long feud with The British Bulldog when Harvey takes over for Slick and has been pushed far down the card Vince should’ve never split up The Powers Of Pain to begin with.

Fuji, Slick, Harvey....and who else?

[CMWaters]

Nov 27, 2023 13:37:08 GMT -5 sdoyle7798 said:

Nov 26, 2023 18:09:16 GMT -5 johnnyk9 said:

They give him Warlord, but now Warlord has had 4 different managers in the WWF and has been in a year long feud with The British Bulldog when Harvey takes over for Slick and has been pushed far down the card Vince should’ve never split up The Powers Of Pain to begin with.

Fuji, Slick, Harvey....and who else?

The Baron when he was first introduced in WWF in the Powers of Pain.

[Stu]

Gonzalez was over seven feet tall. So, yes, Harvey managed the biggest wrestlecrap.

[tirtefaa]

Let's not forget about the week where he filled in for Ravishing Rick Rude in D-X as Handsome Harvey...only to immediately get kicked out of the group in response to Rude jumping to WCW.

[Lizuka #BLM]

Nov 26, 2023 17:02:47 GMT -5 Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite said:

Ted McGinley gets a bum rap, Married with Children got way funnier once he showed up as Marcy's new husband.

On the flipside get a look at his filmography sometime and shudder in horror at where his career wound up.

[fg]

Nov 26, 2023 17:28:21 GMT -5 chrom said:

Yeah he was a pretty crappy manager, if you got paired with him you shouldn't expect great things coming your way.

RD Reynolds said Harvey was the kiss of death and he was a heat vaccum.

[nisidhe]

Nov 27, 2023 13:37:08 GMT -5 sdoyle7798 said:

Nov 26, 2023 18:09:16 GMT -5 johnnyk9 said:

They give him Warlord, but now Warlord has had 4 different managers in the WWF and has been in a year long feud with The British Bulldog when Harvey takes over for Slick and has been pushed far down the card Vince should’ve never split up The Powers Of Pain to begin with.

Fuji, Slick, Harvey....and who else?

Wasn't Heenan the Warlord's manager during the run-up to the WM 7 match vs Davey Boy? It was that long, ridiculous build where they had someone impersonating the Old Doll (RIP) running down the Bulldog, only for there to be an expose video of the same woman at a table just acting, well, naff?

[chrom]

Nov 27, 2023 19:35:20 GMT -5 nisidhe said:

Nov 27, 2023 13:37:08 GMT -5 sdoyle7798 said:

Fuji, Slick, Harvey....and who else?

Wasn't Heenan the Warlord's manager during the run-up to the WM 7 match vs Davey Boy? It was that long, ridiculous build where they had someone impersonating the Old Doll (RIP) running down the Bulldog, only for there to be an expose video of the same woman at a table just acting, well, naff?

You're thinking of The Barbarian, Heenan never managed Warlord.

[jason1980s]

Nov 27, 2023 11:20:26 GMT -5 tafkaga said:

I'd put Kevin Sullivan ahead of Harvey. Harvey might have managed guys who were on the slide, but none of those gimmicks are as bad as Zodiac, Shark, Leprechaun, etc.

Honorable mention to Teddy Long in the mid 90's. If Teddy was your manager during that era, you were pretty much a guaranteed loser.

Teddy must have been signed to one of those infamously long WCW contracts because he was around for like a decade and yet you'd only see him every few years. After Doom split up and Johnny B. Badd turned face I don't remember him doing anything until late 1993 when he wanted to guide 2 Cold and Bagwell. With 2 Cold leaving or being fired, Teddy disappeared on TV. It wasn't until maybe 1997 when I saw him again. He was with Ice Train, Jim Powers, Craig Pittman, Bobby Walker. Basically the gimmick was, they didn't get any TV time so Teddy would work with them to get it. It was pretty bad, as you allude to.

He's a guy, like Michael Hayes, that wasn't with WWF during the original 80s and 90s and yet they both wound up with long term careers in WWE so I'm happy for them.

[CMWaters]

Nov 27, 2023 20:28:26 GMT -5 jason1980s said:

Nov 27, 2023 11:20:26 GMT -5 tafkaga said:

I'd put Kevin Sullivan ahead of Harvey. Harvey might have managed guys who were on the slide, but none of those gimmicks are as bad as Zodiac, Shark, Leprechaun, etc.

Honorable mention to Teddy Long in the mid 90's. If Teddy was your manager during that era, you were pretty much a guaranteed loser.

Teddy must have been signed to one of those infamously long WCW contracts because he was around for like a decade and yet you'd only see him every few years. After Doom split up and Johnny B. Badd turned face I don't remember him doing anything until late 1993 when he wanted to guide 2 Cold and Bagwell. With 2 Cold leaving or being fired, Teddy disappeared on TV. It wasn't until maybe 1997 when I saw him again. He was with Ice Train, Jim Powers, Craig Pittman, Bobby Walker. Basically the gimmick was, they didn't get any TV time so Teddy would work with them to get it. It was pretty bad, as you allude to.

He's a guy, like Michael Hayes, that wasn't with WWF during the original 80s and 90s and yet they both wound up with long term careers in WWE so I'm happy for them.

Wasn't he a referee in some of those non-managerial periods?

[tafkaga]

He was a referee in the late '80s before turning heel.