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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 22, 2007 22:08:18 GMT -5
Everyone talks about how much TNA will improve once they get two hours, but I have a question.
Right now, a lot of the wrestlers enjoy working for TNA due to the relaxed schedule.
I mean, they tape two weeks in one night.
If they achieve their goal and get a two hour show...then what happens? Would they really tape four hours a night? Would they tape every week instead of every two weeks?
It just sounds like extra work would be presented...instantly. Therefore, wouldn't the people who enjoy working for them so they could relax...not be able to relax as much?
I mean, it could affect the mood of some people and, despite the obvious pluses, cause some problems for TNA.
Does anyone get where I am coming from?
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Post by Michael Coello on Feb 22, 2007 22:10:57 GMT -5
Yet, they should have done 4 hours last week for the special.......  |
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Feb 22, 2007 22:11:18 GMT -5
Dude, stop pointing out details!
It doesn't matter because TNA will beat WWE by March anyway.
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Post by Agent P on Feb 22, 2007 22:11:46 GMT -5
I do, but they also don't have to do 12 house shows a month, so it is still easier no matter what the taping schedule is.
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Post by hollywood on Feb 22, 2007 22:11:54 GMT -5
You have a point, but all reports I've seen give the impression that backstage morale is already pretty low anyway. I doubt a second hour would make much difference at this point.
Personally, I'm convinced that this "Promised Land" of a second hour will only be a disappointment with all their talk of how GREAT they'd be if they had it.
Besides, I doubt it's going to happen anytime soon. (I've been wrong before, though.)
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Feb 22, 2007 22:13:30 GMT -5
They tape 2 to 3 hours at a time now. If you tape 2 2 hour shows every two week it would really be now different than now. You still have a crap load of time off. The people who wrestle in hour one of the first show still have an hour to rest for the next show and the people in hour 2 also have an hour break.
The only problem I see would be the crowd staying pumped for 4 hours. You could always bring in a second crowd for the second taping though.
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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 22, 2007 22:14:45 GMT -5
Yet, they should have done 4 hours last week for the special....... I don't think that was what I was meaning. Although, they probably could have helped themselves with a live show on that Monday instead of a clip show. I was saying, if TNA gets regular Two-Hour Impacts, instantly doubling the work load, wouldn't some people who enjoy the relaxed work schedule get irritated or frustrated? Christian has mentioned many times how he loves the relaxed schedule. What would he do if he had to work every week instead of every two weeks. It doesn't sound like much, but you never know what will get on someones nerves. It only takes a thought of "We'll, I guess they lied to me." to start dissension in the ranks... |
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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 22, 2007 22:16:27 GMT -5
I do, but they also don't have to do 12 house shows a month, so it is still easier no matter what the taping schedule is. True, but that would take away revenue, unless they filmed at those house shows. Then again, it would cost money to move equipment to those house shows. Since I am majoring in Business (Accounting & Economics) I just wonder what is the best way for them to improve. |
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Post by Michael Coello on Feb 22, 2007 22:16:37 GMT -5
Yet, they should have done 4 hours last week for the special....... I don't think that was what I was meaning. Although, they probably could have helped themselves with a live show on that Monday instead of a clip show. I was saying, if TNA gets regular Two-Hour Impacts, instantly doubling the work load, wouldn't some people who enjoy the relaxed work schedule get irritated or frustrated? Christian has mentioned many times how he loves the relaxed schedule. What would he do if he had to work every week instead of every two weeks. It doesn't sound like much, but you never know what will get on someones nerves. It only takes a thought of "We'll, I guess they lied to me." to start dissension in the ranks... Well, while the extra 2 hours would make the tapings longer(and have a hard time to keep the audience pumped) it should be as bad with the 2-3 week break between the tapings. They just work harder on the one day. |
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Feb 22, 2007 22:17:00 GMT -5
5 times a month (4 iMPACTS! and a PPV) for a total of 60 times a year (say 100 if they add house shows) is still a hell of a lot less the 250+ shows a year.
