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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Sept 10, 2007 19:48:34 GMT -5
get it. Interesting random Rocky Trivia. Only three Actors appear in all 6 Rocky movies. Stallone, Burt Young, and Tony Burton. Since you're the ROCKY fan, who did Burton play again? Duke. Apollo's (and later Rocky's) trainer.
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Post by rra on Sept 10, 2007 19:51:47 GMT -5
Since you're the ROCKY fan, who did Burton play again? Duke. Apollo's (and later Rocky's) trainer. OHHH, damn you're right. Thanks man.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Sept 10, 2007 19:55:13 GMT -5
Duke. Apollo's (and later Rocky's) trainer. OHHH, damn you're right. Thanks man. No problem.
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Post by WarriorWarrior on Sept 10, 2007 20:52:35 GMT -5
ARE YOU CRAZY???
Rocky IV is my favorite. It is also the most successful of the series. The soundtrack is my favorite to any film. Hearts On Fire, No Easy Way Out etc.
4/10 is stupid.
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Post by rra on Sept 10, 2007 21:12:41 GMT -5
ARE YOU CRAZY??? Rocky IV is my favorite. It is also the most successful of the series. The soundtrack is my favorite to any film. Hearts On Fire, No Easy Way Out etc. 4/10 is stupid. With your money argument, SHREK 2 is the best movie in 2004. No Way in Hell Besides, I gave it an even LOWER grade, so spare the venom for ME.
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Post by 404error on Sept 10, 2007 21:21:19 GMT -5
Not to mention he needed Duke and his aides to be seen as a legit champ. Get it? get it. Interesting random Rocky Trivia. Only three Actors appear in all 6 Rocky movies. Stallone, Burt Young, and Tony Burton. Isn't Talia Shire in all the films? I think the flashbacks of her in Rocky Balboa count.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Sept 10, 2007 22:04:57 GMT -5
get it. Interesting random Rocky Trivia. Only three Actors appear in all 6 Rocky movies. Stallone, Burt Young, and Tony Burton. Isn't Talia Shire in all the films? I think the flashbacks of her in Rocky Balboa count. I wouldn't count the flashbacks, they're not newly filmed.
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Post by rossamania on Sept 11, 2007 7:53:16 GMT -5
My favorite part of "Rocky" is when Paulie and Rocky are in the meat locker and Paulie's talking to Rocky, saying that he doesn't think he can make it... something along those lines. Rocky starts punching the meat and we cut to a nice medium shot of Paulie screaming "You're breaking the ribs! You're breaking the ribs!"
I liked how in "Rocky II", instead of making it like Rocky's making a comeback for glory or for money, it's because it's all he really knows how to do.
In "Rocky IV" during the final fight with Drago, I love it when Drago looks all bewildered in his corner and says something along the lines of "He is like iron... like steel!"
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Sept 11, 2007 8:16:51 GMT -5
I'm enjoying these reviews, guys. Good job. Make like Thread Pirate Bob and finish those reviews pronto, RRA.
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Post by rra on Sept 11, 2007 9:04:56 GMT -5
I'm enjoying these reviews, guys. Good job. Make like Thread Pirate Bob and finish those reviews pronto, RRA. Yessa Mastah But if one wants quality, one must be patient.
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Post by bigHEADinc on Sept 11, 2007 9:07:58 GMT -5
I just wanted to say, I know RRA hasn't done his review for Rocky IV yet, but the 4/10 from Bob (and the promises of lower from RRA)... I just want to say Rocky IV is possibly my favorite from the series. Don't get me wrong. I understand that, as a movie, it is the second weakest (Rocky V was just bad), but man... Rocky IV is the move (Like National Lampoon's Vacation) that if I ever run across it on TV, I watch most (if not all) of it. Every single time. Just sooooo good. I remember me and an ex were arguing about movies the other hadn't seen (She never saw Rocky IV and I never saw Interview With A Vampire) so we rented both movies. We watched Interview first, and it was good, but the best was to come. After Rocky IV was done, I looked at her and she just had this bewildered "What the hell did I just watch?" look on her face. She said that she almost broke up with me then and there.
