Super Smash Bros. Brawl Thread-ONLINE CONFIRMED!

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I will try to keep this main post here updated as much as possible and pop in often.

Feel free to share your thoughts about the game, any speculation, rumors, cool stuff, etc.

The site updates during these times

Pacific-Midnight
Mountain-1 AM
Central (thats me)-2 AM
Eastern-3 AM

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Everything listed below HAS been confirmed from the website, no hype or rumors below.

*=confirmed through trailers, no further info on website
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RELEASE DATE DECEMBER 3RD
ONLINE CONFIRMED!
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Characters:
~=Special Moves revealed
Mario~
Link~
Kirby
Pikachu
Zelda (interesting to note, no mention of Shiek)
Samus
Wario~
Pit~
Meta Knight~
Solid Snake*
Fox~
Bowser
Donkey Kong
Yoshi
Ike~
Pokemon Trainer~
Peach
Diddy~
Ice Climbers
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Stages:
Battlefield (SSBM)
Yoshi's Island (SMW 2)
Lylat Cruise (Star Fox Assault I assume)
Delfino Plaza (Super Mario Sunshine)
Mario Circuit (Mario Kart)*
Halberd (dunno official name)*
Castle Seige (Fire Emblem)
The Bridge of Eldin (Zelda; Twilight Princess)
Smashville (Animal Crossing, level and setting shifts depending on day and time game is played)
Rumble Falls
Sky World
Wario Ware
Pokemon Stadium 2
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Battle Items (* means confirmed, but does not have seperate article):
Gooey Bomb
Cracker Launcher
Banana Peel
Super Scope
Poke Balls:
---Groudon
---Chickarita
---Goldeen
---Deoxys
---Munchlax
Assist Trophies:
---Hammer Bros
---Nintendog
---Samurai Goroh
---Dr. Wright
---Knuckle Joe
---Devil
---Andross (SNES)
---Lyn
Bumper
Samus' Armor
Pitfalls
Smoke Bombs
Franklin Badge
Superspicy Curry
Golden Hammer
Hammer*
Lip's Stick*
Metal Box*
Cloaking Device*
Crates and Barrels:
Changes depending on stage, crates slide around and can be walked on
Final Smash Icons
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Collectable items
Trophies
Stickers
CD's (adds new songs)
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Final Smash:
A crazy strong attack, each character has one.
---Link-Triforce Slash-Traps character as Link wails with sword.
---Mario-Mario Finale-Launches giant fireball
---Pikachu-Volt Tackle-a controllable ball of lightning
---Kirby-Chef Kirby-*
---Boswer-Giga Bowser-Transforms into the beast of legend.
---Samus-Zero Laser/Zero Suit Samus
---DK-Konga Blast
---Pit-Palutena's Army
---Yoshi-Yoshi Dragon
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Bosses:
Petey Pirahna
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Special Brawl:
The new Special Brawl adjustments allow the players to adjust ALL settings. Instead of having to settle with one type of battle (such as Giant Melee or Stamina Melee), it now allows several types at once, their example being Stamina Mega Flower Curry Heavy Slow Angled Brawl.

The options (as the post suggested and besides normal) are as follows:

Stamina-300% (sudden death), Stamina
Size-Mega, Mini
Head-Flower, Bunny
Body-Metal, Clear
Status-Curry, Reflect
Gravity-Light, Heavy
Speed-Slow, Fast
Gravity-Light, Heavy
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Music:
My Music-Allows the player to adjust how often a certain song plays on a stage, promises both old songs in their original form (SMB, Legend of Zelda) and/or remade, and newer songs from franchises (Twilight Princess, New SMB).

Link to all music announced so far: www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/index.html

Musician Listing:

Akihiro Honda Metal Gear Solid 4:
Guns Of The Patriots / Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Arata Iiyoshi Pokémon Mystery Dungeon /beatmania II DX
Asuka Ohta New Super Mario Bros. /Yoshi Touch&Go
Hajime Wakai Pikmin series / Star Fox series
Jun Fukuda killer7 / contact
Kazumi Totaka Animal Crossing series / Yoshi series
Keigo Ozaki PROJECT SYLPHEED
Kenichi Okuma Melty Lancer series / Welcome to Pia Carrot!! 3
Kenji Ito ROMANCING SAGA series / CULDCEPT SAGA
Kenji Yamamoto Super Metroid / Metroid Prime series
Kentaro Ishizaka
Koji Hayama Cho Aniki / Ape Escape 2
Koji Kondo Super Mario Bros. series / The Legend of Zelda series
Masaaki Iwasaki MOTHER3 / Chelnov (Genesis)
Masafumi Takada killer7 / GOD HAND
Masato Kouda Monster Hunter / Devil May Cry
Michiko Naruke Wild Arms series
Minako Hamano Metroid Fusion
Motoi Sakuraba Golden Sun series / Mario Golf & Tennis series
Noriyuki Iwadare GRANDIA series
Ryoji Yocrapomi WarioWare, Inc. : Mega Microgame$!
Seiji Momoi METEOS / The Glory of Hercules III - The Silence of Gods
Shogo Sakai Super Smash Bros. Melee /MOTHER3
Shota Kageyama Luminous Arc
Takahiro Nishi GRANDIA series / PROJECT SYLPHEED
Tomoko Sasaki NiGHTS
Toru Minegishi The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Toshiyuki Sudo Everybody Votes Channel
Tsukasa Masuko Star Force / Magical Starsign
Yasufumi Fukuda Kamaitachi no Yoru 2
Yasunori Mitsuda CHRONO TRIGGER / XENOGEARS
Yoko Shimomura Kingdom Hearts series
Yuka Tsujiyoko Fire Emblem series
Yusuke Takahama Digital Pinball series
Yutaka Iraha SYLPHEED series
Yuzo Koshiro ActRaiser / Street of Rage
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Controls:
Four Types of Control: Wii-mote, Wii-mote with Nunchuck, Classic Controller, Gamecube Controller

