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Post by The Line on May 19, 2007 17:37:02 GMT -5
Does it? Since WWE started implementing it, there really haven't been any less injuries(especially as of late), and actually have more than companies such as ROH and TNA.
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Post by Johnny on May 19, 2007 17:37:56 GMT -5
WWE runs more shows then any other company to, so you have to keep that in mind.
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Post by rrm15 on May 19, 2007 17:38:33 GMT -5
Not really. There have been just as many injuries in recent years.
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Post by thebudman2006 on May 19, 2007 17:39:00 GMT -5
Id say no it was actually alot better in 96 97.
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Post by leemir on May 19, 2007 17:39:17 GMT -5
It's the that schedule that causes them.
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Post by jcdenton on May 19, 2007 17:39:41 GMT -5
Unless there fighting on an airbed, 6 shows a week will put real stress on a body.
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Post by Edison taps to the ARMBAR! on May 19, 2007 17:40:00 GMT -5
That's why Vince tries to hire big, dumb guys. They are so damn slow and lazy that he thinks no one will ever move fast enough or hard enough to get injured. His logic is obv. flawed.
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Post by Harmonica on May 19, 2007 17:40:30 GMT -5
What I think is their is no such thing as safe style. It all depends on the wrestler executing the move obviously.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2007 17:54:59 GMT -5
I agree with the schedule arguement. It doesn't matter how the moves are done, 6 shows a week will tear your body apart. Hence the steriods...
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Post by KLRA on May 19, 2007 17:59:44 GMT -5
What I think is their is no such thing as safe style. It all depends on the wrestler executing the move obviously. Bingo.
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on May 19, 2007 18:00:50 GMT -5
Only one of the injuries is due to wear & tear (Helms). The rest are just freak accidents. Safe Style or no those things happen. Compared to 5-7 years ago, things are a lot better when people were constantly going down to injuries due to wear.
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Post by Agent P on May 19, 2007 18:03:02 GMT -5
Glacier used Hard and Soft Style (whatever the hell they were) and he got injured frequently.
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Post by Nuke is Good on May 19, 2007 18:09:51 GMT -5
It doesnt work, their work schedule makes them just as injury prone. And it makes matches a lot more boring in my opinion. When I watch any other fed it makes WWE matches look like they are in slow mo/80's pace.
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Post by volvic on May 19, 2007 18:16:15 GMT -5
It probably does help to a certain extent. But it's the schedule that's the killer. I do think the WWE would be in a worst state than they are now if they didn't have it. The WWE is not going to cut back on house shows.
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Post by Agent P on May 19, 2007 18:22:17 GMT -5
Back to being serious, before they switched to the current style was when you had 6 or 7 people needing spinal fusion surgery, so this is probably for the best
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Post by bobolebowski on May 19, 2007 18:24:23 GMT -5
nah i dont think it works i mean injuries are gonna happen but as of lately....it definitely has not worked i mean, undertaker, kennedy, lashley, shawn michaels, gregory helms, and others have gotten hurt so it doesnt really matter in my opinion
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Post by STMP on May 19, 2007 18:29:54 GMT -5
Most injuries happened with just regular moves. The high flying moves have barelly led to injuries in the WWE. The only recent on I can think of was Chavo's light concussion when Kidman landed on his head with his knees after an SSP.
UT has also never injured someone with the Thombstone piledriver, Owen did but executed it wrong.
Regular piledrivers also barelly lead to injuries and at times you can even see how safe they are done.
But a clotheline that is hit too hard, a powerbomb that is executed wrong (Sid with Pillman, D-Lo and Droz, Lesnar and Hardcore Bob), a punch that lands wrong and just making the wrong move. Vince's biggest injury came from when he tried to slide into the ring.
Safestyle is not necesary, the only advantage is that certain wrestlers who do high impact moves can lenghten their carreer when they wrestle safer. But that should be their own decision. If WWE wants to make sure that the wrestlers' body don't take that much punishment, they should cut down on the house shows and create an off season.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on May 19, 2007 18:45:06 GMT -5
I agree that the safe style isn't really preventing injuries, because I don't think it was those moves that were necessarily causing the problems. Like you guys have said, it's the constant scheduling and frequency of wrestling that is causing them. I mean right now most the guys on SmackDown are all injured!
Back in the 70's and 80's, piledrivers were very common. But the guys weren't wrestling 300 days a year or whatever, so you didnt see as much injury.
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Post by STMP on May 19, 2007 18:59:45 GMT -5
I agree that the safe style isn't really preventing injuries, because I don't think it was those moves that were necessarily causing the problems. Like you guys have said, it's the constant scheduling and frequency of wrestling that is causing them. I mean right now most the guys on SmackDown are all injured! Back in the 70's and 80's, piledrivers were very common. But the guys weren't wrestling 300 days a year or whatever, so you didnt see as much injury. Well, according to the old school wrestlers, the schedule was even worse. They would wrestle twice a day for example and in long matches. But the style was very mat based. Old school matches would be filled with body scissors, bear hugs, headlocks and end with a safe piledriver. Wrestlers barelly bumped, but would be stretched which didn't cause that many injuries but could hurt like hell. WWE doesn't have that many wrestlers who can wrestle a safe match, without boring the crowd. I think one of the few is William Regal, who is that typical old school mat based stretcher.
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on May 19, 2007 19:03:20 GMT -5
But the other thing is, old school guys would only take off if they were basically crippled. Many of them probably would have gotten neck surgery if that option were available to them.
If you take away safe style, Injuries would definitely go up due to wear & tear.
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