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King Koopa
He's just a Sexy Kurt
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Post by 67 more on Mar 31, 2024 2:56:18 GMT -5
The "indy-standoff" I think is the unofficial term for mine. You know the thing. It's always like you do an arm-drag, I do an arm-drag, you do a dropkick, I do a dropkick, we both maybe try some flippy thing, land on our feet at the same time then we look at each other and wait for the crowd to applaud. There's not even really a pretence of it being a fight. It's one of the most obvious "I'm watching a choreographed routine and not a simulated battle" spots there is outside of like when people stand around awkwardly obviously waiting for someone to hit a dive on them. I remember actually loving it the first time I saw it I think during an RVD/Jerry Lynn ECW match but over the years it's just become like the equivalent of an old bit in comedy that used to be novel but becomes hacky. I don't mind it too much in face versus face matches, but it's weird when it's supposed to be guys with actual heat between them. For me, if you're going to do that, you need to be really good to make it not a bit lame, sort of like the Benoit vs Malenko-style pinning combinations and reversals that a lot of people try to do, but more than half of them, it goes sloooooooooooow and plodding and looks like absolute shit. For an unrelated one, I've always hated "two women fight on the mat, then roll over the referee and somehow only notice after he gets up and acts like he's fighting a boner". It's just such a waste of everyone's time as a spot. Jack Doan signing up for that one every match, the perv.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 31, 2024 3:32:16 GMT -5
German suplexes. How many guys had ther careers shortened and now live in constant pain because of a move that dropped them on the back of their necks and head which was spammed as a 'Look ma, workrate!' move for a decade. If it was a big match finisher or the very top workers, it'd be something but no, over you go, enjoy the wear and tear on body parts that will never fully heal.
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King Koopa
He's just a Sexy Kurt
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Post by 67 more on Mar 31, 2024 3:49:24 GMT -5
German suplexes. How many guys had ther careers shortened and now live in constant pain because of a move that dropped them on the back of their necks and head which was spammed as a 'Look ma, workrate!' move for a decade. If it was a big match finisher or the very top workers, it'd be something but no, over you go, enjoy the wear and tear on body parts that will never fully heal. Especially since the German can be pretty safe. Take it across the upper back you're fine, you don't have to be folded up like an accordion
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 31, 2024 9:52:45 GMT -5
Swerves top rope stomp where his opponent just sits on their ass staring at him I can buy that based upon the opponent being knocked senseless before Swerve goes for it. For me the more difficult part to believe is someone surviving a 190lb guy bringing down both boots on their head from a great height.
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Post by MrElijah on Mar 31, 2024 10:27:49 GMT -5
The Hidden Blade. That's a move asking for trouble.
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Post by rainandlava on Mar 31, 2024 21:00:28 GMT -5
In the case of the Canadian Destroyer/Flip Piledriver, I just was mostly annoyed at how it became a kick-out at one move. It always looked like a One Hit-KO move to me or something.
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neilc
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Post by neilc on Apr 1, 2024 8:13:05 GMT -5
In the case of the Canadian Destroyer/Flip Piledriver, I just was mostly annoyed at how it became a kick-out at one move. It always looked like a One Hit-KO move to me or something. Yeah, like the DDT, it's more a transition move now unfortunately.
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Post by Cyno on Apr 1, 2024 8:37:13 GMT -5
The "indy-standoff" I think is the unofficial term for mine. You know the thing. It's always like you do an arm-drag, I do an arm-drag, you do a dropkick, I do a dropkick, we both maybe try some flippy thing, land on our feet at the same time then we look at each other and wait for the crowd to applaud. There's not even really a pretence of it being a fight. It's one of the most obvious "I'm watching a choreographed routine and not a simulated battle" spots there is outside of like when people stand around awkwardly obviously waiting for someone to hit a dive on them. I remember actually loving it the first time I saw it I think during an RVD/Jerry Lynn ECW match but over the years it's just become like the equivalent of an old bit in comedy that used to be novel but becomes hacky. I don't mind it too much in face versus face matches, but it's weird when it's supposed to be guys with actual heat between them. For me, if you're going to do that, you need to be really good to make it not a bit lame, sort of like the Benoit vs Malenko-style pinning combinations and reversals that a lot of people try to do, but more than half of them, it goes sloooooooooooow and plodding and looks like absolute shit. For an unrelated one, I've always hated "two women fight on the mat, then roll over the referee and somehow only notice after he gets up and acts like he's fighting a boner". It's just such a waste of everyone's time as a spot. Agreed. I don't mind the standoff if it's between two faces or friendly rivals if the story of the match is pure athletic contest. But it's really stupid in the context of a feud.
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Post by Marvelous1LUFC on Apr 1, 2024 9:10:00 GMT -5
Old School, and alicia fox's scissor kick
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