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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 22, 2024 22:01:34 GMT -5
Even just on a basic structural level you had weird-ass shit like Becky getting the Roman nap spot just to come back like a commercial break later, Nia botching every single thing imaginable, having Shayna and Zoey play the valiant face role toward the end when whether or not they're even face or not varies week to week, Chelsea being saved by the ref being distracted just to be offhandedly tossed post-commercial like it was nothing anyway, having an already ice cold division all lose to a woman who got smashed into the steps and put through the announce table... I think Becky was the right call to win but goddamn did they choose the shittiest possible way to get there.
Like the only thing it even kind of did successfully was get a pretty good reaction for Maxxine and then she just got offhandedly tossed like it was nothing by Nia anyway.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Apr 22, 2024 22:02:36 GMT -5
Liv Morgan for Queen of the Ring it is since she didn't win it all here.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 22, 2024 22:03:34 GMT -5
Nia being brought back never made sense. She's also clearly in no condition to perform on the level everyone else is. You can't just get by being big, you need to be strong enough to back your size up...
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Post by GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY on Apr 22, 2024 22:05:24 GMT -5
I liked everything that happened when it was just Becky/Liv/Nia and a triple threat/fatal four way would've been better.
then again it did have some moments I really liked, like Maxxine getting some stuff in and Chelsea not being eliminated the first time was gold. the real issue with that battle royal is the entire section with Piper/Becky/Nia, all that did was make it way more obvious to most people that Becky would win, even if I myself didn't wanna believe it. this is a very uninspiring outcome.
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Post by mistery on Apr 22, 2024 22:08:25 GMT -5
So for those not following along:
The new era is now Becky Lynch and Bayley both holding world titles. Becky is a stale pick, and Bayley has been uninspiring as hell so far as champ, with her first defense being an absolute clunker no one cared for.
The new era is literally the four horsewomen on top again for no reason. Also Nia continuing to get pushed is a baffling choice as well, because she's just awful in the ring and brings nothing to the table at this point.
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Post by longtimelurker29 on Apr 22, 2024 22:10:33 GMT -5
I thought it was fine tbh and the last 8 mins were great.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Apr 22, 2024 22:12:32 GMT -5
Midway I was rooting for Vacant to retain.
That was awe-inspiring awful. Resolute in its badness.
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Post by john84 on Apr 22, 2024 22:13:01 GMT -5
I've never been a fan of Battle Royals anyway so I was never going to be keen on the match itself. I'll admit I'm kinda surprised they didn't go with Liv since she had all the heat over Rhea but I'm not going to complain about Becky winning it, especially as I've stated in the chat thread that I don't think she'll be Champion for long anyway.
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Post by longtimelurker29 on Apr 22, 2024 22:13:57 GMT -5
So for those not following along: The new era is now Becky Lynch and Bayley both holding world titles. Becky is a stale pick, and Bayley has been uninspiring as hell so far as champ, with her first defense being an absolute clunker no one cared for. The new era is literally the four horsewomen on top again for no reason. Also Nia continuing to get pushed is a baffling choice as well, because she's just awful in the ring and brings nothing to the table at this point. I mean Becky might be stale but their biggest female superstar is hurt and they have a bunch of big shows coming up. You gotta put that belt on Becky and let her run with it and it immediately sets up a big rematch with Rhea down the line. I’m not seeing what you’re seeing about Bayley. How can she be uninspiring when she’s been champion for 2 weeks lol???
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Post by King Devitt on Apr 22, 2024 22:26:01 GMT -5
I haven't watched Raw yet, but based on the results I'm okay with it. I want the Liv Morgan heel stuff to simmer some more, let her build up and take out Becky and win the title. Make her the main big bad of the division (and she would look like a badass taking out two of the most popular women on the roster), and let her have a good run with the belt that doesn't involve Ronda goddam Rousey
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Apr 22, 2024 22:26:36 GMT -5
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Post by DSR on Apr 22, 2024 22:29:53 GMT -5
So for those not following along: The new era is now Becky Lynch and Bayley both holding world titles. Becky is a stale pick, and Bayley has been uninspiring as hell so far as champ, with her first defense being an absolute clunker no one cared for. The new era is literally the four horsewomen on top again for no reason. Also Nia continuing to get pushed is a baffling choice as well, because she's just awful in the ring and brings nothing to the table at this point. Like, Piper Niven is better in every possible way for the roles they put Nia in, except she's not related to Dwayne Johnson.
