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Post by castletonsnob on Jan 9, 2024 20:29:42 GMT -5
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Post by chrom on Jan 9, 2024 20:31:17 GMT -5
Is it really rad?
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Post by tirtefaa on Jan 9, 2024 22:18:08 GMT -5
You need to open it up and look at the board.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Jan 10, 2024 1:22:35 GMT -5
After doing some research, I learned legit copies have an imprinted number (like 00 or 40) into the back label. Seeing how the third picture is lacking that in the back of the cart, I would have to bet it's a repro.
I could be wrong however, a better for sure way to know is opening that sucker up and seeing if you see anything missing like a Nintendo logo or something along those lines.
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Post by castletonsnob on Jan 10, 2024 6:21:29 GMT -5
I read a site on how to tell if a SNES cartridge is authentic, and my copy of Link to the Past passes every one other than the back label and the board (I refuse to open up the cartridge). It has the product number code where the pin connector is, the game title on the label is clear, and the dot for the "i" in the Nintendo logo on the back is a square instead of a circle. And let's be real, it'd be hard to fake that kind of wear.
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Post by Powerline on Jan 10, 2024 9:11:23 GMT -5
I know I'm echoing others, but the telltale sign of it being legit or a repro would be to open it up and check the board. In this case it isn't THAT involved. You can see what you need to on the board without removing the board itself from the cart (on most carts it'll be stuck on the backside) or doing any additional maintenance; literally just unscrew it, remove the top part of the cart, find (or not find) what you need to, and screw everything back together. But I don't see anything on the outside of the cart in your pictures that clinches it one way or the other. Which can also be a good sign; there's plenty of repro/fake carts with obvious errors anyone can see from a mile away (I've seen some Pokemon games in secondhand stores that are so obviously fake it's insane). If it's not legit, whoever made this repro put some effort into it. I read a site on how to tell if a SNES cartridge is authentic, and my copy of Link to the Past passes every one other than the back label and the board (I refuse to open up the cartridge). It has the product number code where the pin connector is, the game title on the label is clear, and the dot for the "i" in the Nintendo logo on the back is a square instead of a circle. And let's be real, it'd be hard to fake that kind of wear. I dunno. Repros (even of the more common but still valuable games like LttP) have been around long enough now that they would have some wear if they were played. I got a repro Mr. Gimmick cart (an NES game cancelled in the U.S. and stupid rare in PAL regions) and it looks more beat up than that LttP.
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Post by tirtefaa on Jan 10, 2024 10:13:53 GMT -5
(I refuse to open up the cartridge) Why? If you're truly concerned, then this is easily the best way to confirm it. The tool is like $2 and doesn't hurt the cart in any way. Repros can copy a lot of things, but they can't copy the board. Besides, it's not like your game looks to be in pristine shape to begin with if you're worried about losing value, which wouldn't happen.
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Post by SkullTrauma on Jan 10, 2024 12:41:59 GMT -5
if it plays the game, who even cares?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 10, 2024 15:54:11 GMT -5
I dunno. Repros (even of the more common but still valuable games like LttP) have been around long enough now that they would have some wear if they were played. Reproduction carts have been around since at least the early '00s and became extremely common around 2010-2011 when prices for legit carts started skyrocketing. So yeah, I'd figure any repro from that long ago would be pretty worn by now.
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Post by fg on Jan 10, 2024 18:55:15 GMT -5
if it plays the game, who even cares? This. If it was a very rare game like Nintendo World Championships 1990, then yeah I can see people caring if it was a reproduction cart
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Post by castletonsnob on Jan 10, 2024 19:02:31 GMT -5
Link to the Past was the 7th best-selling SNES game. It doesn't seem worth it to make a repro of it.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 10, 2024 19:03:19 GMT -5
if it plays the game, who even cares? If you paid a lot for what was sold as an authentic cart and learned it was a reproduction, you'd rightly feel pissed off about it.
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Post by castletonsnob on Jan 10, 2024 19:13:17 GMT -5
Someone told me to check PriceListing and compare the price to what price the seller is offering the game. Link to the Past on Amazon has the options of "Buy used for $49.99", or "Used for $44.99 & free shipping". The Loose Price for Link to the Past on PriceListing is $31.00.
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Post by Powerline on Jan 10, 2024 21:57:37 GMT -5
Someone told me to check PriceListing and compare the price to what price the seller is offering the game. Link to the Past on Amazon has the options of "Buy used for $49.99", or "Used for $44.99 & free shipping". The Loose Price for Link to the Past on PriceListing is $31.00. PriceListing/Price Charting all use the average price on sold/completed eBay listings. So it wouldn't factor in Amazon. Amazon sellers can be....odd. Some will ask WAY over the average price hoping they catch someone not doing their homework. Link to the Past was the 7th best-selling SNES game. It doesn't seem worth it to make a repro of it. It might be common and might have sold truckloads, but if it's in-demand in game stores and on eBay in the current day, that can EASILY shoot the value up. And if the value's hot, people will make repros of it and try to get a slice (whether passing the repro as legit or being open about it and selling for slightly less to get a slice of the action). That's why a ton of the best selling N64 games go for $50+. It's why Smash Bros. Melee and Mario Kart Double Dash (the #1 and #2 best selling U.S. GameCube games respectively) go in the $60-70 range complete-in-box even though the numbers show they're THE two most common games on the console. They still do repros of super-rare stuff for people just wanting to play the games (like the Mr. Gimmick repro I mentioned before). But trying to pass off a repro of a rare game as legit is next to impossible, considering anyone who'd pay what something like Panic Restaurant/Little Samson/Hagane is worth is going to dissect that cart with a fine-toothed comb. And many stores won't do a trade for them without checking that too once they see how much they should be giving a seller for those titles. But a Mario Kart or a Goldeneye or what have you...those will fly off the shelves and they get those often enough they don't want to dissect every one of those carts to check if it's legit.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 10, 2024 22:18:49 GMT -5
Someone told me to check PriceListing and compare the price to what price the seller is offering the game. Link to the Past on Amazon has the options of "Buy used for $49.99", or "Used for $44.99 & free shipping". The Loose Price for Link to the Past on PriceListing is $31.00. PriceListing/Price Charting all use the average price on sold/completed eBay listings. So it wouldn't factor in Amazon. Amazon sellers can be....odd. Some will ask WAY over the average price hoping they catch someone not doing their homework. Link to the Past was the 7th best-selling SNES game. It doesn't seem worth it to make a repro of it. It might be common and might have sold truckloads, but if it's in-demand in game stores and on eBay in the current day, that can EASILY shoot the value up. And if the value's hot, people will make repros of it and try to get a slice (whether passing the repro as legit or being open about it and selling for slightly less to get a slice of the action). That's why a ton of the best selling N64 games go for $50+. It's why Smash Bros. Melee and Mario Kart Double Dash (the #1 and #2 best selling U.S. GameCube games respectively) go in the $60-70 range complete-in-box even though the numbers show they're THE two most common games on the console. They still do repros of super-rare stuff for people just wanting to play the games (like the Mr. Gimmick repro I mentioned before). But trying to pass off a repro of a rare game as legit is next to impossible, considering anyone who'd pay what something like Panic Restaurant/Little Samson/Hagane is worth is going to dissect that cart with a fine-toothed comb. And many stores won't do a trade for them without checking that too once they see how much they should be giving a seller for those titles. But a Mario Kart or a Goldeneye or what have you...those will fly off the shelves and they get those often enough they don't want to dissect every one of those carts to check if it's legit. Nintendo first party games are called "evergreen" for that reason.
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