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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 3, 2024 23:04:18 GMT -5
I know we're putting the blame on Gunn and rightly so, but honestly White just doesn't do it for me as a singles guy. Just one of the those guys I don't *get*. Imo he's really good at what he does, he proved he can go in the C2, the Darby match was good Just only so much you're gonna get out of Billy Gunn in 2024... keep in mind he wants his last match to be against Ospreay...
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Apr 3, 2024 23:05:39 GMT -5
…..I sort of enjoyed that match. *dodges tomatoes* no tomatoes thrown here, those are saved for action andretti
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 3, 2024 23:06:08 GMT -5
Billy Gunn was bad but WTF was with Jay there? He seemed really off tonight and it wasn't just because Billy Gunn probably shouldn't be doing singles matches in 2024. I wonder who laid out the match. Jay's used to a more methodical or frenetic style of wrestling, he could do either or and has proven he could I don't think he was ever gonna be able to work his style against Billy Gunn, even though Billy struggling to keep up with Jay would have likely been a better match after the initial brawl, it just never clicked out of that gear, it felt like they kind of lost their flow after the outside brawling.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Apr 3, 2024 23:12:00 GMT -5
I know we're putting the blame on Gunn and rightly so, but honestly White just doesn't do it for me as a singles guy. Just one of the those guys I don't *get*. Imo he's really good at what he does, he proved he can go in the C2, the Darby match was good Just only so much you're gonna get out of Billy Gunn in 2024... keep in mind he wants his last match to be against Ospreay... bruv vs butt is going to be car crash appointment viewing if it actually goes down
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Apr 3, 2024 23:37:02 GMT -5
I know we're putting the blame on Gunn and rightly so, but honestly White just doesn't do it for me as a singles guy. Just one of the those guys I don't *get*. I didn't know much about him at all prior to his AEW run and people have been telling me to wait on him. I've been holding off.
But it's about to be a year since he's officially been part of the roster and yeahhhhhh...his first year's been underwhelming to me.
Unabashed Jay mark. It’s been lukewarm - at best. I want to say its placement. Tk really not prioritizing him, and hey no judgment, but if I was running the company Jay would be one of my biggest heels traveling between the upper mid card and main event. That MJF thing was one thing. This didn’t help matters lol Juice missing hurts too. He’s been an awesome counteract to Jay. I’d be lying if I said he doesn’t seem one foot in and one foot out as far as his character in AEW’s been handled.
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Post by HIM on Apr 4, 2024 2:20:09 GMT -5
I didn't know much about him at all prior to his AEW run and people have been telling me to wait on him. I've been holding off.
But it's about to be a year since he's officially been part of the roster and yeahhhhhh...his first year's been underwhelming to me.
Unabashed Jay mark. It’s been lukewarm - at best. I want to say its placement. Tk really not prioritizing him, and hey no judgment, but if I was running the company Jay would be one of my biggest heels traveling between the upper mid card and main event. That MJF thing was one thing. This didn’t help matters lol Juice missing hurts too. He’s been an awesome counteract to Jay. I’d be lying if I said he doesn’t seem one foot in and one foot out as far as his character in AEW’s been handled. I'm glad you said that because for a while I wondered if it was just me who was missing something special about him. I'm just not getting it so to hear it's his booking makes sense.
TK's just gotta do better for him. I don't know who he's gotta feud with, I don't know what title scene he needs to be in but it'll be better than what he's currently doing. Still even if he gets in a title scene it feels like they'll tease him being champion and do nothing with it.
I just don't get it.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Apr 4, 2024 2:27:15 GMT -5
Unabashed Jay mark. It’s been lukewarm - at best. I want to say its placement. Tk really not prioritizing him, and hey no judgment, but if I was running the company Jay would be one of my biggest heels traveling between the upper mid card and main event. That MJF thing was one thing. This didn’t help matters lol Juice missing hurts too. He’s been an awesome counteract to Jay. I’d be lying if I said he doesn’t seem one foot in and one foot out as far as his character in AEW’s been handled. I'm glad you said that because for a while I wondered if it was just me who was missing something special about him. I'm just not getting it so to hear it's his booking makes sense.
TK's just gotta better for him. I don't know who he's gotta feud with, I don't know what title scene he needs to be in but it'll be better than what he's currently doing. Still even if he gets in a title scene it feels like they'll tease him being champion and do nothing with it.
I just don't get it.
he's gonna have a bit of an uphill battle because at least for me, part of what made jay white so great outside of AEW is stuff that probably couldn't be done on cable, like all of the bad trash talk. he hasn't really had a good rival. he got something cooking with MJF but I never really felt like he was a good contrast to jay white. if you can find someone who matches up well with him and let him be way more of a brutal absolute dickhead weirdo, the potential for him to still be the most popular person in AEW is there. who that rival is and what they can let jay white get away with is the real question. him facing off against billy gunn isn't it but almost anyone against billy gunn now isn't it. there's really no get rich quick answers with him right now unless you want to hit the men in black reset device on everything and try him as an antihero, he'd make a great one with the bat and music. it screams western sheriff justice shithead and could be really cool but it still wouldn't be prime jay white...
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Post by HIM on Apr 4, 2024 2:30:34 GMT -5
I'm glad you said that because for a while I wondered if it was just me who was missing something special about him. I'm just not getting it so to hear it's his booking makes sense.
TK's just gotta better for him. I don't know who he's gotta feud with, I don't know what title scene he needs to be in but it'll be better than what he's currently doing. Still even if he gets in a title scene it feels like they'll tease him being champion and do nothing with it.
