No Longer a Produceman
Dennis Stamp
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on May 14, 2024 19:47:19 GMT -5
Wouldn’t the arbitration agreement be null and void seeing as Vince violated said agreement by not paying up?
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Post by polarbearpete on May 14, 2024 20:00:36 GMT -5
Wouldn’t the arbitration agreement be null and void seeing as Vince violated said agreement by not paying up? Depends on the terms of the agreement they signed but I assume the arbitration clause said that any claims that either side violated the agreement must go to arbitration.
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markymark
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by markymark on May 14, 2024 20:19:22 GMT -5
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fg
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Post by fg on May 14, 2024 20:59:00 GMT -5
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Post by ChitownKnight on May 14, 2024 21:36:47 GMT -5
The answer is the same as his theme song. On a side note, imagine even 2 years ago thinking that Vince will never be mentioned in wwe programming again while CM Punk is in the company
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on May 14, 2024 21:38:24 GMT -5
I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt in situations where we only see one side of a conversation. But as soon as that person says 'yeah, they were awful texts sent to me, so awful I deleted them even though they could totally prove my innocence!' I need that 'Sure Jan' gif right now... If there's one person who never deserves the benefit of the doubt, it's VKM.
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fg
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Post by fg on May 14, 2024 21:58:48 GMT -5
The answer is the same as his theme song. On a side note, imagine even 2 years ago thinking that Vince will never be mentioned in wwe programming again while CM Punk is in the company Imagine the thought that four years ago that Vince was going to LEAVE the company while being alive? I think that we all thought he was NEVER going to retire. For years we all thought it was the Hollywood (non-wrestling) writers who were responsible for the bad product. Turns out that it wasn’t them. It was Vince and his constant changing the script at the last minute which caused the writers STRESS as they had to write the product at the last minute which caused them to get upset and quit. Who could blame them for being upset? I know I would be.
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Post by fg on May 14, 2024 21:59:55 GMT -5
The answer is the same as his theme song. On a side note, imagine even 2 years ago thinking that Vince will never be mentioned in wwe programming again while CM Punk is in the company I am hoping you ain’t talk8ng about Stand Back.
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El Pollo Guerrera
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His name has chicken in it, and he is good at makin' .gifs, so that's cool.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on May 14, 2024 22:04:35 GMT -5
[/div][/quote] Quick question: can you have a legal contract to enforce something that is illegal? Because I've heard you can't. (unless daytime court TV is lying to me... which is possible...)
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Post by LiamMcDuggle on May 15, 2024 0:19:43 GMT -5
If he just paid the original NDA, this likely would have never happened. For all the things that could have taken him down, it ended up being his own ego
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 15, 2024 0:29:32 GMT -5
Right Vince, we truly believe what you say /s...
Always a thing innocent people do; delete evidence. I mean I delete random texts all the time... but I also not having an affair and using company funds or anything shady like that in my texts... also I bet Vince is the kinda guy that thinks that Text's are gone if you delete them. They aren't... it's just a matter if the phone company is willing to honor a subpoena for the records.
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Post by eJm on May 15, 2024 0:41:09 GMT -5
The thing with WWE’s argument is that it’s very reliant on Vince having agreed to go through with the terms of the NDA and keep up with the payments to Janel Grant to prevent anything from coming out so they can say she voided it by filing suit.
Ignoring the “under duress” parts and the fact that she’s saying it’s voided because of the Speak Out act, Vince didn’t do that. This whole thing is happening partially because the payments that were agreed to did not happen. The other stuff just makes the entire thing worse only because some of it was things we knew from other suits and things we could probably tell went on from watching the product from, say, 2001 to as far as 2019.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 15, 2024 1:42:43 GMT -5
Right Vince, we truly believe what you say /s...
Deliberately misleading headline that undermines Janel Grant. What f***ing pricks
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Legion
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Post by Legion on May 15, 2024 2:44:47 GMT -5
If he wins, I dont think he'll be back behind the scenes in any meaningful way, but they might not completely damnatio memoriae him and he could get his HOF spot, but I think that would be the extent of it. The spell's broken, he's no longer needed, he can no longer be seen as essential to the WWE and it's success. Quite the opposite is now true. His image and his legacy are both shot to shit and he's no one to blame but himself and his own greed and filth.
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Post by eJm on May 15, 2024 7:00:54 GMT -5
As pointed out, there was a feeling in Wall Street for years that, even though they didn’t like how Vince worked, if he wasn’t leading WWE, that would be the end of WWE. It’s why USA wanted the McMahons everywhere, it’s why he was the vocal point of the Saudi deal and TV negotiations (until the FOX one where HHH and Steph lead), he was the glue holding the company together.
Then he didn’t tell the company about the dozens of NDAs. Then he forced himself back in all just to get the TKO deal to happen which you can argue right now hasn’t been going super well overall but it is all being carried by WWE. Like, yeah, Vince laid the groundwork but remember, the moment he left, it was all supposed to fall apart but if anything, TV companies liked Nick Khan and HHH better. So did sponsors. We see more companies advertising with WWE than ever before all because they’re willing to work with them and not the old dude on top.
Along with that, if it wasn’t for the pandemic, we’d be seeing a downturn in interest with TV ratings and attendances sliding because the product wasn’t hot and no stars were really being made. And that dude is now 5 years older and could at any point be arrested by the FBI. Who wants to work with that guy?
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Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 15, 2024 7:03:54 GMT -5
Vince, Brock, and Johnny (so far) can all f*** off to some remote island with little-to-no-civilization on it.
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Brood Lone Wolf Funker
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on May 15, 2024 8:04:37 GMT -5
Right Vince, we truly believe what you say /s...
Deliberately misleading headline that undermines Janel Grant. What f***ing pricks It's the New York Post which is one of the shittiest papers in NY, rats won't even use it to build their nests with
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 15, 2024 9:56:07 GMT -5
"She was given a lawyer by Vince which poisons it."
Underrated piece of horror right here.
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Post by eJm on May 15, 2024 10:28:33 GMT -5
"She was given a lawyer by Vince which poisons it." Underrated piece of horror right here. It's a wild sentence to admit because they're basically saying "Hey, we trusted this NDA, to be signed by her, to one of the lawyers for the person establishing the NDA and there's nothing shady about that, everything is above board". The lawyer might as well be a gun to her back to sign it because what was she going to do in that situation that wasn't going to jeopardies her career and livelihood?
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Post by polarbearpete on May 15, 2024 10:45:19 GMT -5
"She was given a lawyer by Vince which poisons it." Underrated piece of horror right here. I saw the tweet summarizing the filing which said that sentence, but I didn’t see that in the filing itself. I wonder if that’s how he’s interpreting the paragraph that said Vince “approved of” her using that attorney.
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