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Post by longtimelurker29 on Apr 17, 2024 15:25:12 GMT -5
I know people are going to be mad at the Rock and Cena for still keeping in touch with Vince but they’ve known the man for 30 and 20 years.
That relationship isn’t going to end over night and tbh it would be hard for many people to just give up relationships like that.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Apr 17, 2024 15:29:24 GMT -5
I know people are going to be mad at the Rock and Cena for still keeping in touch with Vince but they’ve known the man for 30 and 20 years. That relationship isn’t going to end over night and tbh it would be hard for many people to just give up relationships like that. I dunno man, I feel like if "im being federally investigated for literally coercing people into letting me shit on them" came up between me and a friend i'd start questioning what i'd been doing this long and if I needed to know them any deeper
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Post by markymark on Apr 17, 2024 15:41:01 GMT -5
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Post by longtimelurker29 on Apr 17, 2024 15:48:20 GMT -5
I know people are going to be mad at the Rock and Cena for still keeping in touch with Vince but they’ve known the man for 30 and 20 years. That relationship isn’t going to end over night and tbh it would be hard for many people to just give up relationships like that. I dunno man, I feel like if "im being federally investigated for literally coercing people into letting me shit on them" came up between me and a friend i'd start questioning what i'd been doing this long and if I needed to know them any deeper That’s you man. It’s easy to say how any of would react. It’s different thing entirely to be in that situation. Humans and relationships are complex.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Apr 17, 2024 15:53:11 GMT -5
Is it too much to say that it's kind of gross that a female lawyer agreed to represent Vince? Not to take away her agency, but considering the nature of the accusations, no woman on the planet should want to take up for his cause. By that logic all female jurors should vote guilty regardless if its proven true or false and if its a female judge she should be convicting Vince. "You're right, we should only work with good guys."
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Post by XIII on Apr 17, 2024 18:26:26 GMT -5
Cena has always been something of a Vince/WWE stooge so I’m not much surprised but I’m actually kind of surprised about the Rock if for no other reason than everything that he does is so carefully planned out for maximum PR/marketing that he may as well be an AI bot.
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Post by Casey Jones on Apr 17, 2024 18:57:33 GMT -5
I know people are going to be mad at the Rock and Cena for still keeping in touch with Vince but they’ve known the man for 30 and 20 years. That relationship isn’t going to end over night and tbh it would be hard for many people to just give up relationships like that. I dunno man, I feel like if "im being federally investigated for literally coercing people into letting me shit on them" came up between me and a friend i'd start questioning what i'd been doing this long and if I needed to know them any deeper I had a long term friend accused of horrible things. I felt like I knew him pretty well and refused take sides before any undeniable facts came out. Trial date came. Woman confessed on the stand that she made the whole thing up. I'm glad I didn't turn my back on him like pretty much everyone else did. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 17, 2024 19:01:40 GMT -5
I wish that in True Detective, when Rust did his "time is a flat circle" speech and messed with an aluminum can that he'd instead opened it up and smashed it into his forehead over and over like Sandman. It really would've been the perfect, ultimate wrestling board gif.
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Post by chrom on Apr 17, 2024 19:08:36 GMT -5
I dunno man, I feel like if "im being federally investigated for literally coercing people into letting me shit on them" came up between me and a friend i'd start questioning what i'd been doing this long and if I needed to know them any deeper I had a long term friend accused of horrible things. I felt like I knew him pretty well and refused take sides before any undeniable facts came out. Trial date came. Woman confessed on the stand that she made the whole thing up. I'm glad I didn't turn my back on him like pretty much everyone else did. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?It went the way of the Dodo.
