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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 18, 2007 1:28:41 GMT -5
What's Morishima's style? I heard someone say Hansen like here, but can someone give me a few specifics? Damn, I ask a lot of questions.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Feb 18, 2007 1:30:01 GMT -5
Joe has some weight, but a lot of muscle underneath it, and he's still quick as a hiccup. Morishima is just plain out of shape. I disagree. Having extra bulk doesn't make you out of shape. He's exaclty like Joe...but Japanese, and he can move. To all, just watch the match I posted against Misawa. He drops the Old Man on his head! Morishima is a Kings Road product but a bit more modern. He's a bruiser and very legit at it. Everytime the discussion has come up in the last two years about a new GHC Champ, Morishima is the first name as he is the future of NOAH. He was supposed to dethrone Kobashi in 05, but got injured and they gave it to the undeserving Rikio instead. Once you get past the face, he's a badass. Pure badass. Oh yeah, he punches like Vader. Another plus.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 18, 2007 1:31:28 GMT -5
Joe has some weight, but a lot of muscle underneath it, and he's still quick as a hiccup. Morishima is just plain out of shape. I disagree. Having extra bulk doesn't make you out of shape. He's exaclty like Joe...but Japanese, and he can move. Just watch the match I posted against Misawa. Still, he could stand to lose a few pounds and maybe tone up a BIT. I mean, I like Joe as Joe is, and I'm not overly concerned about builds if a guy is good, but when MISAWA looks like Chris Masters next to you, there's a problem.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Feb 18, 2007 1:39:07 GMT -5
I disagree. Having extra bulk doesn't make you out of shape. He's exaclty like Joe...but Japanese, and he can move. Just watch the match I posted against Misawa. Still, he could stand to lose a few pounds and maybe tone up a BIT. I mean, I like Joe as Joe is, and I'm not overly concerned about builds if a guy is good, but when MISAWA looks like Chris Masters next to you, there's a problem. In a society were sumo wrestlers are looked at like godly creatures, having extra bulk doesn't hurt someone in Japan. He looks just like Hansen, Brody and Vader did and they were super over in Japan. Thank God Japan isn't like the WWE is that you must have a good body to be on TV. As long as he can be the ass kicker he is, a few extra pounds doesn't hurt, plus it makes him look more like a monster on TV.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 18, 2007 1:42:44 GMT -5
Still, he could stand to lose a few pounds and maybe tone up a BIT. I mean, I like Joe as Joe is, and I'm not overly concerned about builds if a guy is good, but when MISAWA looks like Chris Masters next to you, there's a problem. In a society were sumo wrestlers are looked at like godly creatures, having extra bulk doesn't hurt someone in Japan. He looks just like Hansen, Brody and Vader did and they were super over in Japan. Thank God Japan isn't like the WWE is that you must have a good body to be on TV. As long as he can be the ass kicker he is, a few extra pounds doesn't hurt, plus it makes him look more like a monster on TV. I'm just being picky concerning appearances. Vader and Hassan both looked like tough men. Morishima looks like the guy that owns the comics shop near my place and spends more time playing tabletop Warhammer 40k than he does working. That said, I liked what I saw in the Morishima/Misawa video. I guess I just don't want to hear the 'oh, look at THIS fat bastard, he's the ROH Champion, huh?' comments from my friends when I go over to watch RAW on Monday, because they love to take shots at my favorite promotion.
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 18, 2007 1:43:21 GMT -5
How did Morishima earn that world title shot essentially?
Is every fed associated with the GPWA going to be jobbed out to NOAH?
After all the waiting, and the fueds, and being the company's back bone. Homicide loses to a dude because he's bigger.
I don't get it, couldn't they at the least let somebody like Nigel win it because he's actually worked up to the point where a run as world champ is inevitable.
seriously wtf...
I know he's a big guy who does handspring elbows and topes and stuff, but let him build up. I guess it's ROH, they have a rep of just throwing the belts on people and hoping they get over, which is what happened with Joe, Aries (who really got over when he lost it), and Noble.
Morishima is not even in Vader's, Hansen's, or Brody's league of ever being a bad ass.
hE looks like a nerd, he's probably huge with the Otaku audience though, seriously he's not a big bruiser, he's just a fat version of Misawa.
