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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 1, 2024 18:08:21 GMT -5
You know it's an AEW PPV weekend when the random drama bullshit starts lol With the few weeks every other promotion in the world has had, AEW is just lucky its random drama bullshit is Miro being passive-aggressive again in the grumpy corner, because after months of hearing about how AEW has the sloppiest shop in town last year, it's been refreshing to have pretty much nothing go down while the sky falls everywhere else.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 1, 2024 18:32:30 GMT -5
I understand not wanting to set some precedent of giving early releases to certain people who simply act crazy but Miro has done next to nothing outside of being an asshole. Where’s the line?
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 1, 2024 19:20:49 GMT -5
I would love to know where in time the decision was finalized to let Andrade go to WWE. Like, did Tony decide "You can go, but do this tournament first?" and still bother to make Andrade look good and score some wins on his way out? He went out on his back in the final match, sure, but he finished in the top half of his block and that's a lot of TV time to put into someone who adamantly doesn't want to be there, has been a disciplinary bother, and who is let loose days later anyway. If this was WWE, saying you want to go would get you jobbed out for a few weeks then taken off of TV for fourteen months and set loose due to 'budget cuts' after intentionally wasting a stretch of your life span and physical prime unable to work. Tony gave Andrade the dead opposite of that. Like, would Tony offer that kind of deal to Miro? Would Miro even take it if it involved losing? This is all so weird.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 1, 2024 19:31:13 GMT -5
I just wanna know where Miro suddenly just hated the idea of ever losing matches ever
Like he lost fine before, but then that Danielson match happened where he had to sub in and lose, and also got injured, and it just seems to have f***ed up his mentality for this beyond all repair
He signed a like 4 year extension in 2022 and has wrestled like 11 matches since then, no ability to create momentum because he decided he just can't ever lose a match again
Sorry dude, but if you really wanna go back to WWE, I have terrible news about how you'll be forced to be booked...
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Post by Cyno on Mar 1, 2024 19:42:50 GMT -5
You know it's an AEW PPV weekend when the random drama bullshit starts lol With the few weeks every other promotion in the world has had, AEW is just lucky its random drama bullshit is Miro being passive-aggressive again in the grumpy corner, because after months of hearing about how AEW has the sloppiest shop in town last year, it's been refreshing to have pretty much nothing go down while the sky falls everywhere else. WWE - Everything Vince McMahon. TNA - Locker room pissed off about Scott D'Amore's firing. NJPW - Lost one of the biggest stars in company history and have to reconfigure their long term plans. AAA - Konnan being Konnan. CMLL - Forgot how visas worked. AEW - Pissy Bulgarian.
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Post by Ryushinku on Mar 1, 2024 19:48:40 GMT -5
Please let's not tempt fate like this...!
This year needs to calm the hell down.
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Post by jm on Mar 1, 2024 20:33:38 GMT -5
Please let's not tempt fate like this...! This year needs to calm the hell down. Okada leaving New Japan was the prelude to this year and its craziness.
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Post by yokohamacpfc on Mar 1, 2024 20:53:11 GMT -5
If WWE sign him they are going to use him to put people over. It’ll be like the second runs of Chris Masters, Gail Kim, Del Rio etc. “Remember this guy? He’s back and the new guys we’ve been pushing are going to kick his ass!”
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Post by The anti-ratings Luddite on Mar 1, 2024 21:31:41 GMT -5
I understand not wanting to set some precedent of giving early releases to certain people who simply act crazy but Miro has done next to nothing outside of being an asshole. Where’s the line? It blows my mind that in a company that has: Danielson, Moxley, Kenny Omega, Christian, Adam Copeland, Jericho, Fenix, Pentagon, The Young Bucks, and a litany of other talents that are battle tested and proven... the guy who's basically "What if Ivan Koloff existed today?" is the one who refuses to lose a fake wrestling match.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 2, 2024 5:11:46 GMT -5
Yeah, just let Miro go at this point. Dude is nothing but a reliability because you can't make any real plans for him because he'll just seemingly completely arbitrarily nope out of all of them.
Like, I'm a huge fan of him as a talent, I want to see him as a main event player, but between how continually absent he's been the past couple of years and his attitude I could live with never seeing him again at this point. But enough about Malakai I guess.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 2, 2024 5:31:39 GMT -5
Yeah, just let Miro go at this point. Dude is nothing but a reliability because you can't make any real plans for him because he'll just seemingly completely arbitrarily nope out of all of them. Like, I'm a huge fan of him as a talent, I want to see him as a main event player, but between how continually absent he's been the past couple of years and his attitude I could live with never seeing him again at this point. But enough about Malakai I guess. Malakai isn't even fair, he's been around, he took one mental health break (F*** Raj Giri for leaking that by the way) and while he hasn't wrestled a lot singles wise he's had a Trios Title reign and even beat The Elite for the belts with House of Black, been I'd say damn near somewhere weekly consistently. He has objectively been more willing to do stuff, be in feuds, and even lose like he did against Garcia then Miro has doing... literally anything.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 2, 2024 5:34:00 GMT -5
Yeah, just let Miro go at this point. Dude is nothing but a reliability because you can't make any real plans for him because he'll just seemingly completely arbitrarily nope out of all of them. Like, I'm a huge fan of him as a talent, I want to see him as a main event player, but between how continually absent he's been the past couple of years and his attitude I could live with never seeing him again at this point. But enough about Malakai I guess. Malakai isn't even fair, he's been around, he took one mental health break (F*** Raj Giri for leaking that by the way) and while he hasn't wrestled a lot singles wise he's had a Trios Title reign and even beat The Elite for the belts with House of Black, been I'd say damn near somewhere weekly consistently. He has objectively been more willing to do stuff, be in feuds, and even lose like he did against Garcia then Miro has doing... literally anything. I really just threw that part in as a joke. Malakai pretty clearly doesn't want to be there but yeah, he's nowhere near as much of a problem as Miro is.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 2, 2024 6:33:43 GMT -5
Malakai isn't even fair, he's been around, he took one mental health break (F*** Raj Giri for leaking that by the way) and while he hasn't wrestled a lot singles wise he's had a Trios Title reign and even beat The Elite for the belts with House of Black, been I'd say damn near somewhere weekly consistently. He has objectively been more willing to do stuff, be in feuds, and even lose like he did against Garcia then Miro has doing... literally anything. I really just threw that part in as a joke. Malakai pretty clearly doesn't want to be there but yeah, he's nowhere near as much of a problem as Miro is. Reports are he isn't gonna re-up yeah, but at least Malaki will work up and down the card in a realistic manner Gave Bryan Keith a great singles match, feuds with Daniel Garcia to help elevate him and succeeded, Mark Briscoe Feud is lower on the card but fun so far This is the kind of shit Miro could be doing at bare minimum, as it stands, he's doing less than ANDRADE was at this point.
