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Post by LiamMcDuggle on Mar 9, 2024 20:56:06 GMT -5
He was over, I don't want to take that away from him, but since WWE "erased" him, it made me realize that how little I've noticed/cared. He's main evented the 3rd most Mania's, and almost none of them seem that important in hindsight. When Benoit was erased, it was very apparent. When Bret was softly erased after Montreal, it was also very noticable. With Brock, it has not impacted anything whatsoever.
Outside of Rock/Austin, the only other pair to wrestle 3x at Mania has been Roman/Brock, and compared to the story of Rock/Austin, Brock's main events don't even seem to move the needle in comparison.
While fans always believed Brock as a main eventer, it really feels like he's never really had a match/story that has impacted the WWE as a whole. Yeah the streak was a big deal, but that had more to do with Taker, than Brock.
It just feels kinda weird a guy who main evented so many big shows, just isn't a huge loss to the company.
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Post by Spider2024 on Mar 9, 2024 21:05:25 GMT -5
Brock who?
Seriously though, it seems like the 'super final boss' characteristic stuck to him in more ways than one. He was like a Bahamut or a really powerful dragon in a Final Fantasy game, only showing up when a big challenge is needed for someone else.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 9, 2024 21:08:51 GMT -5
I mean I think his mania 19 main event, losing the title to Eddie, ending the streak, and squashing Cena were all pretty iconic moments. But all his other mania main events were inconsequential I agree. The first Roman/Brock main event was more Seth’s cash in, the mania 34 and 38 main events were forgettable, and Drew s coronation happened during the pandemic. Also gotta disagree on Benoit, the only notable thing in his career was the Mania 20 ending
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Post by Nosnorb on Mar 9, 2024 21:56:15 GMT -5
It just feels kinda weird a guy who main evented so many big shows, just isn't a huge loss to the company. Lesnar lost his feud with Roman, lost his feud with Cody and pretty much lost his feud with Lashley. Couple that with him being on the decline in terms of conditioning (dude drenched the ring in sweat and needed rest spots against Cody), and that's why it feels like Beastie Boy isn't a huge loss. His plans this year were going to be making Dirty Dom cry for his Mami at the Elimination Chamber and taking on Gunther for the IC title, which gives you some idea of how far Brock has fallen. I know how much Gunther has elevated that title, but for almost all of the career of Lesnar, it felt like a midcard title was well beneath him.
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Post by Casey Jones (AKA MrThrowback) on Mar 9, 2024 23:22:41 GMT -5
He's back on the WWE roster page
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Post by hassanchop on Mar 9, 2024 23:28:45 GMT -5
He's back on the WWE roster page They're not gonna have him act like a pervy Jerry Lawler are they?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 9, 2024 23:36:00 GMT -5
He's back on the WWE roster page I don’t think they ever took him off?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 9, 2024 23:41:00 GMT -5
They definitely never took Brock off. I've been routinely checking to see if they did. People just for some reason just now noticed and are making a thing of it.
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Post by Casey Jones (AKA MrThrowback) on Mar 9, 2024 23:48:38 GMT -5
They definitely never took Brock off. I've been routinely checking to see if they did. People just for some reason just now noticed and are making a thing of it. Ah ok. I never actually checked if he was gone. I was just told her was.
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Post by King Devitt on Mar 9, 2024 23:55:50 GMT -5
I mean I think his mania 19 main event, losing the title to Eddie, ending the streak, and squashing Cena were all pretty iconic moments. But all his other mania main events were inconsequential I agree. The first Roman/Brock main event was more Seth’s cash in, the mania 34 and 38 main events were forgettable, and Drew s coronation happened during the pandemic. Also gotta disagree on Benoit, the only notable thing in his career was the Mania 20 endingYeah, the Benoit mention kinda made me go "heh?"
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 10, 2024 1:34:53 GMT -5
They definitely never took Brock off. I've been routinely checking to see if they did. People just for some reason just now noticed and are making a thing of it. Only thing he’s been taken off has been Supercard and as a fully playable character in WWE 2K24 (excepting Showcase mode).