He's nothing like Joe, except for being a fat guy who can move pretty quick, Joe's hair cut is way better.
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Post by Galluchadore on Feb 18, 2007 2:24:33 GMT -5
How did Morishima earn that world title shot essentially? Is every fed associated with the GPWA going to be jobbed out to NOAH? I don't think that is case. I know Gabe Sapolsky the ROH booker had been trying to get Morishma in ROH for a long time. I think this maybe a really good move as long as Morishma is in ROH for an extended period of time.
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Post by MGH on Feb 18, 2007 2:27:55 GMT -5
KENTA WILL be getting a title shot!
From PWI:
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Post by CM Drunk on Feb 18, 2007 2:30:58 GMT -5
Morishima may be a fat lumpy dude but the man can do a freaking cartwheel! A CARTWHEEL!!!
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Feb 18, 2007 2:32:49 GMT -5
KENTA WILL be getting a title shot! From PWI: IF succesful against Whitmer. HAH. I think were overestimating Whitmer's chances here. He takes three backdrop suplex, four T-Bone's and five lariats in Dayton.
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Feb 18, 2007 2:55:28 GMT -5
I think the GPWA thing is to blame.
A lot of people said that it would only end up with a bunch of promotions jobbing to Misawa and his wrestlers.
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Post by MGH on Feb 18, 2007 2:56:20 GMT -5
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Post by Boomaga on Feb 18, 2007 3:02:12 GMT -5
OK, actually BEING at the show tonight, I dont' know what all this "VERY Pro-Homicide" crowd crap is all about. First off, Homicide looked stale from when he first entered the ring, very little interesting stuff from him. Second, the fans were chanting Morshima's name much more and MUCH louder than Homicide. Finally, a solid 75% of the crowd were on their feet cheering for Morishima after he won the match, including me, and rightfully so because he's a big man with some devastating hard-hitting moves, REALLY good agility for a 300+ pounder and it was a great match and he carried most of it. I personally think, if they can keep him for more dates, Morishima and could make an excellent new face and credible WORLD Champion for ROH.
He can work very hard, has excellent power moves, great suplexes and he did a running carwheel into a clothesline that audibly made me yell "Holy sh*t!". Morishima made me a believer tonight, and I hope he does it many more times as ROH champ.
The only real strong cheers for Homicide came 10 minutes after he lost the match.
PS: All of this is despite the fact he looks like a 12 year-old Japanese girl's face on a 40-year old Japanese man's body. He kicks ass, and Homicide isn't that good.
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Post by Deamon Cohln on Feb 18, 2007 3:11:14 GMT -5
Just watched the Misawa v Morishima match...
yeah...that guy could probably kill me if he felt like it.
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 18, 2007 3:11:23 GMT -5
300 lbs of floppy man boobs
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Post by VeggieOverlord on Feb 18, 2007 3:22:24 GMT -5
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES OH GOD YES!
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Feb 18, 2007 7:01:49 GMT -5
You know I'm not one to care about a wrestler's look, and I usually disagree with those who do, but I just have to make an exception here.
I don't care how good he is. I really don't. The dude looks like a hissy fat 15 year old girl. It's the same problem I have with Low-Ki. Yeah, he may hit hard, he may put on great matches, yes he may be that good (and that's probably all that really matters), but I CANNOT take someone seriously if they don't have a good look. At least Joe looks somewhat normal and has some muscle to him underneath his jigglyness. This guy just looks like that fat bully in Kindergarden who jacks kid's puddings.
I know I don't follow ROH all that much, but it's no secret that Homicide worked HARD for that title, and after months and months of chasing Dragon and finally winning it, this seems really sucky. It may be due to TNA, but whatever, it just seems really shady.
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Post by STMP on Feb 18, 2007 7:16:31 GMT -5
I really don't like Morishima. The matches I've seen from him were alright, but nothing spectacular. And I know that the hard hitting style is popular in Japan, but he is no Kojima or my boi Tenzan.
I also don't see any Hansen or Vader in him. To me he is a new kid who is still green and needs to find his own place before he can even be considered bad ass.
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Feb 18, 2007 7:21:00 GMT -5
You're telling me this isn't badass?
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Post by Harmonica on Feb 18, 2007 9:14:30 GMT -5
he's just a fat version of Misawa. is that a bad thing?
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