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Post by brianblaze on Mar 19, 2007 19:08:06 GMT -5
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Post by heffer111 on Mar 19, 2007 19:10:40 GMT -5
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Post by brianblaze on Mar 19, 2007 19:15:08 GMT -5
Well, as long as you're honest!
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Mar 19, 2007 19:15:53 GMT -5
i won't sign only because honestly, russo isn't the thing hurting tna. his reputation doesn't help, but anything that happens to any company is the problem of the people in charge. if a person is allowed to consistently and repeatedly hurt a companies buisness, that is the fault of the company, not the person making the mistakes. the company has the power, not the bookers, not the writers, not the talent. if they allow it to happen, they deserve the consequences.
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Post by leemir on Mar 19, 2007 19:17:29 GMT -5
I'm so sick of Russo, In wrestling you have to try to please all the different types of fans but Russo obliviously has no intention in pleasing the fans who enjoy good wrestling, he's says the fans want great wrestling are just greedy, this really pisses me off, he said in a shoot once if you want a good wrestling match go to a local highschool & watch highschool wrestling when what we is good PRO wrestling.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Mar 19, 2007 19:20:34 GMT -5
When I saw the thread title, I was hoping the first post would simply say, "Sucks." Instead, it is an online petition. Hmm....
Have these things ever[/u] worked?
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Post by infrared on Mar 19, 2007 19:21:47 GMT -5
You don't have to scapegoat Russo cuz he isn't the main factor in TNA's downfall. Thats like all of us blaming Paul Heyman for ECW's downfall and NOT Mr McMahon, his daughter Stephanie and the rest of the WWE Creative muppets, MUPPETS I SAY!!
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Mar 19, 2007 19:23:22 GMT -5
the problem is that everyone blames russo, and not blame the people that hired him.
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Post by DSR on Mar 19, 2007 19:23:37 GMT -5
When I saw the thread title, I was hoping the first post would simply say, "Sucks." Instead, it is an online petition. Hmm.... Have these things ever[/u] worked?[/quote] I think internet petitions work slightly less often than door-to-door petitions. And I can't think of a time either have done anything noteworthy.
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Post by brianblaze on Mar 19, 2007 19:25:01 GMT -5
Well, realistically, Heyman had little or no control over ECW, at least I hope he hadn't, because it was piss poor from day one.
Russo is just terrible. He has one of the greatest wrestling minds in the business (Cornette) to work with, and still everything he touches turns into a giant shit sandwich
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Post by leemir on Mar 19, 2007 19:26:55 GMT -5
I suppose it is wrong to blame just Russo, I'm pretty sick of TNA all together right now. The last PPV was crap, Christian & Joe was great & there was another 1 or 2 good matches but noway would I buy their PPV's, good thing I get 'em for free.
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Post by KB Klash is nWo 4 Life on Mar 19, 2007 19:30:59 GMT -5
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Post by antimcmahon on Mar 19, 2007 19:41:55 GMT -5
When I saw the thread title, I was hoping the first post would simply say, "Sucks." Instead, it is an online petition. Hmm.... Have these things ever[/u] worked?[/quote] Once, the WWE fired Blue Meanie in 99, and resighned him because of many online petitions. It's amazing how we have the power to bring back Blue Meanie, yet if fans are turned off by the current ECW product. Vince simply just doesn't runs shows in the territory any more, go figure. As for the High School gym comment, call me mental, but I actually took that as Russo putting over the great wrestling that takes place in high school gyms. Let's face it that's the only place you'll see these days that promotes wrestling that no one complains and moans about. All he's trying to say is that not all the masses enjoy just pure wrestling, and to some extent I agree. If it wasn't so, more of these "high school gym" promotions would be able to draw a big enough crowd to afford national television. I'm sorry it is that way, but it is. Now don't end my career on this board for saying all this, because I'm a huge ROH fan, but the fact of the matter is ROH type fans as many as there are, only make up a small portion of the number of wrestling fans. Not enough to keep a national tv show on the air.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Mar 19, 2007 19:53:54 GMT -5
You would of had me if it was a Fire Dutch Mantell petition.
