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Post by The Great El' PANDA King on Sept 13, 2007 22:23:06 GMT -5
Beyblade > Yu-Gi-Oh GX. Beyblade became HARDCORE in the 3rd season. First season of Beyblade, yeah that was great. Loved the Kaiba betrayal. Second season....not so much. Kaiba even betrayed them again. Third Season............Kaiba SMURFING BETRAYED THEM AGAIN! Basically, the second and third seasons were basically the exact same thing except with different animators. There was no Kaiba in Beyblade. And Kai didn't betray them. In the third season, EVERYONE betrayed each other.
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Post by Methusael86 on Sept 13, 2007 22:23:37 GMT -5
Speaking of bad anime, the 2nd Season/Series/Whatever of Medabots. What was the freaking point?!
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Post by eJm on Sept 13, 2007 22:23:53 GMT -5
First season of Beyblade, yeah that was great. Loved the Kaiba betrayal. Second season....not so much. Kaiba even betrayed them again. Third Season............Kaiba SMURFING BETRAYED THEM AGAIN! Basically, the second and third seasons were basically the exact same thing except with different animators. Sounds like Dragon Ball Z... with Vegeta always screwing things up by helping the bad guys so he can fight them. It was. And even after the second time, they still GOT HIM FOR THE TEAM! It was the case of 'Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me thrice....well, I'm an idiot.'
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Post by The Great El' PANDA King on Sept 13, 2007 22:25:40 GMT -5
Speaking of bad anime, the 2nd Season/Series/Whatever of Medabots. What was the freaking point?! Medabots season one was one of the best anime EVERZ. Not story wise, but it was just awesome. Season one makes the second season's horribleness even out.
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Post by eJm on Sept 13, 2007 22:26:52 GMT -5
First season of Beyblade, yeah that was great. Loved the Kaiba betrayal. Second season....not so much. Kaiba even betrayed them again. Third Season............Kaiba SMURFING BETRAYED THEM AGAIN! Basically, the second and third seasons were basically the exact same thing except with different animators. There was no Kaiba in Beyblade. And Kai didn't betray them. In the third season, EVERYONE betrayed each other. I like Kaiba. He should be in everything ;D And the reason everyone betrayed each other was because noone wanted Kai to do it to them again.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 13, 2007 22:28:48 GMT -5
I'll catch crap for this, but Fruits Basket is boring as hell.
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Post by The Great El' PANDA King on Sept 13, 2007 22:30:30 GMT -5
There was no Kaiba in Beyblade. And Kai didn't betray them. In the third season, EVERYONE betrayed each other. I like Kaiba. He should be in everything ;D And the reason everyone betrayed each other was because noone wanted Kai to do it to them again. If you like Kiba, you should watch GARO. It's the live-action Kaiba.
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Post by wildojinx on Sept 14, 2007 0:21:34 GMT -5
Ok I got your number 1, it was the captain america cartoon. All it was is moving animatics, the lip sync NEVER matched up. It was like they took jack kirby's drawings from the comic cut them out, than slid them across the screen. All of those Marvel Superheroes cartoons from the 60s sucked, the only redeeming factor to them was the iron man theme song: youtube.com/watch?v=0Wn4iYoMcAA
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Post by Mitch 4:20 on Sept 14, 2007 0:43:22 GMT -5
Gadget and the Gadgetinis They ruined Dr. Claw. RUINED HIM! never heard of it.
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Post by Mitch 4:20 on Sept 14, 2007 0:47:20 GMT -5
Gem
Also, please add any current/recent remake I've seen from old 80s cartoons. heman, Transformers, TMNT etc...
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Post by Loki on Sept 14, 2007 3:41:19 GMT -5
Anything based on card games... Seriously, would you watch a cartoon where they play bridge for 3/4 of the episode, and the show is an excuse to plug the new Bicycle decks?
While we're at it, I caught some bits of an anime based on small cars racing. Kinda like slot cars, but without the slot track. Awful...
And every soccer anime not called Captain Tsubasa.
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Post by Super Nimieboo on Sept 14, 2007 3:52:28 GMT -5
Most of the stuff the Hanna Barbera mchine was cranking out in the 70s.
The thing with the Werebaby? Forgot what it was called but it was just like Scooby Doo except instead of Scooby there was a baby that turned into a were-baby. ...not even a werewolf. ...just a were-baby.
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Post by Super Nimieboo on Sept 14, 2007 3:57:09 GMT -5
That was one of the first animes I saw. How it didn't turn me off to anime I'll never know. The voice acting is rotten. The story is rotten. It's a shojo wrapped in a shouen which is wrapped into Dragonball Z for girls. That's not a crime. For most horrendous anime I'd have to say most shonen with no point. I'd almost forgotten how terrible Pilot Candidate was until someone refreshed my memory and SD Gundam was like "I didn't come here for this s**t! I came here for mecha battles! "
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Post by Baixo Astral on Sept 14, 2007 3:57:51 GMT -5
Has anyone said Inch High: Private Eye yet? Cos that sucked.