Custom Controller Configurations saved within names
How to attack using the different controllers (summary on pg. 3)

Different combos can be done by either holding the A button or pressing it repeatedly

You can now run and jump while shooting

Footstool jump, allows you to jump on and off an opponents head.

Tether Recovery-Dangling on a cliff by some weapon. Basically what Link could do with the hookshot and Samus with her whip in Melee.

Gliding-Winged characters (for now Meta Knight, Pit, and Charizard) are able to glide in the air, but cannot turn. The glide is cancelled if you stall out or are attacked.

[Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action]

When does this game come out? I can't wait for this and Metroid Prime 3.

[gmanquik]

Sometime in August, I do believe. I just hope they bring back my favorite character (Young Link) as he's just so much better than Adult Link.

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I dunno about August, I thought it was around November or something like that. They keep updating the main site each day, so I dunno how much extra there is. Of course, they can always waste a days post by telling everyone how to do smash attacks, how to work a beam sword, etc. Stuff thats already assumed, ya know.

They also have soundtrack updates on the site, but I can't really do any good to them here.

[bigHEADinc]

Who's your top 5 brawlers? All of mine are from Melee...

5. Marth - Speedy and slashy all in one...
4. Fox - Still no match with my friend who uses him...
3. Pichu - Laugh all you want, but the Dan of the Smash Bros game has a pretty intense arsenal...
2. Zelda - No Sheik here, she's pretty and devastating...
1. Captain Falcon - Bionic Knee will destroy all...

[gmanquik]

bigheadinc said:

Who's your top 5 brawlers? All of mine are from Melee...

5. Marth - Speedy and slashy all in one...
4. Fox - Still no match with my friend who uses him...
3. Pichu - Laugh all you want, but the Dan of the Smash Bros game has a pretty intense arsenal...
2. Zelda - No Sheik here, she's pretty and devastating...
1. Captain Falcon - Bionic Knee will destroy all...

My top 5...

5. Pichu. His attacks are absolutely devastating. Power at a price.
4. Luigi. His additional flying headbutt save and his basic attacks make him hit harder than any swordsman.
3. Mr. Game and Watch, as his basic smashes (especially the torch) and his oil bucket catch are wonderful.
2. Mewtwo. He just lasts so long, and I also love his Hammer attack. He's unique.
1. Young Link. He's all of Link, with added speed, wall-jumping, better B-attacks, and almost equally powered sword attacks. What does he lose to the Adult? Weight, throws, and a little traction. Big deal.

That's what I'm sticking with. Mentions like Ganon, Peach, and Jigglypuff are sadly left off this list. :-(

[bigHEADinc]

See, I think the biggest loss Young Link has is the underpowered Sword Spin attack... Link's sword spin can easily send guys flying into oblivion, while Young Link's just merely combos it...

[Rocky Van Heineken]

Wasn't Sonic confirmed for this?

[gmanquik]

bigheadinc said:

See, I think the biggest loss Young Link has is the underpowered Sword Spin attack... Link's sword spin can easily send guys flying into oblivion, while Young Link's just merely combos it...

I like Young Link's Grass Cutter (sword spin) because it has the potential to cause lots of damage several times in a row, before you hit them with a Sword Plant/Downward Thrust and send them flying.

[bigHEADinc]

rockygotfingered said:

Wasn't Sonic confirmed for this?

We can only wish...

I get what you're saying though, Mauler... Then again, my play style is based a lot less on combos, it's more of the "stick-and-move" variety...

[forgottensinpwf]

rockygotfingered said:

Wasn't Sonic confirmed for this?

no.but there is a Sonic and Mario at the Olympic games slated for the end of the year.

[KevFalcön07]

I'm not getting this Trophy Assist thing.

Is Samurai Goro a fully playable character or not?

[-Lithium-]

My favorite person is Captian Falcon on the first one. If he had some projectile move, he would be the definite best in the first one. In the second one...eh I guess Samus since you can shoot someone with a missle, and if they block that, you can get them with the spirit bomb looking thing right after that most of the time.

I dont really like the second one that much. I mean yeah the adventure mode is cool and they added alot of cool stuff, but the most important thing is the gameplay, and its way too sped up in this one. Unno it just dont feel right. Also it really sucks that they made Foxs spaceship so small. In the first one that was the best cause it was all big and there was so much room. But in Melee is was as small as any other level.