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Post by hollywood on Mar 19, 2007 22:21:59 GMT -5
When I saw the thread title, I was hoping the first post would simply say, "Sucks." Instead, it is an online petition. Hmm.... Have these things ever[/u] worked?[/quote] Once, the WWE fired Blue Meanie in 99, and resighned him because of many online petitions. It's amazing how we have the power to bring back Blue Meanie, yet if fans are turned off by the current ECW product. Vince simply just doesn't runs shows in the territory any more, go figure. As for the High School gym comment, call me mental, but I actually took that as Russo putting over the great wrestling that takes place in high school gyms. Let's face it that's the only place you'll see these days that promotes wrestling that no one complains and moans about. All he's trying to say is that not all the masses enjoy just pure wrestling, and to some extent I agree. If it wasn't so, more of these "high school gym" promotions would be able to draw a big enough crowd to afford national television. I'm sorry it is that way, but it is. Now don't end my career on this board for saying all this, because I'm a huge ROH fan, but the fact of the matter is ROH type fans as many as there are, only make up a small portion of the number of wrestling fans. Not enough to keep a national tv show on the air.[/quote] I couldn't disagree with your defense of Vince Russo more, but it's still a respectful disagreement since you make good points and don't resort to petty name-calling (unlike an unfortunately vocal minority). While I agree with you that ROH will only appeal to a small niche audience, that doesn't mean TNA has to be its polar opposite. RAW, SmackDown, and especially ECW (oddly enough) feature a higher percentage of wrestling than iMPACT has. I still agree with Cornette. Wrestling's on the marquis, that's why people watch. It doesn't have to be back to back matches, but there should be more than just a squash and a couple DQs. It doesn't help that I just find Russo's gimmicks and storyline ideas ridiculous.
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Post by leemir on Mar 20, 2007 13:02:15 GMT -5
I think people underestimate the casual fans, just because they don't cry out for it doesn't mean they don't like it, they love great wrestling too. If you look at almost any 4 or 5 star match in WWE or WCW history the fans have always been in to it, appreciated it & made it that much better.
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Post by I Got Heat on Mar 20, 2007 13:46:48 GMT -5
WWE didn't bring back Meanie because of petitions, it was to avoid a lawsuit that Meanie was going to hit WWE with over the incident involving JBL. He pretty much even says himself that he knows that's the reason he was hired.
Oh, and ROH have some annoying fans.
P.S. When has Cornette made a lot of money as a booker? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmz? I can name when Russo has, but Cornette? Nobody ever answers this, they just mark for his shoot videos because he keeps saying things (s)marks want to hear. Cornette is a smart man, but Russo has drawn more money.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Mar 20, 2007 14:26:28 GMT -5
Haha, petitions don't work.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Mar 20, 2007 15:08:47 GMT -5
LOL, I dont know. I think a midget on a pole match with Samolian Joe would actually be funny! Like I always thought that when Eddie and Rey had that custody battle with Dominic, they should have had a Dominic on a Pole match. And Great Khali would have won it by interference, and therefore becomes Dominic's dad.
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Post by hollywood on Mar 20, 2007 15:18:15 GMT -5
WWE didn't bring back Meanie because of petitions, it was to avoid a lawsuit that Meanie was going to hit WWE with over the incident involving JBL. He pretty much even says himself that he knows that's the reason he was hired. Oh, and ROH have some annoying fans. Every wrestling promotion has its set of annoying fans. No single promotion is any worse than another. Some just have a stereotype they're known for. Cornette drew a decent amount of money for a while in SMW, not a fortune by any means, but he did okay for a while. Granted, the company eventually folded, but there was a time he was drawing in money. He also did very well in OVW until his departure, I believe. I doubt he was ever as wealthy as the McMahons, but I think he was pretty comfortable. Not to mention the healthy paycheck I'm sure he drew while working in WW(F)E, even though he wasn't booking. Just to answer that question. As for Russo, Russo made a healthy living as a creative guy in WW(F)E, but I don't think he was ever a head booker there. He probably drew a nice paycheck in WCW as booker until its demise, and the company literally LOST money while he was there. Granted, it was already losing money, but you brought it up. Now he's probably comfortable enough in TNA. Time will tell how he does there. At this point, I think both men have drawn comparable amounts of money. Since Cornette's mostly booked smaller promotions and Russo's only booked big promotions for a short time, it's hard to make a real comparison.
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