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Post by cosmo on Mar 29, 2024 20:19:06 GMT -5
Vince is going to **** off to Saudi Arabia or something to escape extradition and prosecution because literally dying in jail isn’t the way he wants to go out.
I wonder if Vince is looking to see if there are any houses for sale in Roman Polanski's neighborhood.
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Post by fg on Mar 29, 2024 20:41:36 GMT -5
What’s the likelihood that Vince goes to jail forever?
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Post by Push R Truth on Mar 29, 2024 20:42:24 GMT -5
What’s the likelihood that Vince goes to jail forever? He's rich. The answer is zero.
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Post by fg on Mar 29, 2024 20:51:00 GMT -5
What’s the likelihood that Vince goes to jail forever? He's rich. The answer is zero. What a bummer. He deserves to be put in jail FOREVER and I’m hoping all the lawyers that he can get will not help him.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 29, 2024 20:52:37 GMT -5
What’s the likelihood that Vince goes to jail forever? He's rich. The answer is zero. I think if they can get P Diddy, there is a chance Vince can go down
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Post by Cyno on Mar 29, 2024 20:58:34 GMT -5
It's not like Vince McMahon invented the idea of faces and heels who had a lot of character that resonated with people. It's also not like Vince McMahon turned the WWWF from some rinky-dink high school gym indy into a national promotion. Vincent J did a ton of the groundwork and his promotion was probably the most likely to succeed on a national level from its inherent advantages as being THE New York territory. Even "Hulk Hogan" was originally an invention of Vincent J McMahon's and used the gimmick in New Japan and AWA.
Would Hulkamania been a thing without VKM at the helm? Not sure. But he was destined to become a big star in at least the wrestling world with or without him. Both Inoki and Vincent J saw something special in him.
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Post by fg on Mar 29, 2024 20:59:08 GMT -5
He's rich. The answer is zero. I think if they can get P Diddy, there is a chance Vince can go down I don’t think Puff Daddy is as rich as Vince and I don’t think he’s going to jail forever is he?
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Post by fw91 on Mar 29, 2024 21:04:01 GMT -5
He's rich. The answer is zero. What a bummer. He deserves to be put in jail FOREVER.
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Mar 29, 2024 23:36:42 GMT -5
What’s the likelihood that Vince goes to jail forever? He's rich. The answer is zero. Weinstein was rich.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 30, 2024 2:17:38 GMT -5
A lot of what we see about wrestling history doesn't happen they way it does without Vince doing what he did in the '80s. Like, if you take out just Vince going rogue and starting to fight the territories, I think a lot of the actions that hastened promotions' demises don't happen because that pressure isn't on them. World Class still has its tragedies, Verne probably still does Verne stuff, but Crockett? The entire consolidation of that power into Crockett's hands was a defense mechanism against the pressure Vince was putting on them. Even if some territories do consolidate, no Vince means no cutthroat PPV blocking to force them to lose money.
'80s WWF was the most '80s thing in the world. Someone would have gone there. Maybe whoever took over from Vince senior would have gone there. Vince's big idea was to push Hogan as a star, and a lot of the rest filled in from there. It was Captain Lou who met and suggested a program with Cyndi Lauper. The '80s were going to happen to wrestling no matter what. Maybe not as fast, and maybe consolidation doesn't go as fast because one guy doesn't accelarate it so instantly, but it was inevitable.
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Post by eJm on Mar 30, 2024 2:52:49 GMT -5
He's rich. The answer is zero. Weinstein was rich. Weinstein also was losing a lot of his power in circles after being where he was for so long so people used it as an opportunity to throw him throughly under the bus. He also had a tonne of other people coming out accusing him and eventually getting their cases in the suit. That really hasn’t happened with Vince right now. Even when he’s left the company, most people have been like “He’s great, he made me who I was and all of this is terrible to hear”.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 30, 2024 6:55:06 GMT -5
Not necessarily, if they don't utilize promote or market Hogan like the WWF did. He was in the AWA and his biggest complaint was they weren't treating him like a star and wouldn't make him the Top Guy. Yeah, (and I apologize if we're getting too off-topic perhaps this deserves a separate thread?) but when I'm doing the hindsight math, Hogan perhaps fit the bill the best because of his Thunderlips fame. I don't know if there was anyone with A-List celebrity appeal that could have lead national expansion. Maybe Dusty? Flair was too good aa a heel. Savage hadn't broke out on the scene just yet. I think if Vince didnt buy WWF/go national, Hogan probably would have gone back home and become Jim Crockett Promotions' biggest star instead.
