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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Apr 6, 2024 14:44:32 GMT -5
Jade's promos in AEW were usually short and to the point where it didn't really expose her weakness at them. She also got a catchphrase over, but she can't use "cut the shit" in WWE obviously. "Cut the crud?"
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Post by Cyno on Apr 6, 2024 14:50:13 GMT -5
Man, jade will be fine. I swear, it's like the pessimism meter is at 50 here sometimes. She'll be fine as long as she isn't expected to have epic, long matches. There's a lot of ways to use smoke and mirrors to cover up her weaknesses. She's no Iyo or Becky, but she doesn't need to be. Having her first non-Rumble match being a trios match means Bianca and Naomi can do the lion's share of the work and she can be the hot tag who gets in her big spots.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 6, 2024 15:13:47 GMT -5
Saw this and my eyes rolled back Undertaker style. This lady needs years and years of acting classes before she even plays an extra in an X-Men movie. Jade is beautiful. She has superstar presence. I haven't seen her properly wrestle yet, so I'll take someone's word for it if they say she's good. But I've seen two promos now and they weren't just duds, they were bad. She needs a manager or to be a silent killer while she works on talking. They paired her with a manager on AEW. That's how bad she was on the mic there ( and keep in mind their standards for promos are much lower than WWE). She hasn't really improved now. And her wrestling is very, very, very subpar as well. I won't say its TERRIBLE, but its not good either. She's someone I feel like the hype is gonna die out on fairly quickly once she starts working singles matches that are longer than 10 minutes. I don't think this is true. They're just different kinds of promos. WWE has a very particular style that only some can pull off. You either sound great or like an alien.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 6, 2024 16:12:12 GMT -5
Man, jade will be fine. I swear, it's like the pessimism meter is at 50 here sometimes. Yeah she is a work in progress but she's got the hardest thing down, which is having fans care about her and react to her. So many other talents came into WWE with better ring and or mic skills but could not ever make the strong connection with the live crowd. Of course, she can flop and won't be the first person to do so, but I am not sure why there is so much negativity and almost certainty that the live fans will turn on her when she is in a match with headloks. Just odd.
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Post by chrom on Apr 6, 2024 16:15:59 GMT -5
Remember her catchphrase was "I am that Bitch"?
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Apr 6, 2024 16:29:51 GMT -5
I can see it. What do mean it's a live movie with acting and speaking? Still and/or mute movie would work just fine.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 6, 2024 17:00:56 GMT -5
Equating acting and promo abilities isn’t really an accurate gauge. Batista’s name doesn’t ever come up in the greatest promos of all time, he’s a wonderful character actor. Stone Cold is a dreadful actor. and while the Rock has tremendous screen presence, he’s not exactly a roided up Dustin Hoffman.
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Post by mistery on Apr 6, 2024 21:20:40 GMT -5
Yeah, uh...might want to revise the thread title.
Jade Cargill, Prescence 10,000, Mic Work 10, Ring Work 1
She took a whopping ONE very small bump tonight, and absolutely no spots she did flowed naturally. There are robots out there that act more organically than she did in the ring.
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Post by gl83 on Apr 6, 2024 21:42:39 GMT -5
Yeah, uh...might want to revise the thread title. Jade Cargill, Prescence 10,000, Mic Work 10, Ring Work 1 She took a whopping ONE very small bump tonight, and absolutely no spots she did flowed naturally. There are robots out there that act more organically than she did in the ring. Maybe they should just put her in the tag team scene to hide her flaws and just have her get hot tags and wreck shop. Probably with Bianca since they can then kill 2 birds by hiding her flaws as she develops, while eventually building to the eventual feud between the two of them.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 6, 2024 22:23:47 GMT -5
Yeah, uh...might want to revise the thread title. Jade Cargill, Prescence 10,000, Mic Work 10, Ring Work 1 She took a whopping ONE very small bump tonight, and absolutely no spots she did flowed naturally. There are robots out there that act more organically than she did in the ring. Not surprised it took what six months to debut her then another three for her to have an actual match where she barely did anything. HHH dogged AEW for her "ring work" in a scrum but maybe he should actually praise AEW for the ring work they were able to get out of her if they are THIS afraid of having her work... She's got the star look but you might just need to accept she's Chyna caliber in ring.
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 6, 2024 22:37:09 GMT -5
Tiffany already feels like a MUXH more complete talent. SHE’S who they should push on SD.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Apr 6, 2024 22:40:52 GMT -5
It's always interesting when a wrestlers has prescene, charisma, a good character etc but is terrible on the mic. Jeff Hardy, rvd, Sasha Banks etc. I'm gonna climb a LADDER
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 6, 2024 22:41:24 GMT -5
I mean, Bianca's right there. She's better in every single way.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 6, 2024 22:42:22 GMT -5
Tiffany already feels like a MUXH more complete talent. SHE’S who they should push on SD. And if they really did sign her, AEW must feel pretty confident in the likes of Kamille and Megan Bayne as Hoss Women.
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Post by gl83 on Apr 6, 2024 22:43:13 GMT -5
I mean, Bianca's right there. She's better in every single way. Not a big fan of Bianca's "Superman" booking, but Jade seems to be worse than her in every single imaginable way.
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Post by Renslayer on Apr 6, 2024 22:44:10 GMT -5
I love that she got her first big mania moment with naomi and bee
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Apr 6, 2024 22:44:16 GMT -5
Is "Jade's mic skills are bad" the new "Cody will be unpopular soon"?
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Apr 6, 2024 22:49:25 GMT -5
i don't really see what jade's stuff now has to do with AEW at all. she gets great crowd reactions, WWE already has like 10 other women who can pull off a 4/4.5 star match and she was absolute horseshit in AEW. she was still mega over even if a lot of us complained about her not dropping the TBS title. the wwe crowds aren't gonna be all "DAMN SHE SUCKS" if she can't do some 450 whosit woosit, she just has to lift someone and drop them.
a big part of professional wrestling is charisma and yeah, physical presence especially when you're in WWE. let her talk a bit when you need her to but there's nothing wrong with her right now.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 6, 2024 22:49:29 GMT -5
Folks it is possible to have two black powerhouse women on the roster be pushed
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Post by “Max Landis DickOnya” on Apr 6, 2024 22:53:25 GMT -5
Yeah this is going to be fun discourse.
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