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Post by darthobiwan on Mar 31, 2024 14:13:13 GMT -5
By older I am meaning any pre-Covid/Wrestlemania 36 Wrestlemanias that may have been better overall if they were 2 Night events. The main benefits would be they could give more time to some matches, some matches could get added, and could help with the flow of the show and not have things be rushed.
Here are a few Wrestlemanias I feel would have benefitted greatly from it being 2 nights.
2: the locations deal may have worked better having 1ocation for 1 night and 2 other locations have split the second.
4: They still have the tournament, but with Night 1 being for first and second round matches, then second night with Final 4, finals, AND other non-tournament matches.
12: Undertaker vs Diesel Main events night 1 with most of the matches that weekend. Ironman main events night 2 with maybe 1 or 2 other matches.
18: Rock vs Hogan Main events night 1, or crowd is recovered by next night.
25: Undertaker vs Michaels Main events Night 1, then MAYBE HHH vs Orton has more excitement for it.
28: Instead of most matches being less then 10 minutes they can extend some of them (MaYBE Sheamus vs Bryan gets more than 18 seconds). Hell In Cell mains Night 1 and Rock vs Cena night 2.
30: Even if Streak ends (yuck)... if it main events Night 1, MAYBE helps increase Daniel Bryan's moment on Night 2 (but also run the risk of people not invested in Night 2).
34: Undertaker vs Cena goes longer than 3 minutes (does not have to main event though).
35: Women still main Night 2, with Kofimania finishing out Night 1.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Mar 31, 2024 14:32:16 GMT -5
Definitely 35. Becky and Kofi's wins both deserved to close a show. And that show running so long was probably one of the things that made them start considering a 2 night event even if Covid was the thing that finally pushed it through.
28 also. Taker/HHH in hell in a cell with the streak on the line and HBK as ref is big enough to main event 99% of shows but it happened on the same night as the biggest match of the decade in Rock/Cena. They could've easily headlined a night each. Punk/Jericho would also likely have been better not being on the same night as both of those. The crowd was kind of lukewarm for it coming after the emotional highs of the cell match and before the main event. The likes of Miz/Ziggler/Henry who were big parts of TV in 11-12 would also have been able to get more featured matches on a 2 night show rather than all being shoved into a Raw v Smackdown tag match. And Bryan/Sheamus likely have a proper match if it's the only world title match of whatever night its on and doesn't have 3 bigger matches to compete with.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 31, 2024 14:46:21 GMT -5
Mania 21 would have been cool with Cena winning the wwe title on Night 1 and Batista winning on Night 2
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Mar 31, 2024 15:01:40 GMT -5
IV seems to be the easy answer here, Hogan/Andre main event night one, the matches themselves can go longer.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Mar 31, 2024 15:19:48 GMT -5
Mania 21 would have been cool with Cena winning the wwe title on Night 1 and Batista winning on Night 2 That would’ve resulted in Christy Hemme/Trish Stratus and Akebono/Big Show getting even more time. Trish was good but not that good. and the less said about the sumo match the better. Hard pass. |
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Post by Renslayer on Mar 31, 2024 15:39:22 GMT -5
