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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jan 5, 2024 0:16:30 GMT -5
For example..
Jim Neidhart post Hart Foundation split was just basically Hart Foundation Jim Neidhart without Bret. But also so was Bret.
Another would be Sgt. Slaughter, who after his 1992 retirement they tried him as a talking head and an authority figure but he wasn't very good in either role. His 1997 return was a little more successful because he got to be Sarge but you can tell he was lost on how to play the role.
Anyone else struggle to adopt after a character or rather grow it.
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Jan 5, 2024 0:21:56 GMT -5
I definitely gotta disagree about Slaughter. I mean, yeah he was always Sarge, but his dynamic with DX was great.
That said, Roman was this until he came back as the Tribal Chief.
Marty Jannetty was always half of the Rockers Marty Jannetty.
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Post by agent817 on Jan 5, 2024 0:48:37 GMT -5
Scotty 2 Hotty never got past the character even after Too Cool was no more.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 5, 2024 0:59:58 GMT -5
X-Pac gets accused of this, but I think he was mostly screwed due to his name. He'd already worn similar gear pre-DX, but when your name is X-Pac, you're kind of stuck without a way to cleanly break from the stable aftermath.
It'd be like if Owen Hart joined WCW and became named NWOwen, then was called that after the stable ended.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jan 5, 2024 4:06:54 GMT -5
Val Venis.
Terry Taylor trying to shut down the memories of the Red Rooster. He never returned to the character, but never lived it down.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 5, 2024 9:40:18 GMT -5
Marty Janetty has to be the patron saint of this.
I think it's kinda sad Nick Dinsmore still makes more money on the indies as sad fat Eugene than he would just being himself.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jan 5, 2024 9:46:42 GMT -5
Marty Jannetty was always half of the Rockers Marty Jannetty. sadly as we've found out that wasn't a gimmick/character, Perpetual Party Marty is who he actually is and probably what inspired the rockers characters. |
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Post by tafkaga on Jan 5, 2024 9:55:49 GMT -5
Jannetty is the best I can think of as well. They tried to get him to play a heel parody of the Rockers, and it almost looked like he didn't understand the gimmick, despite Al Snow heeling it up right next to him. Then he went to WCW and was still just the other half of the Rockers, as if time stopped in 1991. The weird thing is that Marty had played a competent heel earlier in his career and was actually a pretty decent talker. He was far from a one dimensional talent, but he ended up looking like one.
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Post by chrom on Jan 5, 2024 9:58:30 GMT -5
Virgil always reverted back to being someone's stooge
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Post by Soultastic on Jan 5, 2024 10:09:20 GMT -5
X-Pac gets accused of this, but I think he was mostly screwed due to his name. He'd already worn similar gear pre-DX, but when your name is X-Pac, you're kind of stuck without a way to cleanly break from the stable aftermath. It'd be like if Owen Hart joined WCW and became named NWOwen, then was called that after the stable ended. I remember around 2010 I watched a random AAA show and X-Pac came out with DX gear, tron and music. So while I agree with you, sometimes he very much does it on purpose and I love it. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 5, 2024 10:16:53 GMT -5
X-Pac gets accused of this, but I think he was mostly screwed due to his name. He'd already worn similar gear pre-DX, but when your name is X-Pac, you're kind of stuck without a way to cleanly break from the stable aftermath. It'd be like if Owen Hart joined WCW and became named NWOwen, then was called that after the stable ended. I remember around 2010 I watched a random AAA show and X-Pac came out with DX gear, tron and music. So while I agree with you, sometimes he very much does it on purpose and I love it. Honestly in X-Pac's case time really has washed away a lot of things. It's no longer "oh shit it's X-Pac", it's more "hey cool it's X-Pac!". Most people now mainly remember what an awesome wrestler he's always been instead of what was all things considered a pretty brief period of infamy that isn't even close to the most notable example of that kind of heat, anyway. |
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Post by nickcave on Jan 5, 2024 11:14:57 GMT -5
