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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 27, 2024 17:38:18 GMT -5
1999 So twenty four years. Just around the time that a certain wrestler started dating the boss daughter irl. He would likely be exempt from the rules as an independent contractor. (at the time) STEPHANIE if she held a position of power at that time however.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Mar 27, 2024 18:03:18 GMT -5
Just around the time that a certain wrestler started dating the boss daughter irl. He would likely be exempt from the rules as an independent contractor. (at the time) STEPHANIE if she held a position of power at that time however. I'm easily confused these days but I'm pretty sure there's a level of irony in the fact Vince split them up for a period after deciding the relationship was inappropriate 🤣 Edit: actually this could be loaded with irony when you think on the nature of Vince's demise starting with Triple H and Steph's rumoured roles.
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Post by eJm on Mar 29, 2024 4:47:13 GMT -5
Vince sold another $100m of stock this week.
I’m still in the theory that, if something comes from this Federal investigation, he’s getting ready to pay any amount of bail that pops up since the Grant side aren’t interested in the money.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 29, 2024 8:04:48 GMT -5
Vince has seen what happened to his hall of famer buddy when chickens come home to roost legally and is building up a warchest just in case all the NDAs come crashing down. If he's hit by a big settlement, the TKO stock he holds would be impacted so he'd make less money selling up, so he's doing so now before the poop hits the fan. If the NDAs hold, he's got a mountain of money to splash around starting new ventures, or to buy back the WWE for pennies on the dollar should the rumours of vulture capitalists planning to dismantle Endeavour turn out to be true.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 29, 2024 9:54:04 GMT -5
Vince sold another $100m of stock this week. I’m still in the theory that, if something comes from this Federal investigation, he’s getting ready to pay any amount of bail that pops up since the Grant side aren’t interested in the money. He's going to need a huge amount for legal fees too.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 29, 2024 10:42:48 GMT -5
Yeah, he needs the money for not only the civil suit, but possible criminal charges. There's a non-zero chance he could actually see prison time and it seems like he realizes that.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Mar 29, 2024 10:45:36 GMT -5
Vince is going to **** off to Saudi Arabia or something to escape extradition and prosecution because literally dying in jail isn’t the way he wants to go out.
And within like a year and a half, folks are going to be rallying for him to be in the Hall of Fame along with Chris Benoit because there is a not-insignificant chunk of WWE fans who lack any sense of perspective.
Like I’m sorry that the guy who used to own and run that thing you liked as a kid turned out to be somehow worse than the on-screen version presented himself as. But if it’s any consolation, if he’d never entered the wrestling business, you’d probably enjoy said business even more and so would exponentially more fans and wrestlers.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Mar 29, 2024 10:48:44 GMT -5
Vince is going to **** off to Saudi Arabia or something to escape extradition and prosecution because literally dying in jail isn’t the way he wants to go out. And within like a year and a half, folks are going to be rallying for him to be in the Hall of Fame along with Chris Benoit because there is a not-insignificant chunk of WWE fans who lack any sense of perspective. Like I’m sorry that the guy who used to own and run that thing you liked as a kid turned out to be somehow worse than the on-screen version presented himself as. But if it’s any consolation, if he’d never entered the wrestling business, you’d probably enjoy said business even more and so would exponentially more fans and wrestlers. They want to stan for him, they can join him in lockup.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 29, 2024 11:41:48 GMT -5
It’s so wild to me that Vince, Diddy, and Dan Schneider/Nickelodean are all happening at the same time. Kat Williams was right
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 29, 2024 11:44:04 GMT -5
Vince isn't fleeing the country, he'll get pardoned if the year goes the way he hopes, if not, he'll string out any legal cases where he's in real jeopardy until he's able to pretend to be too old and infirm to stand trial. He's now a legitimate billionaire, no fudging of the books required, his assets are liquid and he can afford the best lawyers money can buy.
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Post by XIII on Mar 29, 2024 12:01:23 GMT -5
Vince is doing a couple of things here:
1) building a war chest for a prolonged legal battle 2) IF his Orange friend(not Hogan) doesn’t slither back in the billionaire tax cuts are likely to be gone. A lot of other billionaires are doing similar things with their assets at the moment. 3) outside chance that he’s going to do something completely insane with his money like buy Mr. Olympia or fund a robo suit so that his brain can live on forever.
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Post by fortknox on Mar 29, 2024 12:36:35 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 29, 2024 18:16:43 GMT -5
Vince isn't fleeing the country, he'll get pardoned if the year goes the way he hopes, if not, he'll string out any legal cases where he's in real jeopardy until he's able to pretend to be too old and infirm to stand trial. He's now a legitimate billionaire, no fudging of the books required, his assets are liquid and he can afford the best lawyers money can buy. I mean he still has the civil charges and any state level charges he'd have to deal with.