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Post by rra on Sept 11, 2007 9:11:17 GMT -5
I just wanted to say, I know RRA hasn't done his review for Rocky IV yet, but the 4/10 from Bob (and the promises of lower from RRA)... I just want to say Rocky IV is possibly my favorite from the series. Don't get me wrong. I understand that, as a movie, it is the second weakest (Rocky V was just bad), but man... Rocky IV is the move (Like National Lampoon's Vacation) that if I ever run across it on TV, I watch most (if not all) of it. Every single time. Just sooooo good. I remember me and an ex were arguing about movies the other hadn't seen (She never saw Rocky IV and I never saw Interview With A Vampire) so we rented both movies. We watched Interview first, and it was good, but the best was to come. After Rocky IV was done, I looked at her and she just had this bewildered "What the hell did I just watch?" look on her face. She said that she almost broke up with me then and there. Well, if you thought Bobby S was hard, I'm more brutal. Trust me, while technically ROCKY IV isn't the worst of the franchise, its the one I despise the most.
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Post by rra on Sept 11, 2007 9:35:46 GMT -5
ROCKY III (1982) - **The drama and characters are gone, the contrived street-peddling melodrama and required walk-on appearances have stormed the walls of the castle. From the power montage, we see how from his title win, Balboa becomes a global celebrity that does commercials, TV gigs, and earning advertizing revenues up the ass. Though, we never learn how he conquered that mumbling-problem of his from the second movie, but whatever. He successfully defends his belt match after match and his brother-in-law Paulie is jealous as hell that this former thumb-breaking jobber for the Mob is now a somebody. He gets drunk and wrecks a Rocky pinball machine*, and Rocky has to bail him out...and apparently, this isn't the first time. Then Balboa does a goofy fodder sequence in rasslin Hulk Hogan, err ThunderLips. Remember when media and society itself accepted kayfabe in that wrestling was real?** Anyway, whats with "ThunderLips" as a name? Stallone, who wrote up Apollo Creed and Ivan Drago, couldn't come up with a better wrestling name? Did he pull a Verne Gagne on us? Anyway, "ThunderLips" would make sense if he SUCKED, but whatever. "Nobody does this much for charity." "Bob Hope would." "That's true." So Balboa gets his statue unveiled, and basically announces retirement. Clubber Lang bursts through and demand a title shot. He's more hungry and determined to be world champion than Balboa ever was. While Balboa was coasting with ham & eggers, Lang was wasting everyone like Mr. T did with his money. We then follow Rocky not making a serious effort in training while Lang is all bad ass. You know, Rocky deserved to get his meatball ass beaten into parmisan cheese, he really did. Now, why the hell did I just summarize the first act of ROCKY III? Because its the only segments of the film that works. Nothing special, but its working as an action movie. I hated how the ROCKY sequels ended up being action movies like the BATMAN pictures did for awhile, but for ROCKY III, it was working as a decent action picture. Well, it was working until there was that ridiculous scene when Mickey has a heart attack in the lobby and Rocky goes on to get p****-whipped by the 3rd round. This almost is a faithful recreation of the Buster Douglas story, about a decade before Buster Douglas. This is when the movie jumped the shark for me, and for rest of the picture, it goes on autopilot. Somehow, Rocky goes from being the tough neighborhood bastard to being mortally afraid of Clubber Lang or whatever. Nevermind the sillyness of Rocky going out for revenge on Clubber for Mickey croaking. Whats with ROCKY III and ROCKY IV being revenge stories? How does one get revenge by just beating those guys in a match? This aint wrestling. Its not like Rocky kills them or gets them arrested. Its like he needs a cheap excuse to bash more skulls in the ring. And really, whats with that scene between Stallone and Shire where Sly acts like a total b**** this side of Terrell Owens? Hell, I actually rooted on Lang to kick his ass. But what gets me is a problem that 80's action movies had: Unintentional homosexual undertones. I mean, I once asked a homosexual friend of mine to watch that whole crap of Stallone and Carl Weathers racing each other in short shorts on the beach and asked him if its really as gay as it looks. "It looks like they're training for the Gay Olympics." I KNEW IT! My last complaint though is ROCKY III begins the little problem that even ROCKY fans hated. That is, tweaking up the timeline. According to ROCKY and ROCKY II, both Rocky/Creed matches happened in 1976. So ROCKY III says its 3 years later, which would make it be 1979, right? Wrong, its 1982. Sad thing is, this problem gets worse as the sequels progress....... *=Remember Pinball machines? Man I love them. Too bad its a dying art. **=Apparently, the people who booked that match didn't tell Rocky the pre-planned ending....a deleted scene has Vince Russo coming out and doing a shoot promo. Rocky then lands a knockout punch.
