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Post by Jindrak Mark on Apr 21, 2024 16:23:08 GMT -5
What are the best examples of this? Like Rock/Hogan on Raw in 2002. Technically their first interaction was a backstage segment at No Way Out the previous night but I think we can count it as the first time they ever shared a ring in front of fans.
Cena and Styles in 2016 was a good one. The face of WWE v the face of TNA and for a decade or so it was mentioned as a fantasy type match that most didn't expect to ever happen. Then it finally does and their first segment together was great. The fans were so hyped that neither of them could speak at first. They just stood there while there were duelling chants of let's go Cena/AJ Styles for like 5 minutes straight.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Apr 21, 2024 16:35:47 GMT -5
Hogan/Warrior at the 1990 Royal Rumble.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Apr 22, 2024 6:38:07 GMT -5
Obviously their eventual match was awful but Undertaker and Goldberg's staredown in the 2017 Royal Rumble was a cool moment.
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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 22, 2024 9:09:59 GMT -5
Hogan/Warrior at the 1990 Royal Rumble. Thread over! This was THE moment.
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Post by tafkaga on Apr 22, 2024 9:24:39 GMT -5
Hogan and Flair face to face on the Funeral Parlor was surreal. Odd that they chose the Funeral Parlor as the place for their first epic staredown.
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Post by chronocross on Apr 22, 2024 9:33:37 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar/Samoa Joe during their brief feud in 2017.
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Post by CeilingFan on Apr 22, 2024 10:29:33 GMT -5
Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe in 2006.
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Post by 4real on Apr 24, 2024 3:27:41 GMT -5
Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe in 2006. That segment alone might be the hottest TNA has ever been.
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Post by tirtefaa on Apr 24, 2024 7:56:38 GMT -5
Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe in 2006. That segment alone might be the hottest TNA has ever been. It was also the beginning of the end for me. I thought this felt rushed and the wrong guy won out the gate. Not exactly a Joe fan, but having a WWE guy break his streak made TNA look second rate, even if Joe would win the next bout.
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Post by chrom on Apr 24, 2024 9:41:32 GMT -5
Hogan and Flair face to face on the Funeral Parlor was surreal. Odd that they chose the Funeral Parlor as the place for their first epic staredown. Undertaker was starting to feud with Hogan so it'd make sense for Flair to be in cahoots with Bearer
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Post by 4real on Apr 24, 2024 10:22:05 GMT -5
That segment alone might be the hottest TNA has ever been. It was also the beginning of the end for me. I thought this felt rushed and the wrong guy won out the gate. Not exactly a Joe fan, but having a WWE guy break his streak made TNA look second rate, even if Joe would win the next bout. Agreed. Joe losing to Angle was the first time I lost faith in TNA and I didn’t watch that regularly afterwards until the Hogan era.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Apr 24, 2024 10:27:48 GMT -5
Hogan/Warrior at the 1990 Royal Rumble. It will be hard to ever beat this one. Both guys were megastar babyfaces and prior to that moment, I don't think they had ever even been on the screen at the same time. They existed in totally separate universes. Both are cleaning house in the Rumble and the reaction of the crowd when they see these two alone in the ring is this awesome "Oh shit!" realization. Jesse Ventura has a similar reaction. Bobby Heenan is frozen at ringside watching this moment even though all his men have been eliminated. It's incredible and I doubt it will ever be duplicated.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Apr 24, 2024 11:51:24 GMT -5
Hogan and Flair face to face on the Funeral Parlor was surreal. Odd that they chose the Funeral Parlor as the place for their first epic staredown. "I just burst that bubble you've been living in and I'm here on your door step with the REAL World's Championship belt." Flair's promo with that line and the visual of Undertaker and Flair standing over Hogan with Randy Savage and Roddy Piper is one that truly stood out. You had the 4 biggest stars of the 80s right there and the gatekeeper of the WWF for the next 30 years with them. In a perfect world, Flair and Hogan would have had a match at Wrestlemania VIII with a build up similar to Bret/Shawn. Just endless promos and vignettes of Hulk lifting weights, Flair on the treadmill. I would have approached it like a sports feud, focus on Hogan trying to get his cardio to keep up with Flair's and Flair lifting weights to match the strength of Hogan with both talking about the meaning of the match and why they have to win. I do think the steroids trial had more to do with it. Hulk gave a negative light to himself and Flair was the one staying. You couldn't just have Flair win and Hulk vanish with no guarantee of a rematch.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Apr 24, 2024 13:03:15 GMT -5
