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Post by The Ichi on Apr 5, 2024 20:14:16 GMT -5
You'd think HHH would have learned from the simple truth that one of his biggest rivals became a Hollywood star and gets paid more to shoot a few movie scenes than any Wrestler will for a year.
Or maybe that's what eats at him.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 5, 2024 20:26:37 GMT -5
You'd think HHH would have learned from the simple truth that one of his biggest rivals became a Hollywood star and gets paid more to shoot a few movie scenes than any Wrestler will for a year. Or maybe that's what eats at him. I always felt like triple h cares more about the position of power than money. And the rock is his boss at same time
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Post by Dave the Dave on Apr 5, 2024 21:42:59 GMT -5
I still would like to know if Stu Grayson actually did anything. All I’m seeing are tweets from a dude with 200 Twitter followers posted as if it’s a real source.
The Boys though… the day of the flight if they hadn’t heard anything, should have taken the 3 hour drive and complained to management at the event. They made a dumb decision. After the Big Swole thing though, I’m admittedly quick to jump on seemingly insensitive Tony Khan comments. I don’t need a billionaire son of a billionaire shitting on people as he fires them. Unless they’re Jimmy Havoc or someone super horrible.
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Post by r. on Apr 5, 2024 21:54:43 GMT -5
Glaring personality flaw in HHH seems to be that he doesn’t respect his competition. I feel like WWE is quite literally too big to fail right now, but the sheer fact that AEW exists means theirs is a real world chance that they could beat WWE by some metric. I understand how ridiculous that sounds but in any competition/conflict anything can happen. I respectfully disagree. In fact, I think the opposite in which the gap will only widen.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 5, 2024 22:09:09 GMT -5
Glaring personality flaw in HHH seems to be that he doesn’t respect his competition. I feel like WWE is quite literally too big to fail right now, but the sheer fact that AEW exists means theirs is a real world chance that they could beat WWE by some metric. I understand how ridiculous that sounds but in any competition/conflict anything can happen. I respectfully disagree. In fact, I think the opposite in which the gap will only widen. Given you've been championing that for what feels like the past year that AEW is doomed and WWE is forever, I don't think that's a shocker.
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Post by KingPooper on Apr 5, 2024 22:37:20 GMT -5
The travel thing with The Boys looks like a mess and I can see where they are coming from, but they keep on sharing posts where people saying Dalton will fail without them. Get over yourselfs, Dalton was the only reason people cared about them in the first place, he’s had great solo runs before, and he will once again. I’m legit going to believe the Johnny TV story that they were eaten by bears.
The baby chicks were better anyways.
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Post by r. on Apr 5, 2024 22:52:10 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. In fact, I think the opposite in which the gap will only widen. Given you've been championing that for what feels like the past year that AEW is doomed and WWE is forever, I don't think that's a shocker. Given How I would normally approach the response, I felt I did it in a respectful calm way.
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Post by Mecca on Apr 5, 2024 22:56:17 GMT -5
Let's get real here, H probably does buy into alot of what he said, WWE has always seen guys as not mattering unless they made it in WWE. The fact that they pitch working WrestleMania in negotiations is all you need to know there..
This is also butthurt that some wrestlers don't view working for WWE as the pinnacle so they can't get away with lowballing people.
Also it's TKO, if you look at how they run UFC no one other than the tippy top proven draws get paid, anyone else asks for one and they're gone. They want wrestlers who are willing to work harder for less.
At the end of the day as Hs good friend said the only things that are real about wrestling are the money and the miles. So for him to crap on guys for getting paid makes him a piece of shit.
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Post by The anti-ratings Luddite on Apr 5, 2024 22:59:05 GMT -5
There is more to life than work and money.
If Tony Khan is still gonna pay me "I can retire at 45 and be ultra comfortable for the rest of my days" money, let me work 1-2 days a week but with the caveat of it being 80% of what WWE's offering? I'm taking it and giving Paul Levesque the finger.
"Dis Bizness" self-seriousness, grind culture, and expecting your employees to build their lives around their job is toxic as f*** and Hunter just sounds like he's got a case of raw-ass over losing out on Okada and Mone especially.
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Post by Mecca on Apr 5, 2024 23:02:08 GMT -5
There is more to life than work and money. If Tony Khan is still gonna pay me "I can retire at 45 and be ultra comfortable for the rest of my days" money, let me work 1-2 days a week but with the caveat of it being 80% of what WWE's offering? I'm taking it and giving Paul Levesque the finger. "Dis Bizness" self-seriousness, grind culture, and expecting your employees to build their lives around their job is toxic as f*** and Hunter just sounds like he's got a case of raw-ass over losing out on Okada and Mone especially. Ospreay went on talk is Jericho and said WWEs offer wasn't close to AEWs, he followed by saying he respected everyone there but the offers weren't even close..I'm sure that's part of it.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Apr 5, 2024 23:06:41 GMT -5
You'd think HHH would have learned from the simple truth that one of his biggest rivals became a Hollywood star and gets paid more to shoot a few movie scenes than any Wrestler will for a year. Or maybe that's what eats at him. When Triple H's movie career peaked.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Apr 5, 2024 23:17:34 GMT -5
We seem to be talking about AEW targeting WWE talent, so this belongs here. Hunter doesn't seem to be happy that they can't just easily sign whoever they want like they could in the past
"You wanna go to movies with me?" "Sorry, I have plans." "YEAH? WELL YOU'RE UGLY!!! I DIDN'T WANT TO GO OUT WITH YOU ANYWAY!!" That's you, Triple H.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Apr 5, 2024 23:17:51 GMT -5
Not with AEW but before when NJPW and ROH was hitting their huge wave of popularity you were starting to see a shift where fans and wrestlers were not seeing WWE as the end all of wrestling.