Now you're guilty automatically and even if you're proven innocent you are still deemed guilty.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 17, 2024 19:31:19 GMT -5
I dunno man, I feel like if "im being federally investigated for literally coercing people into letting me shit on them" came up between me and a friend i'd start questioning what i'd been doing this long and if I needed to know them any deeper I had a long term friend accused of horrible things. I felt like I knew him pretty well and refused take sides before any undeniable facts came out. Trial date came. Woman confessed on the stand that she made the whole thing up. I'm glad I didn't turn my back on him like pretty much everyone else did. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? He paid the person currently suing him and a slew of other people for their silence with company money according to an investigation run by an organisation he was a major shareholder in, one that would have loved to have been able to give him a pass. He also paid out millions to settle a rape case where the victim had been open and consistent about what happened to her for a long, long time. I think we're past the point where Vince deserves the benefit of the doubt, people gave him that for decades and a lot of people got hurt at a result.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Apr 17, 2024 19:47:10 GMT -5
Is it too much to say that it's kind of gross that a female lawyer agreed to represent Vince? Not to take away her agency, but considering the nature of the accusations, no woman on the planet should want to take up for his cause. I understand the sentiment, but no. Needless to say it wouldn't be a good development for the court of public opinion to decide who gets fair representation and who doesn't. Even the worst people deserve to be able to make a robust defence.
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Post by Starshine on Apr 17, 2024 19:49:58 GMT -5
Oh god...I can only imagine what'd he'd call the company. Real Alpha Pugnacious Entertainment.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 17, 2024 20:11:59 GMT -5
I dunno man, I feel like if "im being federally investigated for literally coercing people into letting me shit on them" came up between me and a friend i'd start questioning what i'd been doing this long and if I needed to know them any deeper I had a long term friend accused of horrible things. I felt like I knew him pretty well and refused take sides before any undeniable facts came out. Trial date came. Woman confessed on the stand that she made the whole thing up. I'm glad I didn't turn my back on him like pretty much everyone else did. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? Innocent until proven guilty is a legal standard for the criminal court system and it still exists. It has nothing to do with the court of public opinion and people are free to believe someone did something, especially when there is as much evidence as is already readily available with regards to this case.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Apr 17, 2024 20:46:39 GMT -5
oy vey....
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 17, 2024 21:23:13 GMT -5
I had a long term friend accused of horrible things. I felt like I knew him pretty well and refused take sides before any undeniable facts came out. Trial date came. Woman confessed on the stand that she made the whole thing up. I'm glad I didn't turn my back on him like pretty much everyone else did. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? Innocent until proven guilty is a legal standard for the criminal court system and it still exists. It has nothing to do with the court of public opinion and people are free to believe someone did something, especially when there is as much evidence as is already readily available with regards to this case. Especially when the legal standard isn't "Present definitive proof that there's no way this could have ever happened".
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 17, 2024 21:48:25 GMT -5
Big oof to Cena and the Rock still keeping in contact with Vince, but I guess it’s not too much of a surprise and I can see them having some sort of loyalty to him for turning them into superstars Yeah, one thing to remember is that Vince also groomed those around him to see him as great, and anybody going after him as an enemy.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Apr 17, 2024 21:49:46 GMT -5
is anybodys friend the former head of a massive entertainment group in collusion with saudi arabian royalty
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Post by markymark on Apr 17, 2024 22:02:53 GMT -5
Sherman again said Vince is still in touch with Cena and Rock besides Vince being "done done" with WWE.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 17, 2024 23:44:41 GMT -5
One thing I wanna know is how do people know Vince is still in touch with Cena and the Rock? I would think they’d wanna keep that private, especially the Rock
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 18, 2024 3:54:55 GMT -5
Cena has always been something of a Vince/WWE stooge so I’m not much surprised but I’m actually kind of surprised about the Rock if for no other reason than everything that he does is so carefully planned out for maximum PR/marketing that he may as well be an AI bot. The Rock has said a lot of things recently that have soured a lot of people's view of him... and we really can't go too much further into what it is on this board. There's also the "I can't lose ever." clause in his movie contracts... which is absurd, especially when he signs on to play bad guys.
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