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Post by sarkerpolseng on May 4, 2024 22:30:03 GMT -5
That spot made me mad. You don't use the Burning Hammer unless its the finish; and even then it's like the last resort. You know what... you don't use the Burning Hammer unless you are Kenta Kobashi. Is nothing sacred anymore! Other than that the match was really good, but I was so not invested in it that it had no hope of ever being "great". I think the sanctity of moves started dying when the DDT became a transition move and may have gone six feet under when the Canadian Destroyer was used as a comedy spot just being no-sold back and forth. Don't understand why it is so devastating. It is just an inverted FU |
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Post by BigPoppaNasty on May 4, 2024 23:55:38 GMT -5
I think the sanctity of moves started dying when the DDT became a transition move and may have gone six feet under when the Canadian Destroyer was used as a comedy spot just being no-sold back and forth. Don't understand why it is so devastating. It is just an inverted FU It's been rarely used, and it's a "landed on the neck" move, but it's mainly just because it's been so protected over the years. It's no different than the dozens of other moves that would legit paralyze any person taking the move for real in wrestling. If someone landed a brain buster on someone with the intent to harm, it would paralyze or kill the victim, but we just think of it as a high end transitional move these days. |
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Post by asuka007 on May 5, 2024 0:30:29 GMT -5
I couldn’t really get into it and that has nothing to do with the in ring stuff or top notch crowd. I just couldn’t suspend disbelief that AJ had any chance of winning. That’s kinda of the problem in the era of long title reigns. A lot of the b ppv main events are just filler. Frankly that it is the genius in running these B-PPV’s overseas. Really nothing that significant happens during them. But the setting and the crowd atmosphere makes them feel far bigger than they actually are. |
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on May 5, 2024 1:26:19 GMT -5
Predictable? Yes.
Exceeded my expectations? Also yes.
AJ has been on a great run lately, and Cody is good at doing drama-building in his matches. They meshed VERY well together.
I about jumped out of my chair at the burning hammer. I had to explain to my partner why that move was so important (and historically protected/banned).
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Post by sarkerpolseng on May 5, 2024 2:01:17 GMT -5
Don't understand why it is so devastating. It is just an inverted FU It's been rarely used, and it's a "landed on the neck" move, but it's mainly just because it's been so protected over the years. It's no different than the dozens of other moves that would legit paralyze any person taking the move for real in wrestling. If someone landed a brain buster on someone with the intent to harm, it would paralyze or kill the victim, but we just think of it as a high end transitional move these days. Dunn and Bate use a Double Burning Hammer and it doesn't always score them the win. Not trying to be a contrarian, but I don't watch Japanese wrestling. I understand it is a protected move there, but to me it is no different than any other big finisher. The Styles Clash is more devastating to me. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 5, 2024 11:14:32 GMT -5
Only a few minutes into the match, but had to jump in this thread to mention the awesome Divorce Court AJ hit. It was beautiful execution on a severely underappreciated move
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on May 5, 2024 11:17:19 GMT -5
Predictable? Yes. Exceeded my expectations? Also yes. AJ has been on a great run lately, and Cody is good at doing drama-building in his matches. They meshed VERY well together. I about jumped out of my chair at the burning hammer. I had to explain to my partner why that move was so important (and historically protected/banned). A lot of Cody’s defenses (up until Rock or Roman) will have predictable results, but as long as the actual matches themselves were as good as yesterday’s, I think a lot of people won’t mind. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 5, 2024 11:22:36 GMT -5
Predictable? Yes. Exceeded my expectations? Also yes. AJ has been on a great run lately, and Cody is good at doing drama-building in his matches. They meshed VERY well together. I about jumped out of my chair at the burning hammer. I had to explain to my partner why that move was so important (and historically protected/banned). A lot of Cody’s defenses (up until Rock or Roman) will have predictable results, but as long as the actual matches themselves were as good as yesterday’s, I think a lot of people won’t mind. I say this all the time, 95% of well written wrestling should be fairly predictable. The trick is making people care anyways. It’s like Star Wars, you know he’s gonna blow up the Death Star at the end. George Lucas’s job was making you care about the 2 hours between meeting Luke and him winning the day. |