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Post by cosmo on Mar 30, 2024 11:32:40 GMT -5
Weinstein also was losing a lot of his power in circles after being where he was for so long so people used it as an opportunity to throw him throughly under the bus. He also had a tonne of other people coming out accusing him and eventually getting their cases in the suit. That really hasn’t happened with Vince right now. Even when he’s left the company, most people have been like “He’s great, he made me who I was and all of this is terrible to hear”.
Yeah, that's a big difference. It's like how Roman Polanski still gets to make movies and win Oscars, because people don't run his name through the mud like with Harvey Weinstein.
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Post by Legion on Mar 30, 2024 11:37:40 GMT -5
Vince has seen what happened to his hall of famer buddy when chickens come home to roost legally and is building up a warchest just in case all the NDAs come crashing down. If he's hit by a big settlement, the TKO stock he holds would be impacted so he'd make less money selling up, so he's doing so now before the poop hits the fan. If the NDAs hold, he's got a mountain of money to splash around starting new ventures, or to buy back the WWE for pennies on the dollar should the rumours of vulture capitalists planning to dismantle Endeavour turn out to be true.You know that's the plan somewhere in his head.
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Post by fg on Mar 30, 2024 13:52:31 GMT -5
Vince has seen what happened to his hall of famer buddy when chickens come home to roost legally and is building up a warchest just in case all the NDAs come crashing down. If he's hit by a big settlement, the TKO stock he holds would be impacted so he'd make less money selling up, so he's doing so now before the poop hits the fan. If the NDAs hold, he's got a mountain of money to splash around starting new ventures, or to buy back the WWE for pennies on the dollar should the rumours of vulture capitalists planning to dismantle Endeavour turn out to be true.You know that's the plan somewhere in his head. Pardon my paranoia but what’s the likelihood of that happening?
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Post by eJm on Mar 30, 2024 13:57:33 GMT -5
Pardon my paranoia but what’s the likelihood of that happening? Allegedly (key word there, allegedly), Silver Lake (a company with 71% stake in Endeavor as a company) is looking to aquire them or at least put in the steps to try and do so. If it were to happen, and they haven’t really started doing anything yet so all of this is just theory, they could look into selling a lot of assets to help the company get back on track after a rocky end to 2023. In this scenario, this could include selling the WWE, the library and anything else that it has which would lead to Vince buying it back. Now, again, a lot of pieces have to fall to make it happen and Vince could end up in jail and hinder any of that but that’s the scenario.
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Post by thirteen3 on Mar 30, 2024 14:00:03 GMT -5
What’s the likelihood that Vince goes to jail forever? A factor to keep in mind is that he's pretty old now, and this must be stressful for him... ...just making an observation, that is not wishing death.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 30, 2024 19:51:40 GMT -5
Pardon my paranoia but what’s the likelihood of that happening? Allegedly (key word there, allegedly), Silver Lake (a company with 71% stake in Endeavor as a company) is looking to aquire them or at least put in the steps to try and do so. If it were to happen, and they haven’t really started doing anything yet so all of this is just theory, they could look into selling a lot of assets to help the company get back on track after a rocky end to 2023. In this scenario, this could include selling the WWE, the library and anything else that it has which would lead to Vince buying it back. Now, again, a lot of pieces have to fall to make it happen and Vince could end up in jail and hinder any of that but that’s the scenario. So it’s a non-zero chance, but at the same time probably not worth trying to work ones self into a shoot about at this point in time.
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Post by eJm on Mar 31, 2024 1:38:48 GMT -5
So it’s a non-zero chance, but at the same time probably not worth trying to work ones self into a shoot about at this point in time. Exactly. A lot, and I mean a lot, of dominos would need to fall for any remote chance for that to happen.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 31, 2024 1:44:48 GMT -5
So it’s a non-zero chance, but at the same time probably not worth trying to work ones self into a shoot about at this point in time. Exactly. A lot, and I mean a lot, of dominos would need to fall for any remote chance for that to happen. and let's be honest if they sell there is also nothing saying like... Stephanie couldn't also bid for it.
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