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Post by eJm on Aug 10, 2007 9:53:18 GMT -5
So I was browsing around a few sites I go on, until I found this discussion about why people like Hayden Panettiere considering she is still 17. So this goes on for about two pages before changing to preventing paedophilia (by, for example, removing people like Hayden from the site), but this was until I found this gem of a page. This was someone disagreeing with someone else's comment.
''Except for one thing: pedofilia is a disease (all psychologist agreed that it is a mental disorder), this implicates that it can be cured. Therefore I don't believe that releasing tension could solve the problem. Only medical treatment can. That's why they should be banned from the internet.''
So apparently, because Psychologists call it a mental disorder, it automatically becomes a disease. Obviously.
And then came this one straight after.
''I just wanted to add that while pedophilia is a disease there is no form of treatment avaliable right now. From what I've been told, most doctors tell their patients to stay far away from children and live as normal of a life as possible. Like any psychological disorder pedophilia isn't curable like a physical illness, it is merely controlled through counseling and other forms of therapy.''
So basically, you don't choose to be a pedophile, you catch it from someone else who's a pedophile.
Next thing you'll be telling me is that becoming a serial killer is a disease.
So, any other 'What the Smurf' statments?
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Post by Topher is Human on Aug 10, 2007 9:56:31 GMT -5
Johnny Nitro, ECW World Champion...
for MANY reasons
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Post by Baixo Astral on Aug 10, 2007 9:57:22 GMT -5
Johnny Parisi vs...
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Post by W?Y on Aug 10, 2007 10:01:20 GMT -5
The first time I saw the Alvin & The Chipmunks poster. That, and I died a little inside.
In a good way, I said "WTF?" after the trailer for Cloverfield. That was damn cool.
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Post by Mr. Mediocre on Aug 10, 2007 10:05:46 GMT -5
So I was browsing around a few sites I go on, until I found this discussion about why people like Hayden Panettiere considering she is still 17. So this goes on for about two pages before changing to preventing paedophilia (by, for example, removing people like Hayden from the site), but this was until I found this gem of a page. This was someone disagreeing with someone else's comment. ''Except for one thing: pedofilia is a disease (all psychologist agreed that it is a mental disorder), this implicates that it can be cured. Therefore I don't believe that releasing tension could solve the problem. Only medical treatment can. That's why they should be banned from the internet.'' So apparently, because Psychologists call it a mental disorder, it automatically becomes a disease. Obviously. And then came this one straight after. ''I just wanted to add that while pedophilia is a disease there is no form of treatment avaliable right now. From what I've been told, most doctors tell their patients to stay far away from children and live as normal of a life as possible. Like any psychological disorder pedophilia isn't curable like a physical illness, it is merely controlled through counseling and other forms of therapy.'' So basically, you don't choose to be a pedophile, you catch it from someone else who's a pedophile. Next thing you'll be telling me is that becoming a serial killer is a disease. So, any other 'What the Smurf' statments? Um...what is confusing about that? Every psychology course I've taken that would cover the subject of pedophilia (abnormal psychology, psychology of crime and violence, etc.) has clearly stated that pedophilia IS a mental illness and one doesn't choose to be a pedophile. It's also not curable at all. The DSM-IV also labels it as a mental illness. That doesn't excuse the actions of pedophiles at all, but I'm not sure what you're unclear on here.
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Post by Black Hammer Rocks the AssWhip on Aug 10, 2007 10:07:37 GMT -5
Pacman Jones in TNA.
Seriously.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Aug 10, 2007 10:19:08 GMT -5
So basically, you don't choose to be a pedophile, you catch it from someone else who's a pedophile. Firstly, where did it say that in either of those quotes? Or is that part of the definition of disease? Because one of the many theories as to how we become the way we are - whether that be normal or a paedophile - is through conditioning, which can take the form of seeing someone else exhibit paedophile behaviour or seeing it on TV. Therefore, whiel you can't 'catch' it, you could very easily become a paedophile because someone close to you is one.
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Post by eJm on Aug 10, 2007 10:24:56 GMT -5
To the posters who quoted me, it just reeks of 'Let's blame someone else for my/our/someone's problems and not the actual person'
I just can't believe that people don't choose to be pedophiles. It's the same as people not choosing to be murderers or robbers. Like I said, it just reeks of finger pointing
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Post by Mr. Mediocre on Aug 10, 2007 10:30:03 GMT -5
I would argue that some people (not all) don't choose to be robbers or murderers. They're called kleptomaniacs and sociopaths (or, moreso, psychopaths). And it's not a matter of blaming someone else. If someone rapes a child or steals or murders someone, the blame is still on them. They still deserve punishment, even if they genuinely can't help themselves because they're born that way.
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Post by Chucklehead,baby!!! on Aug 10, 2007 10:30:50 GMT -5
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Post by eJm on Aug 10, 2007 10:32:26 GMT -5
I would argue that some people (not all) don't choose to be robbers or murderers. They're called kleptomaniacs and sociopaths (or, moreso, psychopaths). And it's not a matter of blaming someone else. If someone rapes a child or steals or murders someone, the blame is still on them. They still deserve punishment, even if they genuinely can't help themselves because they're born that way. You do have a point, there. I just found that whole thing weird and made a thread about it. If it helps, I'll change my first post and we can start again. 1. Because I don't want to get too heated with this and 2. I suck at debates
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Post by Mr. Mediocre on Aug 10, 2007 10:36:43 GMT -5
Don't worry about editing it, man. I, too, don't want to get heated; I've yet to have a legitimate beef with a Crapper and I'd like to keep it that way.
Let me say this, and I think it's something we can agree on no matter anyone's opinion on the origins of pedophilia, someone who acts upon the urge ABSOLUTELY must be punished and kept away from normal society for as long as possible.
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Post by Square on Aug 10, 2007 10:37:22 GMT -5
almost every eJm post
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Post by donvito on Aug 10, 2007 10:37:45 GMT -5
Anything ever posted by stevierichardsfan.
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Post by eJm on Aug 10, 2007 10:37:55 GMT -5
almost every eJm post HEY!
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Post by Square on Aug 10, 2007 10:38:46 GMT -5
almost every eJm post HEY! you know I loves ya
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Post by eJm on Aug 10, 2007 10:41:03 GMT -5
HEY! you know I loves ya Yeah, I know you do. *Square gets gored by Rhino*
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Post by Square on Aug 10, 2007 10:48:14 GMT -5
Yeah, I know you do. *Square gets gored by Rhino* *slides out of the way and Rhino runs round the world and GORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRES eJm*
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Aug 10, 2007 11:16:29 GMT -5
I just can't believe that people don't choose to be pedophiles. Why would someone choose to be among the most hated people in the world? Do people choose to be homosexual? That was illegal until 1967. I don't think before then chose to be breaking the law just from their desires.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Aug 10, 2007 11:29:17 GMT -5
American Psycho - Forget the film that's one messed up book.
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