I think for some people, including HHH, they literally can not grasp how someone might not have WWE as their end goal.
There has been a definite shift in a lot of people perception of pro wrestling. Lots of people hate change and I think the backlash towards AEW and people who choose to sign with AEW is a by-product of that.
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Post by Mecca on Apr 5, 2024 23:21:23 GMT -5
Not with AEW but before when NJPW and ROH was hitting their huge wave of popularity you were starting to see a shift where fans and wrestlers were not seeing WWE as the end all of wrestling. I think for some people, including HHH, they literally can not grasp how someone might not have WWE as their end goal. There has been a definite shift in a lot of people perception of pro wrestling. Lots of people hate change and I think the backlash towards AEW and people who choose to sign with AEW is a by-product of that. 100% truth, a ton of fans didn't want an alternative they wanted a WWE that's 2% better without Vince. Also 20 years unopposed has done crazy shit to peoples minds.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Apr 5, 2024 23:23:08 GMT -5
Not with AEW but before when NJPW and ROH was hitting their huge wave of popularity you were starting to see a shift where fans and wrestlers were not seeing WWE as the end all of wrestling. I think for some people, including HHH, they literally can not grasp how someone might not have WWE as their end goal. There has been a definite shift in a lot of people perception of pro wrestling. Lots of people hate change and I think the backlash towards AEW and people who choose to sign with AEW is a by-product of that. 100% truth, a ton of fans didn't want an alternative they wanted a WWE that's 2% better without Vince. Also 20 years unopposed has done crazy shit to peoples minds. Not to mention the propaganda WWE had put out since then and continues to put out. They’ve ingrained in people’s minds that anything not WWE is minor league.
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Post by ayumidah on Apr 6, 2024 1:02:34 GMT -5
The travel thing with The Boys looks like a mess and I can see where they are coming from, but they keep on sharing posts where people saying Dalton will fail without them. Get over yourselfs, Dalton was the only reason people cared about them in the first place, he’s had great solo runs before, and he will once again. I’m legit going to believe the Johnny TV story that they were eaten by bears. The baby chicks were better anyways. That is disappointing, especially since Dalton's only ever had nice things to say about them as far as I've seen.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Apr 6, 2024 1:33:53 GMT -5
Either way, there's certainly enough doubt there that it was pretty unnecessary for a billionaires son to fire these guys and then trash their reputation on the way out. HHH is (rightfully) getting shit for being grindset grandpa here, but isn't that exactly what this situation is? A company throwing millions and millions at big name talent while expecting lower card guys to drive long distances at short notice with improper communication. But the side of the boys ain't great either,instead of following up there is a big time gap where they don't take it to anyone else after not receiving answer and just not appearing instead of saying they ar enot going I think that's a fair interpretation. My point would be that it's enough of a grey area to where surely firing these guys is punishment enough? Tony didn't then need to shit on their reputation and impact their future earning potential.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 6, 2024 1:52:50 GMT -5
Given you've been championing that for what feels like the past year that AEW is doomed and WWE is forever, I don't think that's a shocker. Given How I would normally approach the response, I felt I did it in a respectful calm way. Oh no disrespect or anything, I just am not surprised you think that way, I'm more sorry that you do, we should be hoping for the future of wrestling in ways that don't make it feel like everything is hopeless or going to go wrong, just my thoughts on it.
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Post by Bo Rida on Apr 6, 2024 2:58:26 GMT -5
Let's get real here, H probably does buy into alot of what he said, WWE has always seen guys as not mattering unless they made it in WWE. The fact that they pitch working WrestleMania in negotiations is all you need to know there.. This is also butthurt that some wrestlers don't view working for WWE as the pinnacle so they can't get away with lowballing people. It's interesting because wm is the pinnacle of wrestling and probably always will be. That's why so many promotions piggyback off it. If TKO slowly change everything else about wwe, including the company name, or even shutting it down, the one thing that would remain is wrestlemania. Yet Wrestlekingdom and all-in are basically at the same scale, even if the later has to downsize slightly over time. If you've worked them then wm is more for the history books than the experience. The other thing is wwe could underpay by expoiting the childhood dreams of their Wrestlers. Yet there's now increasing number of Wrestlers that grew up watching TNA (eg Ospreay), njpw or other companies. There's also those like Chris Brookes that realise the company they'd be joining is very different to the one they watched growing up. The exception is the younger women because they did get inspired by the horsewomen as kids (which as an old guy is depressing).
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Post by THE FVNKER on Apr 6, 2024 4:03:14 GMT -5
Glaring personality flaw in HHH seems to be that he doesn’t respect his competition. I feel like WWE is quite literally too big to fail right now, but the sheer fact that AEW exists means theirs is a real world chance that they could beat WWE by some metric. I understand how ridiculous that sounds but in any competition/conflict anything can happen. I respectfully disagree. In fact, I think the opposite in which the gap will only widen. You’re obviously entitled to that opinion, but we aren’t arguing the same thing. My point isn’t about the likelihood of AEW surpassing WWE, but the fact that they exist means that if you rolled the dice however many times, there’s a possibility that one of those rolls lands on AEW beating them in some manner. It is unlikely, but it is entirely possible.
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