Hogan and Flair face to face on the Funeral Parlor was surreal. Odd that they chose the Funeral Parlor as the place for their first epic staredown. "I just burst that bubble you've been living in and I'm here on your door step with the REAL World's Championship belt." Flair's promo with that line and the visual of Undertaker and Flair standing over Hogan with Randy Savage and Roddy Piper is one that truly stood out. You had the 4 biggest stars of the 80s right there and the gatekeeper of the WWF for the next 30 years with them. In a perfect world, Flair and Hogan would have had a match at Wrestlemania VIII with a build up similar to Bret/Shawn. Just endless promos and vignettes of Hulk lifting weights, Flair on the treadmill. I would have approached it like a sports feud, focus on Hogan trying to get his cardio to keep up with Flair's and Flair lifting weights to match the strength of Hogan with both talking about the meaning of the match and why they have to win. I do think the steroids trial had more to do with it. Hulk gave a negative light to himself and Flair was the one staying. You couldn't just have Flair win and Hulk vanish with no guarantee of a rematch. I like that build idea. And had the steroid scandal not hit, it would've been a good way to explain why Hogan had shrunk so much since the previous summer. "Ever since I laid eyes on Weasel Heenan with that belt, man, I knew the Hulkster of the 90s had to be leaner and meaner than ever brother. Quicker than grease lightning. Be able to wrestle 2, 3, 4, 5 hours a night. Whatever it takes brother!"
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Post by J. Hova on Apr 29, 2024 16:08:01 GMT -5
Hogan would have just said that he lost weight from travelling back and forth between Japan, brother jack.
TNA booked themselves into a corner with Joe and Angle. You can't have the biggest signing you've ever made lose right out of the gate. You shouldn't have your ace lose to him either. You could have built it so long with Joe being his dominant ass kicker self, Kurt being the wrestling machine, and just keep building to it. Make the first match a double KO or whatever where neither can keep going or hell bring back a time limit and expire. Make the second match a double DQ or countout. Third is an ironman or last man standing, boom. Three money matches. Neither guy loses steam and you can move onto new matches from there.
Then again Vinny Ro couldn't book his way out of a wet paper bag, so....
To me the biggest one that hasn't been mentioned, Bischoff and VKM? I knew it was coming from the dirtsheets or here or something, but it was still absolutely surreal watching that live.
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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 30, 2024 8:12:39 GMT -5
Nothing came of it matchwise, on TV or PPV, but the Midnight Express and Tully/Arn. Two sets of Big Bads in Crockett/WCW, and they were about to collide! What's not to love?
(The fact that TB and AA decided to sign with the WWF before an actual program could begin, I suppose...)
We did get a MX vs. Horsemen match on TV technically with the Flair/Barry team, but at this point it felt like a great match just to have a great match. No feud was mentioned, and in fact the MX moved on to the Original MX/Paul E feud anyway.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Apr 30, 2024 17:51:38 GMT -5
Nothing came of it matchwise, on TV or PPV, but the Midnight Express and Tully/Arn. Two sets of Big Bads in Crockett/WCW, and they were about to collide! What's not to love? (The fact that TB and AA decided to sign with the WWF before an actual program could begin, I suppose...) We did get a MX vs. Horsemen match on TV technically with the Flair/Barry team, but at this point it felt like a great match just to have a great match. No feud was mentioned, and in fact the MX moved on to the Original MX/Paul E feud anyway. Only silver lining is that the actual title change match was recorded by a bootleg fan cam so at least that exists. I love the start to that feud. Cornette is bragging about the Midnights having retained the US Titles at the Great American Bash and ends an interview with “We’ve beaten every team there is to beat. Well except for one - the World Tag Team Champions, but of course, it’s hard to beat someone when you never get a match with them - you know what I mean?” And then they all casually walk off set. Then it escalated from there week by week. Just great stuff.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 1, 2024 15:36:33 GMT -5
Bischoff and Vince
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on May 1, 2024 21:12:23 GMT -5
Toshiaki Kawada and Kensuke Sasaki.
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