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Post by Super Nimieboo on Sept 14, 2007 4:00:31 GMT -5
Has anyone said Inch High: Private Eye yet? Cos that sucked. I think that falls into my generalization void of "70s cartoons cranked out non-stop by Hanna Barbera". Wait. I think it was in the 80s. Still. ..the major portion of HB cartoons were terrible. Inch High Private Eye, Shojo Weenie, Were-Baby and the other Scooby Doo rip offs, stuff not involving Devlin or Johnny Quest.. . ..
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Post by Baixo Astral on Sept 14, 2007 4:10:20 GMT -5
Yeah... HB were seriously cracking them out. I think half of their stuff just reused old artwork, with just a lead character change.
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Post by Super Nimieboo on Sept 14, 2007 4:14:25 GMT -5
Yeah... HB were seriously cracking them out. I think half of their stuff just reused old artwork, with just a lead character change. lol sort of like the Space Ghost/Cartoon Planet and Sealab 2021 reusing old footage because it cost less gag/truth? HB was a powerhouse of ...terrible concepts and changing the color scheme of an old character to make it look like a new one. (Like the Harvey Bidrmans episode about identity theft where they had Shaggy, the guy from Jabberjaw and the guy from that cartoon about the dune buggy in a line up.)
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Post by Baixo Astral on Sept 14, 2007 4:17:05 GMT -5
I swear I've seen a recoloured Gator in at least 5 HB 1970s cartoons. Which is stupid, as that character looks terrible.
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Post by Super Nimieboo on Sept 14, 2007 4:25:32 GMT -5
Which Gator, the character who got his own show or the background characters? Because I think I've seen both re-used. From our good friends at Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanna-BarberaThe Quality Controversy: " Over three decades, Hanna-Barbera produced prime-time, weekday afternoon, and Saturday morning cartoons for all three major networks in the United States, and for syndication. The studio has been accused of contributing to the decrease in quality of animation and TV cartoons from the 1960s through the 1980s. However, the studio, and most other producers of American television animation, were forced to work with small budgets which did not allow for full theatrical-quality animation. At MGM, Hanna and Barbera spent between $40,000 and $50,000 to produce each seven-minute cartoon short, whereas they had less than $3,000 to spend on their first TV cartoons of equivalent length. The perception of cartoons as a "kid's medium" made them a low priority for television executives and advertisers. For example, one 22-minute (30 minutes with commercials) episode of Josie and the Pussycats in 1970 had the same budget--$45,000--as one 8-minute Tom and Jerry short from the late-1940s. Such budgetary constraints demanded a change in production values.
In a story published by The Saturday Evening Post, critics stated that Hanna-Barbera was taking on more work than they could handle and were resorting to shortcuts only a television audience would tolerate. An executive who worked for Walt Disney said, "We don't even consider [them] competition." [1] Ironically, during the late 1950s and early 1960s Hanna-Barbera was the only animation studio in Hollywood that was actively hiring, and they picked up quite a number of Disney artists who were laid off during this period.
Hanna-Barbera introduced limited animation, popularized in theatrical animation by UPA, on The Ruff & Reddy Show as a way of reducing costs. This led to a reduction in animation quality, which was counteracted by a far greater emphasis on character design and posing, as well as scripted jokes and voice work. The studio's solution to the resulting criticism was to go into features, producing both higher-quality versions of their TV cartoons (Hey There, It's Yogi Bear! in 1964, The Man Called Flintstone in 1966, and Jetsons: The Movie in 1990) and adaptations of other material (Charlotte's Web in 1973 and Heidi's Song in 1982).
The field of American animation reached its low point in the mid-1970s, even as the audience for Saturday morning cartoons was at its peak. The strong focus on scripting and dialogue that had carried the earlier cartoons was more or less gone by 1973, as the studio's output had increased to the point that story quality had to take a backseat to production output. By this time, most Hanna-Barbera shows had degenerated into variations on but a few themes, with each successful formula (The Flintstones, Scooby-Doo, SuperFriends) milked dry through repetition. Various animation short-cuts became unfortunate Hanna-Barbera trademarks, such as plots being advanced by characters seen only as "talking heads," and crashes and disasters happening just off the frame, heard but not seen. The soundtracks rather than the visuals carried the majority of the plot and humor of the cartoons. This era of H-B animation is frequently skewered by Adult Swim (most notably Space Ghost: Coast to Coast, Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law and Sealab 2021) and in many of Robert Smigel's "TV Funhouse" segments on Saturday Night Live." Legendary.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Sept 14, 2007 4:28:20 GMT -5
I mean that Gator that was on Inch High... did he get a spin-off?
Also... gotta love Josie and the Vaginacats!
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