They need to make a place that is just real big, but flat and with no additional things (like the spaceships coming in and shooting you in Foxs level), that be a cool level sometimes...

[gmanquik]

I think that there's a need for a few more 'large' levels, like Hyrule Temple. In Melee, that was it for big stages, as all of the others felt so cramped. It's pretty bad when the second largest stage is pretty much Final Destination. The others were either too small, or there was too much happening at once.

[Free Hat]

ravenm said:

My favorite person is Captian Falcon on the first one. If he had some projectile move, he would be the definite best in the first one. In the second one...eh I guess Samus since you can shoot someone with a missle, and if they block that, you can get them with the spirit bomb looking thing right after that most of the time.

I dont really like the second one that much. I mean yeah the adventure mode is cool and they added alot of cool stuff, but the most important thing is the gameplay, and its way too sped up in this one. Unno it just dont feel right. Also it really sucks that they made Foxs spaceship so small. In the first one that was the best cause it was all big and there was so much room. But in Melee is was as small as any other level.

They need to make a place that is just real big, but flat and with no additional things (like the spaceships coming in and shooting you in Foxs level), that be a cool level sometimes...

I had some trouble with the speed when I first played Melee, so I played a few slow motion battles in order to get the hang of the controls. It didn't take long to get used to.

As for the stages, Melee had Hyrule Temple, which I believe is larger than any stage in the original. I think I'm in the minority here, but I actually prefer the smaller stages. I usually find the larger ones to be uninteresting.

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bwo4lyfe said:

I'm not getting this Trophy Assist thing.

Is Samurai Goro a fully playable character or not?

Short answer, no.

Long answer:

Basicially, its like a pokeball-ish thing. You get the trophy and they show up to assist, then bail.

Its a cool idea, though their excuse was they're people that fans want in but they dont think would make good playable characters, or would imbalance the game.

Though I would think Samurai Goro would be pretty easy though, thats like saying you can't think of anything for Peach, ya know.

[gmanquik]

freehat said:

ravenm said:

My favorite person is Captian Falcon on the first one. If he had some projectile move, he would be the definite best in the first one. In the second one...eh I guess Samus since you can shoot someone with a missle, and if they block that, you can get them with the spirit bomb looking thing right after that most of the time.

I dont really like the second one that much. I mean yeah the adventure mode is cool and they added alot of cool stuff, but the most important thing is the gameplay, and its way too sped up in this one. Unno it just dont feel right. Also it really sucks that they made Foxs spaceship so small. In the first one that was the best cause it was all big and there was so much room. But in Melee is was as small as any other level.

They need to make a place that is just real big, but flat and with no additional things (like the spaceships coming in and shooting you in Foxs level), that be a cool level sometimes...

I had some trouble with the speed when I first played Melee, so I played a few slow motion battles in order to get the hang of the controls. It didn't take long to get used to.

As for the stages, Melee had Hyrule Temple, which I believe is larger than any stage in the original. I think I'm in the minority here, but I actually prefer the smaller stages. I usually find the larger ones to be uninteresting.

I liked the smaller stages too, but there were way too many of them. I also only recall a few having stage hazards, like the F-Zero tracks, Brinstar, and Superflat World. I would have liked to have three very large stages, three medium-sized levels, and the rest could be small. Also, the return of Saffron City. I'm glad they at least brought back the original Kongo Jungle and Yoshi's Story levels. Dream Land wasn't necessary.

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freehat said:

As for the stages, Melee had Hyrule Temple, which I believe is larger than any stage in the original. I think I'm in the minority here, but I actually prefer the smaller stages. I usually find the larger ones to be uninteresting.

I like the smaller stages too, but then when you get stuff like the Game and Watch world which is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too small. You can beat people easily by smashing them when they have about 50% damage.

I HATED Hyrule Temple, that place was too big for me, and the parts underground were a waste since no items ever appeared there and there was no way to beat anyone down there, all the real fights took place up top. If they would cut off the parts from the tunnel down and just had that top part that would rock.

As far as the new stages, Delfino Plaza looks to run alot like Mute City from Melee. Lylat cruise is alot like battlefield with extra obstacles (asteroid field, dogfights, etc). Battlefield is self explanatory, and the Yoshi's Island stage seems alot like a bigger version of the Yoshi's Island level from Melee.

Which reminds me, I need to edit the main post for stuff.

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Oh, and my top 5

5. Roy-Used to be my best, then kindof played around with others. Before my friends got good, I would rule with him. Then the speed setback became more and more apparent.

4. DK-Amazingly, he has moves that if you connect with can pretty much turn the battle around on a dime...provided your not doing some marathon session and are WAY behind already

3. Mario-Balanced, and awesome

2. Marth-Faster but weaker Roy, but like I said before, when speed became an apparent issue, this was quite the effective copout.

1. Dr. Mario-Longer cape, stronger attacks, just an all out more powerful version of Mario, and also not TOO slow either.

[King Fox -1017 Bricksquad]

Hers's my Top 5

5. Peach
4. Samus
3. Zelda/Sheik
2. Capt. Falcon
1. Look at my sig. Fox McCloud.