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Post by chunkylover53 on May 21, 2007 22:35:41 GMT -5
Considering that Tito frigging Santana is in the Hall of Fame, Owen certainly deserves to be in. Again, Tito Santana was also a major star during his prime. A former 2-time IC champion and a 3 time tag team champion. Anyway, alot of names who died have been thrown around for HOF induction. I've heard John Tenta as a possible HOF induction. The guy had some success in the early 90s in his fued with Hulk Hogan and was a tag team champion with Typhoon(AKA Tugboat and Shockmaster to crappers). After that, he was plauged with bad gimmicks in WCW and then became an odditie when he returned to the E. Don't get me wrong, he was a great guy, but lets not have our emotions get into the way of facts. I will considered him a few notches below Owen Hart. At least Owen Hart had considerble success.
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Post by JMA on May 21, 2007 22:36:10 GMT -5
The WWE Hall of Fame doesn't exactly have high standards. Many people inducted were far lesser wrestlers than Owen, and contributed less than he did. Therefore, it's logical to induct Owen. I'm sure Bret would be more than happy to induct his brother as well.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 21, 2007 22:43:28 GMT -5
Can't say since I haven't seen much of his stuff. I odn't know why not though. If they can put guys like SD Jones and Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame, then I don't know why Owen can't be in it. Uh, SD Jones isn't in the Hall of Fame.
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Post by Corporate H on May 21, 2007 22:54:05 GMT -5
I think much like Eddie he WOULD have been, but his career was cut short. I'm not a fan of sugar-coating somebodys death by putting them in the Hall of Fame which I believe they did to an extent by putting Eddie in the Hall so early. He would have gotten in regardless at that point in his career but it shouldn't have been so early. Now I think Owen may of done enough to warrent Hall of Fame status but in the end it's all about opinion really. They could put anyone they want in their if they want, hell they put Pete Rose in there.
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Post by ultimatekennedy on May 22, 2007 0:43:07 GMT -5
Can't say since I haven't seen much of his stuff. I odn't know why not though. If they can put guys like SD Jones and Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame, then I don't know why Owen can't be in it. Uh, SD Jones isn't in the Hall of Fame. My bad, SD Jones was at a HOF, but he inducted Tony Atlas. My mistake but I knew he was at a HOF. Okay so if WILLIAM PERRY can be in the HOF, then Owen Hart can be in it.
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Post by Jock Ass on May 22, 2007 2:31:21 GMT -5
Induct Owen yes, but when? Dunno. I feel the same way. Yes, "The King of Harts" will get his spot in there one day along side "The Hitman"; but to put an actual date on it I could not do.
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Post by Palatial Regalia on May 22, 2007 4:48:53 GMT -5
I get the impression that the death is still a very touchy subject for the company, and it would be hard to tip-toe around it. Of course it is, WWF was 100% responsible for his death. They asked him to do it and they failed to make it a safe stunt. If Owen was in WCW at the time he'd still be alive this day probably.
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on May 22, 2007 6:33:44 GMT -5
I can see Owen being inducted into the HOF, but not on his own merits sadly. The only way that I think Vince would handle Owen's induction is by having a special HOF induction that inducted "Fallen Heroes."
Owen's death caused a lot of hurt, upset and ill feeling not just between McMahon and the Harts, but between the WWF and the wrestling business as a whole, including the fans.
To induct Owen by himself, would mean that the WWE would have to stand in the spotlight, albeit briefly, while Owen's tragic passing was opened up again in some form.
However, if the E were to induct a whole group of wrestlers who "left us before their time" they could actually lose Owen within the mix, AND come out of the whole affair looking benevolent and sympathetic.
As to whether I personally think Owen should be in there; yes, definitely. He should be there if he had contributes anything more to the industry than any single named individual who is already in there. And as it stands, he contributed a whole lot more than a lot of the names already inducted.
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Post by Asics Johnson on May 22, 2007 9:41:02 GMT -5
I would say no usually, but hell, if The Fridge and Pete Rose are in there, why not? Hell, I bet the Brawler goes into the Hall one day.
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Post by erwxcalibur on May 22, 2007 9:49:53 GMT -5
it sounds like half the people that mark for owen now could never even talk when he was alive.
he was amazing on the mic, and decent in the ring... but theres probably 100 other guys the same or better.
he never was a featured guy in the business and was a midcarder at best. from what i hear he was a tremondous person, but everyone says that when you are dead.
i say let the hall of fame be based on in ring achievments only please. any owen induction would feel like exploitation.
EDIT : btw, i also think he was on his way out of the WWF at the prior to his death. I don't think reverting to the comedy blue blazer is the type of thing that they'd do for a push.
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Post by MetalGearDizzle on May 22, 2007 9:56:14 GMT -5
Kurt Cobain syndrome.