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Post by BigPoppaNasty on May 5, 2024 23:29:57 GMT -5
A lot of Cody’s defenses (up until Rock or Roman) will have predictable results, but as long as the actual matches themselves were as good as yesterday’s, I think a lot of people won’t mind. I say this all the time, 95% of well written wrestling should be fairly predictable. The trick is making people care anyways. It’s like Star Wars, you know he’s gonna blow up the Death Star at the end. George Lucas’s job was making you care about the 2 hours between meeting Luke and him winning the day. It's like when Sami turned on Roman and they had the match in Montreal. Given the booking leading up to the event, it was quite clear that Roman wasn't dropping the strap until Mania 39 at the very, very earliest... AND YET a huge amount of the IWC was genuinely convinced that WWE would pull an audible and give the belt to Sami because of how white hot he was at that moment. That is a job well done, because when you look back to the lead up and subsequent year for everyone in and around the Bloodline at that time, Roman had another year with the belt, Cody became the biggest character in the company and got the belt at Mania 40 in an even bigger match and setting, Sami & KO got the tag titles and remained at the top of the upper mid-card after the title reign ended culminating in Sami getting the IC title and ending Gunther's reign at Mania, Jey Uso has become an upper mid-card singles character, Solo is now leading the Bloodline in Roman's absence, and Paul Heyman was inducted into the HOF. Cody's reign will have a few token defenses like AJ where he's clearly retaining, but by the time Summerslam comes up, it'll be possible that he could drop at every single PPV after that. |
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Post by sarkerpolseng on May 6, 2024 2:06:25 GMT -5
Shout out to AJ's outfit. That was an all-timer.
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Post by Hypnosis on May 6, 2024 15:33:30 GMT -5
Shout out to AJ's outfit. That was an all-timer. I like how similar it was to purple & black Undertaker. |
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on May 6, 2024 15:54:55 GMT -5
Shout out to AJ's outfit. That was an all-timer. I think it was said on commentary that the outfit was designed to resemble the gear he had on when he beat Dusty for the NWA World Championship, which didn't seem to get focused on all that much. |
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Post by J is Justice on May 10, 2024 7:54:29 GMT -5
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Post by john84 on May 10, 2024 11:30:54 GMT -5
Shout out to AJ's outfit. That was an all-timer. I like how similar it was to purple & black Undertaker. Undertaker: (Watching Backlash) AJ'S CALLING ME OUT! Michelle: Sigh. No, Mark. He's not. It's what he wore when he beat Dusty, it's to taunt Cody not you. Undertaker: (Not listening to Michelle, gets up and runs (slowly) out of the room) TO ME MY TIGERS!!! WE MUST GO!!! Michelle: (Groaning) at least put some pants on Mark! And don't forget to get some ingredients for the Casserole! |
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on May 10, 2024 17:08:30 GMT -5
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on May 10, 2024 17:31:06 GMT -5
Meltzer doing his ratings: TIME TO RUN IT UP LETS GO
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 10, 2024 17:57:03 GMT -5
I do find it funny seeing people going, "OH MY GOD HE GAVE IT TO A WWE MATCH NO WAY," when he gave two of them to Mania last year.
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Post by XIII on May 11, 2024 12:05:20 GMT -5
I mean a Meltzer 5 is like a 3 now since he started giving out 6s and 7s.
Cody and a JUICED AJ casually having a strong style match in a WWE ring in Lyon, France is a wild sentence de to type. lol
I’ll give it a 5, it was really good match and the best that AJ has looked in a minute.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 11, 2024 12:20:14 GMT -5
If I was writing the Observer, I’ll admit I’m one of “those fans” who would have bumped many of Meltzer’s WWE 4 1/2 and 4 3/4s up to 5-star and sometimes even 6-star, but eh, his tastes. I just don’t have the same issues with American wrestling heat and pacing that he does.
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Post by polarbearpete on May 11, 2024 18:04:58 GMT -5
I mean a Meltzer 5 is like a 3 now since he started giving out 6s and 7s. Cody and a JUICED AJ casually having a strong style match in a WWE ring in Lyon, France is a wild sentence de to type. lol I’ll give it a 5, it was really good match and the best that AJ has looked in a minute. He’s given out greater than 5 stars as early as 1989 (6 stars for Steamboat-Flair). |
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