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Post by BrianZane on May 26, 2007 14:48:00 GMT -5
I don't want this to turn into a racist thread (nor do I want people to say "They should just form a new NoD stable"), but I was just observing that, man, they're pushing a ton of black wrestlers these days. Like, more than I ever remember before. They've got...
Lashley Burke Cor Von MVP Henry
For a time, Booker was on that list, until he lost the title then went on injured reserve. And until they went into Heat obscurity, Cryme Tyme was being shown every week on Raw. (Remember, they still have that Tag Title opportunity...right?) What do you think brought on this sudden change in booking philosophy?
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Post by disposablegreg on May 26, 2007 14:50:21 GMT -5
what a racist thing to say
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Post by Jiren on May 26, 2007 14:51:23 GMT -5
1 of them don't belong
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Post by wwerules60 on May 26, 2007 14:52:09 GMT -5
I doubt it has anything to do with the colour of their skin. Burke, Cor Von, and MVP are all talented and Lashley is the "next big thing" in their mind. I still don't know why Henry continues to get pushes.
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Post by The F'N Captain on May 26, 2007 14:59:05 GMT -5
I don't want this to turn into a racist thread (nor do I want people to say "They should just form a new NoD stable"), but I was just observing that, man, they're pushing a ton of black wrestlers these days. Like, more than I ever remember before. They've got... Lashley Burke Cor Von MVP Henry For a time, Booker was on that list, until he lost the title then went on injured reserve. And until they went into Heat obscurity, Cryme Tyme was being shown every week on Raw. (Remember, they still have that Tag Title opportunity...right?) What do you think brought on this sudden change in booking philosophy? Well Cor Von is a popular guy from another company, as long as he keeps performing well they'll keep his push going. Burke got lucky that they saw something in him despite being aligned with the failed Sylvester Turkay character. Lashley was hand picked from the get go as the next big thing. They might as well give out a yearly "Lesnar Push" award for god's sake. MVP honestly came out of nowhere on me. No explanation on my end. I like em tho. Henry. Meh I won't be biased I'll say HONESTLY that I don't understand why he gets such big pushes.
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Post by King Fox -1017 Bricksquad on May 26, 2007 15:00:39 GMT -5
Its about damn time! We been held down for too long! Nah just kidding, but its nice to see African Americans not named The Rock get some sort of push.
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Post by odanobunaga on May 26, 2007 15:02:38 GMT -5
Is it mee or when I look at this guys, I see only great wrestlers(Minus Henry ) not "great black wrestlers". I don´t care about the color of the skin, I care more for the amazing show these gentleman put.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on May 26, 2007 15:08:12 GMT -5
I think it's a fair thing to point out. I mean, hell, the Rock was the first black WWF champion in 1998...then a whole lot of white champions, Eddie, Rey, and now after Booker's run Lashley became a player and MVP and Burke kinda popped up out of nowhere. It could be coincidence, but there also could be some kind of demographic/PR motive behind it. In the case of the latter, the reasoning would be interesting, at least.
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Post by disposablegreg on May 26, 2007 15:13:22 GMT -5
Is it mee or when I look at this guys, I see only great wrestlers(Minus Henry ) not "great black wrestlers". I don´t care about the color of the skin, I care more for the amazing show these gentleman put. I'm with you, I think people who see them as "Black wrestlers" are nothing more than adding to be racist and being a warmonger
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Post by bshadye413 on May 26, 2007 15:18:38 GMT -5
Is it mee or when I look at this guys, I see only great wrestlers(Minus Henry ) not "great black wrestlers". I don´t care about the color of the skin, I care more for the amazing show these gentleman put. im with you. thats a solid list of superstars that have a chance to be the core of WWE's talent for a long time
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Post by samachine on May 26, 2007 15:30:03 GMT -5
Is it mee or when I look at this guys, I see only great wrestlers(Minus Henry ) not "great black wrestlers". I don´t care about the color of the skin, I care more for the amazing show these gentleman put. I'm with you, I think people who see them as "Black wrestlers" are nothing more than adding to be racist and being a warmonger Right but the people who make all the posts saying 'They should make a new NoD' aren't? It's not racist at all, I really don't see how it is, that's like saying they got a lot of asian wrestlers recently or something, it's just a fact. No one's going to say everyone's the same, there's gonna be something to make a group different from others, the people who make it seem like people are being judgemental seem to be the ones having issues.