I just don't get it.
he's gonna have a bit of an uphill battle because at least for me, part of what made jay white so great outside of AEW is stuff that probably couldn't be done on cable, like all of the bad trash talk. he hasn't really had a good rival. he got something cooking with MJF but I never really felt like he was a good contrast to jay white. if you can find someone who matches up well with him and let him be way more of a brutal absolute dickhead weirdo, the potential for him to still be the most popular person in AEW is there. who that rival is and what they can let jay white get away with is the real question. him facing off against billy gunn isn't it but almost anyone against billy gunn now isn't it. there's really no get rich quick answers with him right now unless you want to hit the men in black reset device on everything and try him as an antihero, he'd make a great one with the bat and music. it screams western sheriff justice shithead and could be really cool but it still wouldn't be prime jay white... AEW also has such a wild roster that he's battling titans on his level if not above him. I mean they've got Okada, Swerve, the Young Bucks, MJF when he returns, BCC, Samoa Joe, I mean that's a small fraction of the roster. Great luck to him. It won't be easy.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Apr 4, 2024 2:34:31 GMT -5
he's gonna have a bit of an uphill battle because at least for me, part of what made jay white so great outside of AEW is stuff that probably couldn't be done on cable, like all of the bad trash talk. he hasn't really had a good rival. he got something cooking with MJF but I never really felt like he was a good contrast to jay white. if you can find someone who matches up well with him and let him be way more of a brutal absolute dickhead weirdo, the potential for him to still be the most popular person in AEW is there. who that rival is and what they can let jay white get away with is the real question. him facing off against billy gunn isn't it but almost anyone against billy gunn now isn't it. there's really no get rich quick answers with him right now unless you want to hit the men in black reset device on everything and try him as an antihero, he'd make a great one with the bat and music. it screams western sheriff justice shithead and could be really cool but it still wouldn't be prime jay white... AEW also has such a wild roster that he's battling titans on his level if not above him. I mean they've got Okada, Swerve, the Young Bucks, MJF when he returns, BCC, Samoa Joe, I mean that's a small fraction of the roster. Great luck to him. It won't be easy. he is unique enough of a talent at his very best that somehow, he really could shine more than all of them. anyone just watching him in AEW and not before might not really know that though because as entertained as I have been with him most of the time in AEW, it is far from what he could be. once you find his guy to go against, swerve's hangman, hangman's swerve, bret's austin, that is when i think he'll take off. it might just be a long ass time until that happens or he's allowed to find out who that is lmao
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 4, 2024 3:00:12 GMT -5
Jay getting his ass kicked for 98% of the match by a 60 year old man. And then it ends on a DQ.
Yeah this was a complete misfire imo.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 4, 2024 3:18:07 GMT -5
I respect that Billy's been wrestling for a dog's age, and he's obviously in great shape, but just... this match did nothing for anyone. Like, AEW so rarely does DQ finishes, and they have to bust one out for Billy Gunn in 2024. God forbid the guy who has been wrestling since the vast majority of the roster was even born lose clean, or even not clean, just... get pinned.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 4, 2024 3:21:59 GMT -5
Not seen the match but Jay White vs. Billy Gunn is enough of a shitpost on paper that you absolutely should book it like one.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Apr 4, 2024 3:25:02 GMT -5
Not seen the match but Jay White vs. Billy Gunn is enough of a shitpost on paper that you absolutely should book it like one. honestly, you really should watch it. I think you’d be in awe, it’s one of the strangest tv matches I’ve seen in a long time and I still can’t believe it was AEW who did it. everything about it feels so anti AEW it’s so weird
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Post by Kalmia on Apr 4, 2024 4:21:58 GMT -5
Billy Gunn wasn't a great singles wrestler when he was in his 20s/30s and he certainly isn't one now. Doing this match at all was a weird choice, let alone booking it the way it was. He's not Sting.
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Post by daaave on Apr 4, 2024 5:11:03 GMT -5
Not seen the match but Jay White vs. Billy Gunn is enough of a shitpost on paper that you absolutely should book it like one. honestly, you really should watch it. I think you’d be in awe, it’s one of the strangest tv matches I’ve seen in a long time and I still can’t believe it was AEW who did it. everything about it feels so anti AEW it’s so weird "Punk says all we are interested in is 5 star matches. Now check this out" I might be in minority but I've quite enjoyed this Acclaimed/BCG feud. Promos been good, felt like there is some heat there. But last night was a mess. I just kept thinking, 'they are giving Billy a lot here, he must be losing'. Then when they had dq I thought 'well, Billy's getting beat down bad here' and no. Really weird.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Apr 4, 2024 6:52:34 GMT -5
I just don't get my 60 year old mid carder Billy Gunn just beat down Jay for the whole match and then hit him with his finisher twice and basically had the match won clean until interference. Like what the hell are we doing here?
Just awful stuff and makes me wonder does TK actually see much in Jay White.
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Post by chronocross on Apr 4, 2024 6:55:00 GMT -5
I'd be okay if I never saw that match again.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 4, 2024 7:39:25 GMT -5
I just don't get my 60 year old mid carder Billy Gunn just beat down Jay for the whole match and then hit him with his finisher twice and basically had the match won clean until interference. Like what the hell are we doing here? Just awful stuff and makes me wonder does TK actually see much in Jay White. That was brutal for White. Is it time to revisit that Jay White booking thread again? Really feels like AEW completely fumbled the ball with him.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 4, 2024 8:03:15 GMT -5
I need Jay away from all of this and just go on a killer heel solo run. If Swerve wins the world title he'd be a great first feud
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Post by bob on Apr 4, 2024 8:04:37 GMT -5
I was more surprised it went to a DQ, and I liked the match
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