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Post by hollywood on Feb 22, 2007 22:17:46 GMT -5
Yet, they should have done 4 hours last week for the special....... I don't think that was what I was meaning. Although, they probably could have helped themselves with a live show on that Monday instead of a clip show. I was saying, if TNA gets regular Two-Hour Impacts, instantly doubling the work load, wouldn't some people who enjoy the relaxed work schedule get irritated or frustrated? Christian has mentioned many times how he loves the relaxed schedule. What would he do if he had to work every week instead of every two weeks. It doesn't sound like much, but you never know what will get on someones nerves. It only takes a thought of "We'll, I guess they lied to me." to start dissension in the ranks... It's a concern, but I imagine every wrestler in the company knows the company's trying really hard to get that second hour. Christian knew that when he signed up. He really wouldn't have much right to complain. Crap...did I just defend TNA?? |
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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 22, 2007 22:23:27 GMT -5
5 times a month (4 iMPACTS! and a PPV) for a total of 60 times a year (say 100 if they add house shows) is still a hell of a lot less the 250+ shows a year. Well it is kind of hard to argue 250>100, but here I go. WWE wrestlers expect long-haul shifts. TNA promised a calmer schedule. Although it is obvious that they have to do what they can to make money, they'll look the increase their schedule (Longer shows or more house shows). While they may work less time, wrestlers were told they'd be working even less. People don't like to be lied to. It causes them to wonder what else they aren't being told. I don't think that was what I was meaning. Although, they probably could have helped themselves with a live show on that Monday instead of a clip show. I was saying, if TNA gets regular Two-Hour Impacts, instantly doubling the work load, wouldn't some people who enjoy the relaxed work schedule get irritated or frustrated? Christian has mentioned many times how he loves the relaxed schedule. What would he do if he had to work every week instead of every two weeks. It doesn't sound like much, but you never know what will get on someones nerves. It only takes a thought of "We'll, I guess they lied to me." to start dissension in the ranks... It's a concern, but I imagine every wrestler in the company knows the company's trying really hard to get that second hour. Christian knew that when he signed up. He really wouldn't have much right to complain. Crap...did I just defend TNA?? Well...Mission Accomplished. Of course they wouldn't have a right to complain...but that never stops people. ... No I wasn't making a jab at you... |
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Post by lildude8218 on Feb 22, 2007 22:27:39 GMT -5
"relaxed schedule" is an insider term for "not wrestling at all"
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Post by Michael Coello on Feb 22, 2007 22:29:21 GMT -5
Well it is kind of hard to argue 250>100, but here I go. WWE wrestlers expect long-haul shifts. TNA promised a calmer schedule. Although it is obvious that they have to do what they can to make money, they'll look the increase their schedule (Longer shows or more house shows). While they may work less time, wrestlers were told they'd be working even less. People don't like to be lied to. It causes them to wonder what else they aren't being told. According to a news site,I think WO, a lot of the wrestlers in the back were upset that they weren't actually wrestling more. Take that for what you will. |
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Post by hollywood on Feb 22, 2007 22:30:31 GMT -5
Well it is kind of hard to argue 250>100, but here I go. WWE wrestlers expect long-haul shifts. TNA promised a calmer schedule. Although it is obvious that they have to do what they can to make money, they'll look the increase their schedule (Longer shows or more house shows). While they may work less time, wrestlers were told they'd be working even less. People don't like to be lied to. It causes them to wonder what else they aren't being told. According to a news site,I think WO, a lot of the wrestlers in the back were upset that they weren't actually wrestling more. Take that for what you will. I believe the complaint was that they don't wrestle AT ALL. |
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Post by Ass Dan on Feb 22, 2007 22:32:17 GMT -5
They could tape a show on Monday and one on Tuesday.
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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 22, 2007 22:33:39 GMT -5
Well it is kind of hard to argue 250>100, but here I go. WWE wrestlers expect long-haul shifts. TNA promised a calmer schedule. Although it is obvious that they have to do what they can to make money, they'll look the increase their schedule (Longer shows or more house shows). While they may work less time, wrestlers were told they'd be working even less. People don't like to be lied to. It causes them to wonder what else they aren't being told. According to a news site,I think WO, a lot of the wrestlers in the back were upset that they weren't actually wrestling more. Take that for what you will. Well...maybe that is a good sign. However, were they meaning that wanted to wrestle more...or wrestle more on TV? I mean, do they want to entertain the fans, or go out there and be recognized. I realise that it can be both, but I wonder if there are some on both sides of that fence. Either way then, the extended Impact would be good for them...unless the "recognisers" wanted to also be winning on air. Last thing TNA needs is big egos moving in. it probably depends on who it is...my guess is the X-Division guys because, as much as I enjoy his character and his ability to still go after all these years, I don't see Sting clamoring for more wrestling time. |
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Post by hollywood on Feb 22, 2007 22:35:27 GMT -5
According to a news site,I think WO, a lot of the wrestlers in the back were upset that they weren't actually wrestling more. Take that for what you will. Well...maybe that is a good sign. However, were they meaning that wanted to wrestle more...or wrestle more on TV? I mean, do they want to entertain the fans, or go out there and be recognized. I realise that it can be both, but I wonder if there are some on both sides of that fence. Either way then, the extended Impact would be good for them. it probably depends on who it is...my guess is the X-Division guys because, as much as I enjoy his character and his ability to still go after all these years, I don't see Sting clamoring for more wrestling time. If I remember the report, it mostly dealt with the younger guys. It said that they really do love going out and really wrestling, and they don't feel like they can do that now. I think the best way to compare it would be ROH. They usually just work 2-3 shows a month, but I don't think I've ever heard of anyone on their roster feeling like they never get to wrestle. |
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Post by Mr. Backlund on Feb 22, 2007 22:36:38 GMT -5
I think the problems associated with going to two hours go much further beyond locker room morale.
I'd be more interested in what contractual obligations they'll have as far as increasing the workloads of the wrestlers. I'm unfamiliar with their contract structures, but I'm sure a few people have pay or incentives based on appearences. If you effectively double the workload, I'm curious if that means a lot of people are going to be seeing doubled salaries.
Additionally, what is the contract they have for the sound stage and all of the equipment and all the overhead costs you associate with running the shows.? Again, double those costs. When you're not making a profit to begin with, the increased costs associated with this move could prevent the organization from getting out of the red anytime soon.
So, your points have their merit, but it just doesn't stop at asking if its feasible to get the workers onboard.
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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 22, 2007 22:37:29 GMT -5
Well...maybe that is a good sign. However, were they meaning that wanted to wrestle more...or wrestle more on TV? I mean, do they want to entertain the fans, or go out there and be recognized. I realise that it can be both, but I wonder if there are some on both sides of that fence. Either way then, the extended Impact would be good for them. it probably depends on who it is...my guess is the X-Division guys because, as much as I enjoy his character and his ability to still go after all these years, I don't see Sting clamoring for more wrestling time. If I remember the report, it mostly dealt with the younger guys. It said that they really do love going out and really wrestling, and they don't feel like they can do that now. Well...okay then. I can see the two-hour show being an improvement for them. |
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