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Post by jzbadblood on Sept 11, 2007 9:56:52 GMT -5
Rocky V was great. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 11, 2007 10:07:01 GMT -5
I love the Rocky series. From 2 on, it became a cheesy rehash of the first film, but they have it's goofy charm.
The first film though, is a classic in my opinion. The emotions that came out of Stallone through the character of Rocky Balboa is on par with some of the classic performances in modern film. The boyish ways he tries to charm Adrian, his self doubt about his station in life, it's powerful stuff.
I still pop this film in from time to time, and it never fails to lift me up.
I really hope you guys review another classic from the 70's Saturday Night Fever soon. I'd love to see your thoughts on Travolta's performance.
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Post by rra on Sept 11, 2007 10:24:29 GMT -5
I love the Rocky series. From 2 on, it became a cheesy rehash of the first film, but they have it's goofy charm. The first film though, is a classic in my opinion. The emotions that came out of Stallone through the character of Rocky Balboa is on par with some of the classic performances in modern film. The boyish ways he tries to charm Adrian, his self doubt about his station in life, it's powerful stuff. I still pop this film in from time to time, and it never fails to lift me up. I really hope you guys review another classic from the 70's Saturday Night Fever soon. I'd love to see your thoughts on Travolta's performance. Its funny that you bring that up. Why? Because Stallone was a "silent"* producer on SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER, and he ended up scripting/directing the (infamous) sequel STAYIN ALIVE. *=Thats the term for uncredited producers, by choice or other circumstances.
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Post by rra on Sept 11, 2007 10:24:53 GMT -5
Rocky V was great. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, how about Sage Stallone, eh?
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 11, 2007 10:29:38 GMT -5
I love the Rocky series. From 2 on, it became a cheesy rehash of the first film, but they have it's goofy charm. The first film though, is a classic in my opinion. The emotions that came out of Stallone through the character of Rocky Balboa is on par with some of the classic performances in modern film. The boyish ways he tries to charm Adrian, his self doubt about his station in life, it's powerful stuff. I still pop this film in from time to time, and it never fails to lift me up. I really hope you guys review another classic from the 70's Saturday Night Fever soon. I'd love to see your thoughts on Travolta's performance. Its funny that you bring that up. Why? Because Stallone was a "silent"* producer on SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER, and he ended up scripting/directing the (infamous) sequel STAYIN ALIVE. *=Thats the term for uncredited producers, by choice or other circumstances. Yeah I knew about that...part of the reason I brought it up. Also because I really enjoyed Saturday Night Fever as well and wanted to see your review on it (Bob's too).
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Post by rra on Sept 11, 2007 10:35:13 GMT -5
Its funny that you bring that up. Why? Because Stallone was a "silent"* producer on SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER, and he ended up scripting/directing the (infamous) sequel STAYIN ALIVE. *=Thats the term for uncredited producers, by choice or other circumstances. Yeah I knew about that...part of the reason I brought it up. Also because I really enjoyed Saturday Night Fever as well and wanted to see your review on it (Bob's too). Considering that the late Gene Siskel loved SNF so much, he forked a good fortune for Travolta's suit....maybe. But it won't be under the FRANCHISE REVIEW label. The Franchise Review is for franchises that have at least THREE movies to it, a true franchise*. That Travolta stuff is only 2 movies. *=Unless you want to count THE WHOLE NINE YEARS and CANNONBALL RUN as franchises.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 11, 2007 10:36:06 GMT -5
Gotcha.
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