So No. *insert Tomko picture*
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Post by Mark4HBK on May 22, 2007 9:57:32 GMT -5
Owen's accomplishments (from Wikipedia): New Japan Pro WrestlingIWGP Junior Heavyweight Champion Stampede Wrestling
Stampede British Commonwealth Mid-Heavyweight Champion Two-time Stampede North American Heavyweight Champion Stampede International Tag Team Champion - with Ben Bassarab
United States Wrestling Association
USWA Unified World Heavyweight Champion
World Wrestling Federation
WWF European Champion Two-time WWF Intercontinental Champion Four-time WWF World Tag Team Champion - with Yokozuna (2), British Bulldog, and Jeff Jarrett WWF King of the Ring (1994)
Pro Wrestling IllustratedPWI Rookie of the Year award (1987) PWI Feud of the Year award (1994) - vs. Bret Hart PWI Editor's Award (1999) Ranked #66 of the 500 best singles wrestlers during the PWI Years. Ranked #84 of the best tag teams of the PWI Years - with Davey Boy Smith. Wrestling Observer Newsletter
Best Flying Wrestler award (1987 & 1988) 5 Star Match: vs. Bret Hart (WWF SummerSlam 1994, August 29, 1994: Steel Cage match) Feud of the Year award in 1997 - with Bret Hart, Jim Neidhart, Davey Boy Smith and Brian Pillman vs. Steve Austin
Yeah, I'd say he should be in there...
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Post by Mark4HBK on May 22, 2007 9:59:50 GMT -5
The only way that I think Vince would handle Owen's induction is by having a special HOF induction that inducted "Fallen Heroes." I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Would you mind rephrasing that...?"
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Post by erwxcalibur on May 22, 2007 10:01:12 GMT -5
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Post by Kae on May 22, 2007 10:45:00 GMT -5
My feeling is that Owen was on the brink of becoming main-event material when he tragically died. Triple H has said that Owen was originally meant to be the Game. Draw your own conclusions from that.
Additionally, I always felt Owen had the potential to be bigger than Bret. I always preferred him as a wrestler.
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Post by STMP on May 22, 2007 10:46:04 GMT -5
it sounds like half the people that mark for owen now could never even talk when he was alive. he was amazing on the mic, and decent in the ring... but theres probably 100 other guys the same or better. he never was a featured guy in the business and was a midcarder at best. from what i hear he was a tremondous person, but everyone says that when you are dead. i say let the hall of fame be based on in ring achievments only please. any owen induction would feel like exploitation. EDIT : btw, i also think he was on his way out of the WWF at the prior to his death. I don't think reverting to the comedy blue blazer is the type of thing that they'd do for a push. I started watching around late 1996 when he and Bulldog held the tag team title and had some good matches with mediocre talents. In 1997 he became part of the Hart Foundation, became IC champion and held the tag team title and feuded with Austin. After the Montreal Screwjob Owen came back as an uppermidcarder feuding with DX. Owen was overshadowed by Austin, but was an important part of the feud and he made Triple H look a lot more credible and gave him a boost to credible upper-midcarder. Owen also held the European title in 1998. In 1999, he had his tag team with Jeff Jarrett, once again a fun and good team. The Blue Blazer gimmick was stupid, but Owen made it work. So you're pretty much full of bullshit saying he never really did much. He has always been a part of the important angles.
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Post by iamthegamewjwf on May 22, 2007 10:48:32 GMT -5
Well I'd say yes regardless of the fact that he died in a WWE ring, but for that reason a lone he is a hall of famer.
to any argument towards Owen being in the Hall of Fame, I say this;
The HOF isnt exactly very tough to get into anymore. Look at some of the recent inductees; Bob Orton, Tony Atlas, the Fridge...and more who are arguable.
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Post by hbkjoec on May 22, 2007 11:30:36 GMT -5
My feeling is that Owen was on the brink of becoming main-event material when he tragically died. Triple H has said that Owen was originally meant to be the Game. Draw your own conclusions from that. Additionally, I always felt Owen had the potential to be bigger than Bret. I always preferred him as a wrestler. Sorry, but I'm gonna hafta disagree here. Owen was pretty much buried after Bret left. He had a short feud with DX, but that ended with HHH beating him down. Not only that, but Owen was doing some silly program with Jarrett and Debra at the time. There was no way that the WWF was going to put Owen in the main event. Just wasn't going to happen, not with the Ministry, Austin, Rock, Mankind, and DX to steal the spotlight. I think Owen should be inducted, but only because they induct everyone and their brother these days. Koko B. Ware will be inducted one day...
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Post by jaydriller on May 22, 2007 12:59:26 GMT -5
Bob Orton is in it
Seriously, the WWE HOF is a joke
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 22, 2007 13:07:51 GMT -5
I'll say the same thing I always do when there's debate about who's "worthy" for this hall of fame. Since there's zero criteria, and it's a made up distinction designed to be an honor for inductees only, of course they can put in whoever they want. It's not a legit hall, it's a 'thanks for the memories' thing.
So yeah.
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