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Post by HIM on Mar 10, 2024 1:39:01 GMT -5
That's a booking issue. Had his booking been great and had he actually not held the main roster hostage for all these years his removal would be impactful. Say they randomly tried to remove Seth for example. Guaranteed you'd feel that.
I'm glad we can erase Brock like this. He's a piece of shit.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 10, 2024 6:15:59 GMT -5
That's a booking issue. Had his booking been great and had he actually not held the main roster hostage for all these years his removal would be impactful. Say they randomly tried to remove Seth for example. Guaranteed you'd feel that. I'm glad we can erase Brock like this. He's a piece of shit. Yeah. As someone who previously considered Brock my second favourite wrestler ever, good, wipe him like the piece of shit he is
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 10, 2024 6:40:32 GMT -5
It's probably being helped by how 1), Brock vanishing for long stretches of time including during Mania season isn't really that unusual to begin with, and 2), the Cody match felt like about as natural as a write-off as you could really do for his character anyway.
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Mar 10, 2024 6:49:16 GMT -5
To be honest I think outside of the Gunther match, there wasn’t much more for Brock to do other than being a special attraction.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Mar 10, 2024 7:10:31 GMT -5
Given that he was basically the next “guy” after Rock/Austin, he’s the first FOTC that wasn’t ever branded as larger than the WWE. As a result of the Monday Night Wars, Vince basically nerf’ed guys popularity so that no one star would ever be bigger than the company. Just my opinion.
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Post by government mule on Mar 10, 2024 7:25:47 GMT -5
It'll be curious to see how they pivot around the Heyman HoF induction without mentioning him, but his prolonged periods of inactivity help make him forgettable for the most part, and the likely thing about it all is that I don't think Brock will give a shit either way, holed up in his off-grid Canadian log cabin.
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Post by Nosnorb on Mar 10, 2024 7:28:04 GMT -5
Also gotta disagree on Benoit, the only notable thing in his career was the Mania 20 ending What the f***? Dude had a big impact in WWE, during the attitude era he had a feud with Chris Jericho that was probably one of the best of both mens careers, feuded with both Triple H and The Rock, had two title wins overturned by Mick Foley, won the tag titles with Jericho by beating Triple H and Austin. He was a big part of Smackdown after the Brand split and had a classic match with Kurt Angle at the Royal Rumble 2003. To say that the only notable thing in his career was the ending of 'mania 20 is just asinine.
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Post by repomark on Mar 10, 2024 7:51:29 GMT -5
Brock had a huge impact on wwe (both positive and negative) and the history of wwe looks very different without him. Deleting/removing him now doesn’t feel as consequential because moving forward he had very little left to do. He was winding down anyway.
The next big thing era had him cleanly beat Hogan, the Rock and have a host of classics with Kurt Angle. He put over Eddie Guerrero at no way out in an all time great moment. His departure from wwe to go to the NFL was huge at that time, one that many speculated would mean he was not going to ever return to WWE.
For that reason, his comeback in 2012 was huge. The initial match with Cena was excellent (though I still can’t work out why he lost) and then after the annoying (but high profile) Triple H feud he had a classic with CM Punk before hitting the absolute apex of his career (and an all time moment in wwe history) ending the streak.
His battering of John Cena at SS14 cannot be understated as a significant moment either - given how invincible Cena had been up till then. This was the birth of end boss Brock, and perhaps the downturn in match quality (with some notable exceptions). The never ending Roman feud began during this time - including three mania main events. Whilst it stuttered and had some abysmal missteps, eventually it led to establishing Roman as the new end boss of WWE.
So whilst he deserved everything coming to him as the Vince scandal unfolds, I just don’t think we can in any way understate Brock’s historical significance to WWE in the past 20 years or so.
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Post by Renslayer on Mar 10, 2024 9:52:14 GMT -5
You can't tell the history of wwe and combat sports at large without brock
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