bigHEADinc
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Post by bigHEADinc on Nov 21, 2007 14:15:15 GMT -5
progressiveboink.com/archive/ robliefeld.html (Spaced for profanity) I was never big into comics but they make some good observations about a guy who, from the look of it, shouldn't have made it... So really, what is the deal with all the pouches?
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AFN: Judge Shred
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Nov 21, 2007 14:18:56 GMT -5
His Captain America with huge knockers will always haunt me.
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Libertine
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Post by Libertine on Nov 21, 2007 14:27:13 GMT -5
This guy really hammers his point home.
I'm shit at drawing anyway, so these all look good to me.
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Post by Dr. Marzvon Zombie M.D. on Nov 21, 2007 14:30:50 GMT -5
When i was in college i met the guy that got Rob his big break, to say he regreated it was as an understatement.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Nov 21, 2007 14:39:58 GMT -5
This guy really hammers his point home. I'm crap at drawing anyway, so these all look good to me. I can't either, but I know that Liefeld is the hack to end all hacks. He literally has NO clue, but he certainly knew how to make money in the bad old 90s. Money and pouches. If I met him, I would make him eat a pouch. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 21, 2007 14:56:26 GMT -5
The early nineties were a wacky weird time for comics, looking back at it with some perspective.
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bigHEADinc
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Post by bigHEADinc on Nov 21, 2007 14:58:38 GMT -5
You know the worst part about all of this?
While I was never really into comics, I loved collecting the trading cards (as I was obsessed with the X-Men cartoon).
The thing is, most of my artistic inspiration came from these cards, leading to a ton of over-muscled, over-veined, over-pouched superheroes that were just combinations of other Marvel characters. (Not entirely Liefeld's fault, but it seems like all the drawings were like that at the time)
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Post by maxx420 on Nov 21, 2007 15:00:30 GMT -5
You know the worst part about all of this? While I was never really into comics, I loved collecting the trading cards (as I was obsessed with the X-Men cartoon). The thing is, most of my artistic inspiration came from these cards, leading to a ton of over-muscled, over-veined, over-pouched superheroes that were just combinations of other Marvel characters. (Not entirely Liefeld's fault, but it seems like all the drawings were like that at the time) Jim Lee also seemed to have a fascination with pouches too... & when pouches were not an option, oversized boobs were a good alternative. |
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Post by Baixo Astral on Nov 21, 2007 15:01:17 GMT -5
Any superhero stuff that wasn't like that flopped at that time... and then those kinds of things started to flop too, when it became obviously that the collectors weren't going to make money off the polybagged, multiple-covered, gimmicked up CRAP that was being served up.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 21, 2007 15:05:13 GMT -5
One of my greatest shames, I bought Turok #1 with the full chromium cover for full price the week it came out. They'd slap holograms or die cut whatsit on any turd back then.
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bigHEADinc
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Post by bigHEADinc on Nov 21, 2007 15:08:37 GMT -5
One of my greatest shames, I bought Turok #1 with the full chromium cover for full price the week it came out. They'd slap holograms or die cut whatsit on any turd back then. I GOT THAT SAME ONE! This was at the time that Turok 2 was ready to come out for the N64 with the RAM Upgrade and I was at some local flea market when I saw the chromium cover just yelling at me. Staring at it, with the inexplicable price of $2.50, I assumed that with all the Turok mania, this has to be worth something soon. It was never even really worth the $2.50 I paid for it and is still in my basement somewhere. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 21, 2007 15:11:05 GMT -5
See two fiddy was a bargain. I think cover price was at least four bucks. Then I go to the shop the next week and see the quarter bin just loaded with our dinosaur huntin' native american.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Nov 21, 2007 15:12:44 GMT -5
One of my greatest shames, I bought Turok #1 with the full chromium cover for full price the week it came out. They'd slap holograms or die cut whatsit on any turd back then. I GOT THAT SAME ONE! This was at the time that Turok 2 was ready to come out for the N64 with the RAM Upgrade and I was at some local flea market when I saw the chromium cover just yelling at me. Staring at it, with the inexplicable price of $2.50, I assumed that with all the Turok mania, this has to be worth something soon. It was never even really worth the $2.50 I paid for it and is still in my basement somewhere. I have it, and i read it now and then. I just got it because he was a Dinosaur Hunter and the cover was pretty. |
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Post by Baixo Astral on Nov 21, 2007 15:14:10 GMT -5
Turok was Valiant comics, wasn't it? I think they overprinted on that by about 75%.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Nov 21, 2007 15:19:32 GMT -5
Turok was Valiant comics, wasn't it? I think they overprinted on that by about 75%. yes, and I would bet. I think Valiant did on every thing. I have Ninjax number 1. So pretty. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 21, 2007 15:21:03 GMT -5
Only Batman should be allowed to wear pouches, since he actually puts stuff in them. Even he should keep it to a minimum.
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Post by maxx420 on Nov 21, 2007 15:22:09 GMT -5
Turok was Valiant comics, wasn't it? I think they overprinted on that by about 75%. yes, and I would bet. I think Valiant did on every thing. I have Ninjax number 1. So pretty. What's the gimmicked cover? Die-cut foil? Hologram? Or were there just 26 variant covers?  |
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Post by Baixo Astral on Nov 21, 2007 15:23:48 GMT -5
There's a massive chronological gap in my comics collection - between roughly the end of Infinity Inc. and the start of the Morrison run on JLA I have the 1990s JSA series that ended with Zero Hour and their humbling for editorial reasons, and about 15 other comics... many of them chosen just to represent the lameness of the era, such as a couple of Teen Titans issues like the rape wedding.
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Post by DUTHTY on Nov 21, 2007 15:23:49 GMT -5
"A fun Liefeld drinking game: take a shot for every pouch he draws on a character. Oh great, now you have alcohol poisoning"
Gold.
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Post by erisi236 on Nov 21, 2007 15:24:17 GMT -5
I'm certain that Rob Liefeld personally set Marvel and DC comics back 10 years at least with this kind of wackyness. Everything in the 90's tried to emulate that wack-ass style of impossible poses, gigantic muscles and thin legs all bloted out with 15 layers of cross hatching, and it's all his fault. Theres reasons I switched to Dark Horse in the 90's and he's one of them.  |
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