By older I am meaning any pre-Covid/Wrestlemania 36 Wrestlemanias that may have been better overall if they were 2 Night events. The main benefits would be they could give more time to some matches, some matches could get added, and could help with the flow of the show and not have things be rushed. Here are a few Wrestlemanias I feel would have benefitted greatly from it being 2 nights. 2: the locations deal may have worked better having 1ocation for 1 night and 2 other locations have split the second. 4: They still have the tournament, but with Night 1 being for first and second round matches, then second night with Final 4, finals, AND other non-tournament matches. 12: Undertaker vs Diesel Main events night 1 with most of the matches that weekend. Ironman main events night 2 with maybe 1 or 2 other matches. 18: Rock vs Hogan Main events night 1, or crowd is recovered by next night. 25: Undertaker vs Michaels Main events Night 1, then MAYBE HHH vs Orton has more excitement for it. 28: Instead of most matches being less then 10 minutes they can extend some of them (MaYBE Sheamus vs Bryan gets more than 18 seconds). Hell In Cell mains Night 1 and Rock vs Cena night 2. 30: Even if Streak ends (yuck)... if it main events Night 1, MAYBE helps increase Daniel Bryan's moment on Night 2 (but also run the risk of people not invested in Night 2). 34: Undertaker vs Cena goes longer than 3 minutes (does not have to main event though). 35: Women still main Night 2, with Kofimania finishing out Night 1. idk if i'd put mania 30 here. daniel bryan beating all of evolution in one night added to his legend imo |
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Post by darthobiwan on Mar 31, 2024 15:56:01 GMT -5
By older I am meaning any pre-Covid/Wrestlemania 36 Wrestlemanias that may have been better overall if they were 2 Night events. The main benefits would be they could give more time to some matches, some matches could get added, and could help with the flow of the show and not have things be rushed. Here are a few Wrestlemanias I feel would have benefitted greatly from it being 2 nights. 2: the locations deal may have worked better having 1ocation for 1 night and 2 other locations have split the second. 4: They still have the tournament, but with Night 1 being for first and second round matches, then second night with Final 4, finals, AND other non-tournament matches. 12: Undertaker vs Diesel Main events night 1 with most of the matches that weekend. Ironman main events night 2 with maybe 1 or 2 other matches. 18: Rock vs Hogan Main events night 1, or crowd is recovered by next night. 25: Undertaker vs Michaels Main events Night 1, then MAYBE HHH vs Orton has more excitement for it. 28: Instead of most matches being less then 10 minutes they can extend some of them (MaYBE Sheamus vs Bryan gets more than 18 seconds). Hell In Cell mains Night 1 and Rock vs Cena night 2. 30: Even if Streak ends (yuck)... if it main events Night 1, MAYBE helps increase Daniel Bryan's moment on Night 2 (but also run the risk of people not invested in Night 2). 34: Undertaker vs Cena goes longer than 3 minutes (does not have to main event though). 35: Women still main Night 2, with Kofimania finishing out Night 1. idk if i'd put mania 30 here. daniel bryan beating all of evolution in one night added to his legend imo Maybe he still beats them all on Night 2  |
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Post by clc on Mar 31, 2024 16:03:12 GMT -5
4, 30, and 35 for the reasons already mentioned.
34. You let Asuka vs Charlotte main event night 1. The momentum is already there with the first ever Women's Royal Rumble having just happened. This would in hindsight fix WM 35 becasue there would be no need to shoehorn Charlotte in there since she would already have the 1st ever woman to main event feat.
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Mar 31, 2024 16:18:52 GMT -5
I think if WM4 is two nights, then all WM after would have to become two nights right?
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Mar 31, 2024 16:29:32 GMT -5
Was going to say 32, but the length was one of the many, many issues on that card that I don't even think splitting it across 2 would save it. You'd a dud main-event, Shane vs Undertaker was presented way too competitive for what it was, the admittedly fantastic WWE Women's Championship match had a downer ender and Jericho/AJ was in itself a bummer. At least with a 7 hour show, you'd got it out of the way at once.
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on Mar 31, 2024 18:03:37 GMT -5
Would've had to make some changes with Takeover: New York, but WM 35 would've been a damn near perfect Mania had it been 2 nights IMO.