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Post by fw91 on Mar 29, 2024 19:12:03 GMT -5
Vince is going to **** off to Saudi Arabia or something to escape extradition and prosecution because literally dying in jail isn’t the way he wants to go out. And within like a year and a half, folks are going to be rallying for him to be in the Hall of Fame along with Chris Benoit because there is a not-insignificant chunk of WWE fans who lack any sense of perspective. Like I’m sorry that the guy who used to own and run that thing you liked as a kid turned out to be somehow worse than the on-screen version presented himself as. But if it’s any consolation, if he’d never entered the wrestling business, you’d probably enjoy said business even more and so would exponentially more fans and wrestlers. I'm not defending Vince as a human and he deserves to be locked up. But I think this brings up a very interesting discussion if we can take out emotions. I have a hard time believing fans of the boom periods would enjoy "terriorty era" wrasslin more than times of superheroes, villians, crash tv and high spots. But I'm willing to listen to a rebuttal. Would someone else come along? Would Turner even buy JCP? Again f*** Vince and as someone who was a big defender of who he put in main event slots, I'm no longer comfortable giving him credit for anything, but personal emotions aside, I'm not sure if this is a take that would be true.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 29, 2024 19:34:36 GMT -5
Vince is going to **** off to Saudi Arabia or something to escape extradition and prosecution because literally dying in jail isn’t the way he wants to go out. And within like a year and a half, folks are going to be rallying for him to be in the Hall of Fame along with Chris Benoit because there is a not-insignificant chunk of WWE fans who lack any sense of perspective. Like I’m sorry that the guy who used to own and run that thing you liked as a kid turned out to be somehow worse than the on-screen version presented himself as. But if it’s any consolation, if he’d never entered the wrestling business, you’d probably enjoy said business even more and so would exponentially more fans and wrestlers. I'm not defending Vince as a human and he deserves to be locked up. But I think this brings up a very interesting discussion if we can take out emotions. I have a hard time believing fans of the boom periods would enjoy "terriorty era" wrasslin more than times of superheroes, villians, crash tv and high spots. But I'm willing to listen to a rebuttal. Would someone else come along? Would Turner even buy JCP? Again f*** Vince and as someone who was a big defender of who he put in main event slots, I'm no longer comfortable giving him credit for anything, but personal emotions aside, I'm not sure if this is a take that would be true. The territorial era would've died and a national expansion would've happened regardless. Vince was the one who did it but if it hadn't been him it would've been someone else.
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Post by fw91 on Mar 29, 2024 19:38:52 GMT -5
I'm not defending Vince as a human and he deserves to be locked up. But I think this brings up a very interesting discussion if we can take out emotions. I have a hard time believing fans of the boom periods would enjoy "terriorty era" wrasslin more than times of superheroes, villians, crash tv and high spots. But I'm willing to listen to a rebuttal. Would someone else come along? Would Turner even buy JCP? Again f*** Vince and as someone who was a big defender of who he put in main event slots, I'm no longer comfortable giving him credit for anything, but personal emotions aside, I'm not sure if this is a take that would be true. The territorial era would've died and a national expansion would've happened regardless. Vince was the one who did it but if it hadn't been him it would've been someone else. But I'm guessing that person would have happened to be whoever had Hogan.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 29, 2024 19:40:35 GMT -5
I'm not defending Vince as a human and he deserves to be locked up. But I think this brings up a very interesting discussion if we can take out emotions. I have a hard time believing fans of the boom periods would enjoy "terriorty era" wrasslin more than times of superheroes, villians, crash tv and high spots. But I'm willing to listen to a rebuttal. Would someone else come along? Would Turner even buy JCP? Again f*** Vince and as someone who was a big defender of who he put in main event slots, I'm no longer comfortable giving him credit for anything, but personal emotions aside, I'm not sure if this is a take that would be true. The territorial era would've died and a national expansion would've happened regardless. Vince was the one who did it but if it hadn't been him it would've been someone else. Yeah, the whole "Vince killed the territories" is something the old timers talk about which is just flat out not true. They are mostly mad that they didn't do it first.. as several of them tried or were going to attempt to try, Vince just managed to do it successfully.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 29, 2024 19:42:29 GMT -5
The territorial era would've died and a national expansion would've happened regardless. Vince was the one who did it but if it hadn't been him it would've been someone else. But I'm guessing that person would have happened to be whoever had Hogan. Not necessarily, if they don't utilize promote or market Hogan like the WWF did. He was in the AWA and his biggest complaint was they weren't treating him like a star and wouldn't make him the Top Guy. Maybe Hogan leaves and goes somewhere else... but Vince's biggest asset was his promotional power. I think the two kinda needed each other.
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Post by fw91 on Mar 29, 2024 19:46:33 GMT -5
But I'm guessing that person would have happened to be whoever had Hogan. Not necessarily, if they don't utilize promote or market Hogan like the WWF did. He was in the AWA and his biggest complaint was they weren't treating him like a star and wouldn't make him the Top Guy. Yeah, (and I apologize if we're getting too off-topic perhaps this deserves a separate thread?) but when I'm doing the hindsight math, Hogan perhaps fit the bill the best because of his Thunderlips fame. I don't know if there was anyone with A-List celebrity appeal that could have lead national expansion. Maybe Dusty? Flair was too good aa a heel. Savage hadn't broke out on the scene just yet.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 29, 2024 19:47:08 GMT -5
Vince is going to **** off to Saudi Arabia or something to escape extradition and prosecution because literally dying in jail isn’t the way he wants to go out. And within like a year and a half, folks are going to be rallying for him to be in the Hall of Fame along with Chris Benoit because there is a not-insignificant chunk of WWE fans who lack any sense of perspective. Like I’m sorry that the guy who used to own and run that thing you liked as a kid turned out to be somehow worse than the on-screen version presented himself as. But if it’s any consolation, if he’d never entered the wrestling business, you’d probably enjoy said business even more and so would exponentially more fans and wrestlers. I'm not defending Vince as a human and he deserves to be locked up. But I think this brings up a very interesting discussion if we can take out emotions. I have a hard time believing fans of the boom periods would enjoy "terriorty era" wrasslin more than times of superheroes, villians, crash tv and high spots. But I'm willing to listen to a rebuttal. Would someone else come along? Would Turner even buy JCP? Again f*** Vince and as someone who was a big defender of who he put in main event slots, I'm no longer comfortable giving him credit for anything, but personal emotions aside, I'm not sure if this is a take that would be true. I’m sure things would have changed in the 90s. WCW went a different direction and became popular before wwf
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