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Post by STMP on May 26, 2007 15:32:18 GMT -5
Pro-wrestling is changing and that is a good thing. For a long time, you had to be white to be a big draw. Just like you had to be a big muscular guy to make it to the top.
Those boundaries have been broken and the colour of someone's skin isn't a problem any more in getting over. Now a good wrestler can get over without pretending to be a savage (well, as long as you're not from Samoa).
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Post by NIXON on May 26, 2007 15:36:12 GMT -5
I'm with you, I think people who see them as "Black wrestlers" are nothing more than adding to be racist and being a warmonger Right but the people who make all the posts saying 'They should make a new NoD' aren't? It's not racist at all, I really don't see how it is, that's like saying they got a lot of asian wrestlers recently or something, it's just a fact. No one's going to say everyone's the same, there's gonna be something to make a group different from others, the people who make it seem like people are being judgemental seem to be the ones having issues. You dont need to bother arguing with this guy. He's just a troll who forgot to leave after one night like all the rest do. Either that, or he just tries way too hard. Either way though, he doesn't actually believe what he is saying, he is just trying to be controversial cause he needs attention. You've got mine buddy, so you can feel good about that.
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Post by Ridley on May 26, 2007 15:48:02 GMT -5
I doubt it has anything to do with the colour of their skin. Burke, Cor Von, and MVP are all talented and Lashley is the "next big thing" in their mind. I still don't know why Henry continues to get pushes. Is Henry still on that 10 year contract?
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Post by bshadye413 on May 26, 2007 16:01:25 GMT -5
I doubt it has anything to do with the colour of their skin. Burke, Cor Von, and MVP are all talented and Lashley is the "next big thing" in their mind. I still don't know why Henry continues to get pushes. Is Henry still on that 10 year contract? someone correct me if im wrong, but I believe that contract expired and they gave him a new one.
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Post by Ace Diamond on May 26, 2007 16:02:36 GMT -5
Is Henry still on that 10 year contract? someone correct me if im wrong, but I believe that contract expired and they gave him a new one. That is true. They re-signed him while he was still recovering from injuring himself by running full speed (1 MPH) into a turnbuckle pad.
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Post by Ridley on May 26, 2007 16:20:36 GMT -5
someone correct me if im wrong, but I believe that contract expired and they gave him a new one. That is true. They re-signed him while he was still recovering from injuring himself by running full speed (1 MPH) into a turnbuckle pad. In that case I still don't know why Henry continues to get pushes.
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Post by Ace Diamond on May 26, 2007 16:21:40 GMT -5
That is true. They re-signed him while he was still recovering from injuring himself by running full speed (1 MPH) into a turnbuckle pad. In that case I still don't know why Henry continues to get pushes. Believe me, nobody else does either.
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Post by Gillberg: 0-175 on May 26, 2007 19:10:31 GMT -5
The only time I notice they are black is when I turn on ECW and there's only black guys on. It's not a derrogitory statement or anything, but I think they are good wrestlers first and foremost, and only notice when it becomes apparently, like when they are the only ones on the show (which sometimes they are).
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2007 19:15:36 GMT -5
With these particular guys, the black doesn't really come into play.
Lashley is Lashley, he's got a huge look that makes him a natural to be pushed heavily.
Cor Von's got the look, and has proven himself elsewhere.
MVP and Burke are two newer guys great on the stick that can work a good match, and have that "aura" of a future star.
Henry has pictures of McMahon at Neverland Ranch.
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