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Post by GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY on Apr 22, 2024 22:31:14 GMT -5
So for those not following along: The new era is now Becky Lynch and Bayley both holding world titles. Becky is a stale pick, and Bayley has been uninspiring as hell so far as champ, with her first defense being an absolute clunker no one cared for. The new era is literally the four horsewomen on top again for no reason. Also Nia continuing to get pushed is a baffling choice as well, because she's just awful in the ring and brings nothing to the table at this point. Like, Piper Niven is better in every possible way for the roles they put Nia in, except she's not related to Dwayne Johnson. piper is straight up better than most of the women’s roster, they just haven’t let her really do much since she got her name back
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Post by john84 on Apr 22, 2024 22:35:33 GMT -5
Like, Piper Niven is better in every possible way for the roles they put Nia in, except she's not related to Dwayne Johnson. piper is straight up better than most of the women’s roster, they just haven’t let her really do much since she got her name back Yeah, I do wish they'd let Piper be the monster that they're so desperate for Nia to be for some reason. Been a big fan of Piper since I saw some of her stuff whilst she was still Viper.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 22, 2024 22:37:10 GMT -5
There was a time when pushing Nia made sense. Then, bringing her back made some amount of sense from a standpoint of "okay, Rhea facing someone bigger than her in Australia when she's de facto gonna be a megaface there will get sympathy on her". Now, though, yeah, hope they signed her to a short-ass contract, or just have her be someone's Diesel, because she's really wrung dry.
Nia's in the top 3 of issues with that battle royal, but even if she was pre-injuries Nia who could at least move, the booking of this match sucked ass for the reasons Lizuka and others mention. Bull Nakano at her peak would not have been able to make this match not lame.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Apr 22, 2024 22:39:35 GMT -5
Like, Piper Niven is better in every possible way for the roles they put Nia in, except she's not related to Dwayne Johnson. Piper's mobile for one thing.
Nia's got more in common with a rock than Dwayne.
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Post by Renslayer on Apr 22, 2024 22:43:20 GMT -5
It was fine by me. Becky's awesome and she'll lift up the division. Also, shouts to Maxxine!
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 22, 2024 22:46:01 GMT -5
I cannot stand Nia Jax
She is atrocious to watch do anything, she's a bad promo, a terrible personality in general, and she can't work worth a shit
Complete waste to bring her back imo, and she drug that match down into oblivion. RIP to Becky, Piper, and the announce table that needed three of her bumps to break the damn thing...
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 22, 2024 22:47:16 GMT -5
So for those not following along: The new era is now Becky Lynch and Bayley both holding world titles. Becky is a stale pick, and Bayley has been uninspiring as hell so far as champ, with her first defense being an absolute clunker no one cared for. The new era is literally the four horsewomen on top again for no reason. Also Nia continuing to get pushed is a baffling choice as well, because she's just awful in the ring and brings nothing to the table at this point. I mean Becky might be stale but their biggest female superstar is hurt and they have a bunch of big shows coming up. You gotta put that belt on Becky and let her run with it and it immediately sets up a big rematch with Rhea down the line. I’m not seeing what you’re seeing about Bayley. How can she be uninspiring when she’s been champion for 2 weeks lol??? Because she beat a joshi, I’m guessing …
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Post by ace on Apr 22, 2024 22:47:23 GMT -5
If Rhea is gone for a long time then Becky is the right call because they need to fill the gap of star power on top.
If Rhea isn’t gone long…I hate it.
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