Val Venis. Terry Taylor trying to shut down the memories of the Red Rooster. He never returned to the character, but never lived it down. What you are telling me the Computerized Man of the 90s Terrance Taylor didn't shake off the Red Rooster stigma?!? |
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Post by tafkaga on Jan 5, 2024 11:21:48 GMT -5
Virgil always reverted back to being someone's stooge Virgil takes a lot of abuse, much of it affectionate, but I think it should be pointed out that he was a really good stooge. His wrestling was ass, but he looked plenty intimidating as DiBiase's bodyguard. Then we found out he could also bump really well. Then he went to WCW and transitioned into more of a weaselly sycophant. Virgil is to stooges what Mean Gene was to interviewers. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 5, 2024 11:25:02 GMT -5
X-Pac gets accused of this, but I think he was mostly screwed due to his name. He'd already worn similar gear pre-DX, but when your name is X-Pac, you're kind of stuck without a way to cleanly break from the stable aftermath. It'd be like if Owen Hart joined WCW and became named NWOwen, then was called that after the stable ended. I remember around 2010 I watched a random AAA show and X-Pac came out with DX gear, tron and music. So while I agree with you, sometimes he very much does it on purpose and I love it. 2009-2010 AAA was good times. |
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jan 5, 2024 11:34:29 GMT -5
X-Pac gets accused of this, but I think he was mostly screwed due to his name. He'd already worn similar gear pre-DX, but when your name is X-Pac, you're kind of stuck without a way to cleanly break from the stable aftermath. It'd be like if Owen Hart joined WCW and became named NWOwen, then was called that after the stable ended. Yeah but with NWOwen at least you can just drop the NW and call him Owen and it wouldn't be an issue since it is his real name. X-Pac on the other hand...whats he gonna do? Turn against DX and become "Pac" or "X" or decide he wants to be a kid again or he's done being a nickname and wants respect for Sean Waltman. Either way it fails miserably but at least Owen has an easier out. |
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jan 5, 2024 11:37:53 GMT -5
Val Venis. Terry Taylor trying to shut down the memories of the Red Rooster. He never returned to the character, but never lived it down. Val runs into the same issue X-Pac does. Its either you get a new re-iteration or you have to go real name. The weird part with the Rooster angle was that the idea was Heenan gave him the nickname as an insult and yet he embraced it when it should have been a man overcoming a gimmick and empowering himself. Which something tells me Terry didn't bother doing. |
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Post by malloc on Jan 5, 2024 12:20:23 GMT -5
Marc Mero? Moved to WWF coz they loved Johhny B Badd but couldn't do the gimmick in wwf they they see more value in Sable?
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Post by Aceorton on Jan 5, 2024 15:38:01 GMT -5
Koko B. Ware in 1992 did pretty much everything the same as Koko B. Ware in 1987, but with baggier pants and a different haircut.
Tatanka seems to fit the bill here, too. When he went heel with DiBiase, he was just "sour-faced Native American" instead of "friendly Native American" and barely spoke. There was really no development his whole career, including in his 2006-ish return.
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Jan 5, 2024 21:04:33 GMT -5
Marc Mero? Moved to WWF coz they loved Johhny B Badd but couldn't do the gimmick in wwf they they see more value in Sable? I don't see Marc in this category. Yeah, "Wildman" Marc Mero was an attempt to keep the Johnny B Badd character, but "Marvelous" Marc Mero was a major departure. And "jealous of Sable" Marc Mero was massively different to the Little Richard ripoff he was doing in WCW. |
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Post by LiamMcDuggle on Jan 5, 2024 21:07:34 GMT -5
For example.. Jim Neidhart post Hart Foundation split was just basically Hart Foundation Jim Neidhart without Bret. But also so was Bret. Another would be Sgt. Slaughter, who after his 1992 retirement they tried him as a talking head and an authority figure but he wasn't very good in either role. His 1997 return was a little more successful because he got to be Sarge but you can tell he was lost on how to play the role. Anyone else struggle to adopt after a character or rather grow it. Jannetty was good enough to succeed if he bothered to have a character. Instead he wore his Rocker gear for the next 30 years, including in appearances in TNA and WCW |
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