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Post by fw91 on Mar 31, 2024 18:14:07 GMT -5
20. A long night of filler
Night 1
1) Crusierweight Open
2) Raw tag fatal four way
3) Molly Holly vs Victoria
4) Christian vs Chris Jericho
5) Rock and Sock vs Evolution
6) Eddie Guerrero vs Kurt Angle
Night 2
1) John Cena vs Big Show
2) Playboy Pillow fight
3) Smackdown Tag
4) Goldberg vs Brock Lesnar
5) Undertaker vs Kane
6) Shawn Michaels vs HHH vs Chris Benoit
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Post by froggyfrog on Mar 31, 2024 18:14:40 GMT -5
Basically every show from 32-35. So many talented guys got pushed to kickoff show which doesn’t count imo
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 31, 2024 20:03:27 GMT -5
Mania 21 would have been cool with Cena winning the wwe title on Night 1 and Batista winning on Night 2 That would’ve resulted in Christy Hemme/Trish Stratus and Akebono/Big Show getting even more time. Trish was good but not that good. and the less said about the sumo match the better. Hard pass. Maybe they could have added a couple more matches in there. Like Paul London vs Chavo for the Cruiserweight title and a match for the World tag titles |
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Post by BRV on Mar 31, 2024 20:28:56 GMT -5
Definitely 35. Becky and Kofi's wins both deserved to close a show. And that show running so long was probably one of the things that made them start considering a 2 night event even if Covid was the thing that finally pushed it through. 28 also. Taker/HHH in hell in a cell with the streak on the line and HBK as ref is big enough to main event 99% of shows but it happened on the same night as the biggest match of the decade in Rock/Cena. They could've easily headlined a night each. Punk/Jericho would also likely have been better not being on the same night as both of those. The crowd was kind of lukewarm for it coming after the emotional highs of the cell match and before the main event. The likes of Miz/Ziggler/Henry who were big parts of TV in 11-12 would also have been able to get more featured matches on a 2 night show rather than all being shoved into a Raw v Smackdown tag match. And Bryan/Sheamus likely have a proper match if it's the only world title match of whatever night its on and doesn't have 3 bigger matches to compete with. The moment the referee's hand hits the mat for the three-count and Kofi Kingston wins the WWE Championship was at 9:41 p.m. Eastern. WrestleMania 35 didn't end until 12:20 a.m. There was still 2 hours and 39 minutes left in WrestleMania 35 after that match. That's a whole other show! And you could tell because the crowd was completely out of gas for Roman vs. Drew, Corbin vs. Angle, Balor vs. Lashley, and most of the main event. If you factor in the pre-show, the fans had been in their seats for roughly four and a half hours by the conclusion of the Kofi-Daniel Bryan match. |
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Post by LiamMcDuggle on Mar 31, 2024 21:19:01 GMT -5
12: Undertaker vs Diesel Main events night 1 with most of the matches that weekend. Ironman main events night 2 with maybe 1 or 2 other matches.
In 2024 terms, this match could easily be a night 1 Main Event, I think the bigger issue is how thin the roster was at this time. From first bell, to last bell, WM 12's run time was 2:30 min. If you include the promo vids and HBK celebrating, the main event was 1:20 min long. Over half the entire show was dedicated to that one match |
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Post by darthobiwan on Mar 31, 2024 21:20:53 GMT -5
12: Undertaker vs Diesel Main events night 1 with most of the matches that weekend. Ironman main events night 2 with maybe 1 or 2 other matches.
In 2024 terms, this match could easily be a night 1 Main Event, I think the bigger issue is how thin the roster was at this time. From first bell, to last bell, WM 12's run time was 2:30 min. If you include the promo vids and HBK celebrating, the main event was 1:20 min long. Over half the entire show was dedicated to that one match Which would not be an issue if they had 1 Night mainly focused on ironman match, then the other night for rest of card lol |
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 1, 2024 4:06:33 GMT -5
4, 30, and 35 for the reasons already mentioned. 34. You let Asuka vs Charlotte main event night 1. The momentum is already there with the first ever Women's Royal Rumble having just happened. This would in hindsight fix WM 35 becasue there would be no need to shoehorn Charlotte in there since she would already have the 1st ever woman to main event feat. The original speculation, almost as soon as WM 34 ended and the two had been in stand-out matches (the mixed tag would have been a much more satisfying main event than Roman/Brock) was that Charlotte/Ronda was going to be the WM 35 main event. Things of course took a different path, Charlotte/Ronda happened at Survivor Series due to the Nia punch, and they ran with the meta 'we need Charlotte Flair' story to explain the triple-threat, but in reality Becky was the one who was added to the match.
Speaking of, WM 35 seems an obvious example here. Perhaps if they had HHH/Batista on Night 1 they might have had some actual weapons spots in the triple threat rather than just 'Charlotte gets double hiptossed kind of through a table'.
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