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Post by Moppy on Mar 2, 2024 6:41:28 GMT -5
I don't want to pile too much on Miro, as we really don't know all the details of his situation. But the fact of the matter is that he's been under AEW contract for 3 1/2 years and only worked 36 matches for them.
And 20 of those matches were in 2021!
Whichever way you cut it, that's not been a success.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 2, 2024 7:10:32 GMT -5
With the few weeks every other promotion in the world has had, AEW is just lucky its random drama bullshit is Miro being passive-aggressive again in the grumpy corner, because after months of hearing about how AEW has the sloppiest shop in town last year, it's been refreshing to have pretty much nothing go down while the sky falls everywhere else. WWE - Everything Vince McMahon. TNA - Locker room pissed off about Scott D'Amore's firing. NJPW - Lost one of the biggest stars in company history and have to reconfigure their long term plans. AAA - Konnan being Konnan. CMLL - Forgot how visas worked. AEW - Pissy Bulgarian.
And Stardom firing Rossy over an attempted schism, and the major walkout looming on the horizon over that fact.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 3, 2024 8:46:10 GMT -5
My thing is this: what difference would it make if AEW lets Miro go and he goes back to WWE? I understand Tony believes it’s about “precedent” and all that crap. However , I just don’t see why that’s so important to require paying someone millions of dollars to sit at home and act like a douchebag on social media.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 3, 2024 8:56:28 GMT -5
I would love to know where in time the decision was finalized to let Andrade go to WWE. Like, did Tony decide "You can go, but do this tournament first?" and still bother to make Andrade look good and score some wins on his way out? He went out on his back in the final match, sure, but he finished in the top half of his block and that's a lot of TV time to put into someone who adamantly doesn't want to be there, has been a disciplinary bother, and who is let loose days later anyway. If this was WWE, saying you want to go would get you jobbed out for a few weeks then taken off of TV for fourteen months and set loose due to 'budget cuts' after intentionally wasting a stretch of your life span and physical prime unable to work. Tony gave Andrade the dead opposite of that. Like, would Tony offer that kind of deal to Miro? Would Miro even take it if it involved losing? This is all so weird. I think his contract was expiring and Andrade had an option that he could exercise but didn’t. Not sure why the push, though.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 3, 2024 8:57:30 GMT -5
My thing is this: what difference would it make if AEW lets Miro go and he goes back to WWE? I understand Tony believes it’s about “precedent” and all that crap. However , I just don’t see why that’s so important to require paying someone millions of dollars to sit at home and act like a douchebag on social media. Yeah it’s not like WWE is in desperate need of talent. I’m not even sure where a returning Rusev would fit in. Certainly lower on the card than he probably thinks he deserves.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 3, 2024 10:13:44 GMT -5
I would love to know where in time the decision was finalized to let Andrade go to WWE. Like, did Tony decide "You can go, but do this tournament first?" and still bother to make Andrade look good and score some wins on his way out? He went out on his back in the final match, sure, but he finished in the top half of his block and that's a lot of TV time to put into someone who adamantly doesn't want to be there, has been a disciplinary bother, and who is let loose days later anyway. If this was WWE, saying you want to go would get you jobbed out for a few weeks then taken off of TV for fourteen months and set loose due to 'budget cuts' after intentionally wasting a stretch of your life span and physical prime unable to work. Tony gave Andrade the dead opposite of that. Like, would Tony offer that kind of deal to Miro? Would Miro even take it if it involved losing? This is all so weird. I think his contract was expiring and Andrade had an option that he could exercise but didn’t. Not sure why the push, though. Reading between the lines, basically Andrade for all the headaches he can cause basically committed to giving it his all on the way out, and TK decided that for the C2 using him for good matches was best. Sounds like for the ups and downs Andrade at least left AEW on good terms
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Mar 3, 2024 19:23:00 GMT -5
Miro has been such an absolute douchenozzle (are we allowed to call people douchenozzles her?) almost ever since he came to AEW. I've been in favor of AEW making an example out of him - put him on pure jobber duty with plain black tights, no theme music and no offense allowed, while extending his contract to make sure they get as much of their money's worth out of him as they can. People usually object by saying it'd be bad for locker room morale, but Miro's spent so much time big leaguing everybody in the promotion and the promotion itself, I'm not sure it wouldn't be good for morale instead.
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